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St. Louis Rams: Oh Kenny, Come Out And Play-aaayy
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2014/9/19/6538357/st-louis-rams-kenny-britt
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2014/9/19/6538357/st-louis-rams-kenny-britt
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Sabertooth
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How does Britt actually look on the field? I don't have Game Rewind this year so I don't have the ability to look him up. How is his speed? How's his effort? Is it Britt or Bailey moving forward?
ROYALWITCHEESE
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Sabertooth
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Earlier in the year when I was watching tape on STL I noticed Britt constantly beating his man deep. I thought the fact that Davis missed him constantly (over the course of three or so games) would fix itself but that never happened and I stopped paying attention. Hill stepped in and took advantage of it almost immediately vs. one of the better secondaries in the league. I think it's quite possible it can continue and is most certainly worth keeping an eye on.
heh, i lucked into starting him dude to roster mismanagement leaving me with no budget to make moves.
he looked pretty good, it is a bit concerning that they didnt go to him in the 2nd half.
Bobbyn2022
Footballguy
Fools gold? Anyone a believer?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Not a believer just yet but he's on the radar.
The potential he's always had but never realized....there's a good amount of articles out there how he could help a new team. Understanding his past, I hope he doesn't think he deserves a high salary and creates a problem in this contract renegotiation.
The simple theory that he should be on an incentive laden deal still should be the goal.
The offseason, right now, is when he gets in trouble and acts like a dink. He has behaved and the Rams need to make sure that continues-bonus he shows up in shape, bonus he shows up to minicamp, idk that I'd mind if there was a bonus if he doesn't get arrested
He recently said something along the lines of he sees some trouble (drugs, parties, whatever) at Rutgers and doesn't visit because he wants to abstain from that. That's a perfect mindset...keep him on the straight and narrow.
The simple theory that he should be on an incentive laden deal still should be the goal.
The offseason, right now, is when he gets in trouble and acts like a dink. He has behaved and the Rams need to make sure that continues-bonus he shows up in shape, bonus he shows up to minicamp, idk that I'd mind if there was a bonus if he doesn't get arrested
He recently said something along the lines of he sees some trouble (drugs, parties, whatever) at Rutgers and doesn't visit because he wants to abstain from that. That's a perfect mindset...keep him on the straight and narrow.
If the Rams get Foles (This is one of those too perfect to be true scenario's IMO but still....if) and Bradford returns, I think their QB play goes wayyyy up and I might buy into Britt's potential again.
I am not touching him or Cook with a ten foot pole if they are ranked highly for FF or if their QB situation is a mess.
cstu
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Stinkin Ref
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considering Britt's past staying in STL was probably a good move for him at this point......he won't have to go to a new team, a new city, a new coach, a new staff, new teammates, etc......could be in for a solid year and represent decent value in redrafts....
Bob Magaw
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Considering where he was at career-wise this time last year, when he signed a contract with virtually nothing guaranteed if he had been cut before the season, and worth about $1 million to $1.3 million, he has more security (though still a one year contract, technically, if the Rams want to walk away after '15) and is making 3-4 X as much. It's relative, but '14 was a prove it contract success story, he re-established himself and could be an ascendant player again if Foles can be healthier than Bradford (shouldn't be too hard, a very low bar, but he did miss time all three seasons in PHI). Britt is still only 26? If he continues to play well and avoid off-field issues (maybe he has matured), he will see the second year of the contract, and maybe even realize some escalators, though not sure if any incentives in the likely to be earned category? Britt will than be in position for another contract in 2017 at 28. If he wasn't offered significantly more elsewhere, he stated that he had a comfort level with and respected Fisher, and wanted to continue to be a part of the organizational turnaround and win more for his former and current HC.
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17070/kenny-britts-return-to-rams-best-for-both-sides
May have been posted already, but just the business excerpt:
"It's always about how you fit and how you feel," Britt said in December. "I was never a person that would go out there and play the game for money. I go out there and play the game for the guys that line up next to me and the guy that is in there each and every day going to work for guys like Jeff Fisher and the coaching staff. That's somebody I want to go win a ring with because he deserves it and I want to be one of the guys that helps."
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17070/kenny-britts-return-to-rams-best-for-both-sides
May have been posted already, but just the business excerpt:
"It's always about how you fit and how you feel," Britt said in December. "I was never a person that would go out there and play the game for money. I go out there and play the game for the guys that line up next to me and the guy that is in there each and every day going to work for guys like Jeff Fisher and the coaching staff. That's somebody I want to go win a ring with because he deserves it and I want to be one of the guys that helps."
