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Anybody buying on Demarco Murray? (1 Viewer)
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VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
As a Murray owner, I'd love him to stay with Dallas, but those teams you mentioned all have solid O's
AngryPatriot
Footballguy
Man, Dallas would be downright dumb to let Murray go... he's the main reason for their success on many levels...
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Good video but it is a bit confusing because the guy talking about Murray on the video is Mark Creigal (sp?) not Greg Cosell.
Shutdown Corner indicates Cosell wrote the accompanying article and gives a great breakdown.
James Daulton
Footballguy
No chance the Ravens sign him unless he comes at a bargain price.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
cowboys or colts. he is going to get an offer from many teams he will have choice of better teams than the jaguars. a chance to win a sb in indy with no sharing and a great qb is tempting for anyone.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Ed Werder says the Boys will counter any offer that RB DeMarco Murray receives in free agency. He also notes he wasn't close to being the top paid RB but was only the 23rd highest paid RB last year.
Also the Boys just re-upped WR Cole Beasley so I don't know how that impacts their cap.
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Ed Werder retweeted
NFL on ESPN @ESPNNFL · 2h 2 hours ago
DeMarco Murray's base salary was 23rd among all RBs last year. He's due to get a BIG upgrade
Ed Werder @Edwerderespn · 2h 2 hours ago
Sources expect DeMarco Murray to remain with #Cowboys if offer equal or similar to what he attracts as UFA. His salary ranked 23rd at RB
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Ed Werder retweeted
Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin · 2h 2 hours ago
Sources: The #Cowboys and WR Cole Beasley have agreed to terms on a 4-year deal worth $13.6M with $7M in guarantees and a $4M signing bonus.
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EDIT: to add a couple of tweets on the Cole Beasley signing. It actually SAVES cap charge.
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Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher · 58m 58 minutes ago
As the great @fishsports points out, the Cole Beasley deal saves $$$ for Dallas in 2015. This isn't a deal to freak out over, people.
Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher · 57m 57 minutes ago
Cole Beasley's salary in 2015: $1.66 million. Cole Beasley's salary in 2016: $3.34 million. Fair deal for both sides.
Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher · 56m 56 minutes ago
Cap charge. Should have clarified. RT @CowboysNation: @Marcus_Mosher Salary? Or cap hit?”
Also the Boys just re-upped WR Cole Beasley so I don't know how that impacts their cap.
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Ed Werder retweeted
NFL on ESPN @ESPNNFL · 2h 2 hours ago
DeMarco Murray's base salary was 23rd among all RBs last year. He's due to get a BIG upgrade
Ed Werder @Edwerderespn · 2h 2 hours ago
Sources expect DeMarco Murray to remain with #Cowboys if offer equal or similar to what he attracts as UFA. His salary ranked 23rd at RB
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Ed Werder retweeted
Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin · 2h 2 hours ago
Sources: The #Cowboys and WR Cole Beasley have agreed to terms on a 4-year deal worth $13.6M with $7M in guarantees and a $4M signing bonus.
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EDIT: to add a couple of tweets on the Cole Beasley signing. It actually SAVES cap charge.
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Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher · 58m 58 minutes ago
As the great @fishsports points out, the Cole Beasley deal saves $$$ for Dallas in 2015. This isn't a deal to freak out over, people.
Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher · 57m 57 minutes ago
Cole Beasley's salary in 2015: $1.66 million. Cole Beasley's salary in 2016: $3.34 million. Fair deal for both sides.
Marcus Mosher @Marcus_Mosher · 56m 56 minutes ago
Cap charge. Should have clarified. RT @CowboysNation: @Marcus_Mosher Salary? Or cap hit?”
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cstu
Footballguy
IMO the Cowboys are trying to make it look like they want Murray back but never intended to resign him. Now they can let him get a big offer and tell the fans "Well, we tried".
James Daulton
Footballguy
Why would any team pay big money for a RB these days? Makes no sense given the new dynamics of the league and the continued talent that comes out of college.
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cstu
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not sure why he wouldn't at this point? I have the opposite view of Cobb where he could do a 3 year contract with Green Bay for a little less money now but get an even bigger contract when he is 27/28 and has stayed productive.
Murray has 1 contract and about 2-4 years left in the tank
Cobb has 2 contracts and about 7-9 years left in the tank
Could he want a championship? Yes, but he also needs the same ballpark amount of money.
Okay just called them, yup they said they can thank one of the best defenses history for their success. Guess they believe they need to keep developing Wilson into a team leading QB as well to continue with success.
Teams that rely on stud RBs can only win when they have a top defense to go along with it. You know the last team to lead the league in rushing to win the Super Bowl? 1985 Chicago Bears
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not sure if you watched the playoffs, but Seattle gave up 28 to NE, 22 to GB even with a gimpy Rodgers GB kicking 5 FGs including not going for it at the goal line twice and 17 points to Carolina with a horrible INT thrown at Seattle's 10 yard line. Carolina had 362 yards, GB had 306 yards and NE had 377 yards.
Seattle has a great D, but the 1985 Bears gave up 10 total points and 181, 130 and 123 yards in 3 games. Not exactly similar in any way shape or form. Lynch was as big a difference maker in the playoffs as the defense was and in the GB game, he was the offense and overcame a horrific game by Wilson.
I agree with ghostguy that Seattle uses their model and would pay more for RBs to keep their model of success (pretty good the last two years) going. Minny did the same getting to the playoffs 2 years ago with a horrific D and Ponder as QB. Baltimore road Jamal Lewis' 3 100+ yard games in the playoffs of 2000 with Dilfer passing for less than 180 yards in every game. You mentioned 1985 Bears, same thing. Lots of teams have used dominant run games to do well. Emmitt Smith was just as valuable or more valuable than Aikman (career high of 3445 yards) during the 3 SBs in 4 years. It doesn't happen as much, but it has.
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jeaton6
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I don't buy it. It's a popular perspective amongst the media and fantasy circles, but I think Garrett is very bullish on Murray. If he believed it were all the line as much as many here and in the media do then he would have spread out the carries to keep those guys fresh. Even as much as reports came out that Murray was getting overworked though, he just couldn't bring himself to take the ball out of his hands. Even when that hand was broken and even when he couldn't hold onto the ball with those hands while leading the NFL in fumbles.
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VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
cowboys trying hard to lower his value
Florio compensating for missing out on the stories of the day by creating one. Nothing new.
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
Footballguy
The Cowboys need Murray. We rode him
Hard last year, but as long as healthy, he's the chain moved in this offense, and a damn good one. I don't believe Joseph Randle, a high round rookie or another FA RB fits the scheme and come close to the impact Murray will have.
He needs the Cowboys. Feature backs are a rarity in today's NFL, and with the offensive philosophy and line we have, he'd be silly to chase the money. If ther Cows come close, he'll be back. He knows his best shot at continued success (and $) is here.
Hard last year, but as long as healthy, he's the chain moved in this offense, and a damn good one. I don't believe Joseph Randle, a high round rookie or another FA RB fits the scheme and come close to the impact Murray will have.
He needs the Cowboys. Feature backs are a rarity in today's NFL, and with the offensive philosophy and line we have, he'd be silly to chase the money. If ther Cows come close, he'll be back. He knows his best shot at continued success (and $) is here.
When the Jones family devotes limited cap funds to retaining completely replaceable position players like Cole Beasley it becomes increasingly difficult to say "we tried, but Murray just wanted too much money." I don't get why management misses how important Murray is to the offense.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
Silver & Black
Footballguy
I'm sorry but why are we even reading about how the Cowboys basically feel Murray is a product of their awesome O-line. Really? Even if the Cowboys really believe that (which is silly by the way), why in the world come out and tell the world? Murray was a warrior and clearly carried that team last year when it needed to be carried. And that was often. I know, it's a business and all that, but to me, it just doesn't sit right. Much like the whole Cobb situation, I think Dallas would be better served to face it head on, do their best to keep him and if it doesn't work out, let him test the market. But if I'm Murray and I go and test that market, I'm not thinking of any type of home town discount. I think the Cowboys should shut up, get this guy signed and focus elsewhere.
Murray is gone. It's all about the benjamins for him at this point in his career. He had a phenominal year and will cash in on starving RB teams, most likely Indy.
With the silly money Buffalo just paid Shady and Ingram off the market, Murray becomes a high priced option the Boys can't afford.
Hate to see him go, but it's a "bidness". We got too many holes on defense we need to patch.
With the silly money Buffalo just paid Shady and Ingram off the market, Murray becomes a high priced option the Boys can't afford.
Hate to see him go, but it's a "bidness". We got too many holes on defense we need to patch.
That Charles Robinson guy from yahoo.com has been killing it during FA but he's backtracking a little from his tweet yesterday that Demarco returning to Dallas was a done deal. He is saying that the McCoy and Lynch extension are making things problematic, and if Demarco will have to take less to return to Dallas.
But I think he'll have to take less anyplace. Seattle gave Lynch that money because he's good, they went to and won SB's with him and it's not a long term deal. Buffalo just did one of the dumbest extensions I've ever seen and it's not the blueprint any other team is going to try and copy right now.
This Robinson guy did say last night the Jaguars were in on talks with Demarco. Not sure where they stand after reaching an agreement with Julius Thomas.
But I think he'll have to take less anyplace. Seattle gave Lynch that money because he's good, they went to and won SB's with him and it's not a long term deal. Buffalo just did one of the dumbest extensions I've ever seen and it's not the blueprint any other team is going to try and copy right now.
This Robinson guy did say last night the Jaguars were in on talks with Demarco. Not sure where they stand after reaching an agreement with Julius Thomas.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Jags should be able to overpay and land both Julius and Murray. Julius strikes me as a money chaser, but Demarco not as much.
Much like Cobb, I can see Murray stay in Dallas for less. But not a ton less.
And yeah, the Mccoy/Lynch deals were bad for Dallas here.
I think he'll take a lot less to stay in Dallas. Maybe not as much as Cobb in total dollars but a higher percentage. He's a star in Big D running behind arguably the best OL in the game. Been reading from various people this week that in general the Jags have to overpay FA's, for what Demarco would be leaving I'd say they'll have to overpay a lot.
But at this point I'm starting to think the Jags are going to make him a Godfather offer.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The one saving grace for Murray owners would be that Indy and Tenn are horrific run defenses.
Jax would start to be putting together a decent offense as well, so long as Bortles takes the next step.
Jax would start to be putting together a decent offense as well, so long as Bortles takes the next step.
Raider Nation
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cstu
Footballguy
A 27 year old RB needs to take the biggest payday he can get. He's looking at his last big contract.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
This is sure shaping up to be a nice offseason for my team that has Mccoy, Murray, Marshal, and Julius Thomas