Coeur de Lion
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I'm cautiously optimistic again. He's stayed healthy. He hasn't been in trouble in a long time. He exceeded my expectations last year with dog vomit at QB, and Foles should certainly be better than Austin Davis and Shaun Hill. Actually, Foles is probably the best QB that he's ever played with. Britt will likely still be limited by the type of offense the Rams want to run, but IMO he's likely to lead the STL WRs in targets again, and could / should put up passable WR3 FF #s provided Foles stays on the field. I'll take that at this point.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
He didn't look like the same promising player pre-knee-injury at the end of his run in TEN.
Encouragingly, he flashed some of the old burst and explosiveness, and some semblance of that previously tantalizing form and athleticism for a big WR (listed 6'3" 223 lbs.). While his production was understandably muted for the reasons you noted, that was the #1 takeaway point for me (that and staying out of trouble) from Britt's 2014 image rehabilitating, career resurrection campaign, and was a reclamation project success story for the Rams. He is young. Once again, he has upside. We don't usually see such dramatically different up, down, pulling out of a nosedive and up again career trajectories. But America loves a second act.
Encouragingly, he flashed some of the old burst and explosiveness, and some semblance of that previously tantalizing form and athleticism for a big WR (listed 6'3" 223 lbs.). While his production was understandably muted for the reasons you noted, that was the #1 takeaway point for me (that and staying out of trouble) from Britt's 2014 image rehabilitating, career resurrection campaign, and was a reclamation project success story for the Rams. He is young. Once again, he has upside. We don't usually see such dramatically different up, down, pulling out of a nosedive and up again career trajectories. But America loves a second act.
The only problem is that Brian Quick looked better than Britt when they were both on the field.
AngryPatriot
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I think there's good to excellent upside here, if Foles can get it together and i think he will. Britt is poised to be a WR2 with upside. Foles is not afraid to chuck it.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
He never strung together a long period of greatness. There were tantalizing flashes before the knee injury (off to the best start of his career, one of the most productive WRs in the league at the time). He certainly didn't do much after in TEN and fell out of favor.Last year, he flashed downfield speed and explosiveness not seen since before the injury. He did lead the team in receiving, but that is kind of like being the coolest person at a Dungeons and Dragons convention. Hard to light it up with backups Hill and Davis at QB.
Because of the way it looks Fisher is building the offense (Gurley and four huge, massive, mauling run blocking OL in the 2015 draft), run first, and Foles will probably spread the ball around, also to Quick (if recovered from a shoulder injury - he outplayed Britt in the first 6 games), former Titan teammate Cook at TE (led team in receiving in 2013), Austin, Bailey might be involved, it will be hard for any WRs to put up big numbers.
* IF Britt develops chemistry and rapport with Foles, he could exceed expectations and have upside, because Foles should be an upgrade over Hill and Davis. If Gurley is as good as advertised, Britt could get more plays overall, sustained drives, red zone scoring opps, etc., and he does have good size (though Quick, Cook and Kendricks could also figure in the red zone, the latter led the team in receiving TDs last year). His size (6'3", 223 lbs.), with Quick, is an attribute that helps with run blocking, and another factor that makes him a good fit in a Fisher offense, and likely to see the field a lot as long as he is healthy. Though it seems like he has been in the league a while, he turns just 27 in 2015, and signed a two year extension in the off-season (second year not guaranteed).
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Fireinside
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Just got him in dynasty and being optimistic about his furure:
* Had his best year and started to look good and beyond injuries
* First time playing with decent QB
* Has coaching staffs trust as they didn't get any receivers in the draft
* Has potential and has not reached his ceiling, not even close IMO
* Rams are going to run a lot, but that does not mean they will not throw, so being #1 receiver in any NFL team is worth something especially when the team haven't had a QB like Foles before
* Still only turning 27 in September
* Had his best year and started to look good and beyond injuries
* First time playing with decent QB
* Has coaching staffs trust as they didn't get any receivers in the draft
* Has potential and has not reached his ceiling, not even close IMO
* Rams are going to run a lot, but that does not mean they will not throw, so being #1 receiver in any NFL team is worth something especially when the team haven't had a QB like Foles before
* Still only turning 27 in September
loose circuits
Footballguy
Criminally undervalued right now, agree with the poster above although Quick could be wr1 for Rams. His value should increase this season significantly. How many good games will it take?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I don't know fellas. How much upside can he really have with Jeff Fisher as the HC? He' not even rostered in my 12 team superflex.
The Philly game a long time ago, they played some of the worst defense ever and one or two CBs (CB and S?) were cut the next day. One of the rare times when your buddy says "I could play better than that" and he maybe could have played better than their DBs. Highlights are on youtube, if you look most plays he's wide open too open.
That was not his best game at all. I've watched him for years with the Titans and there is no way that was his best game. He had a few where I wanna say 7 catches for 100 yards and those were far better.
Like oh so many young WRs, he was done the second he faced up against a pretty good CB. Then it clicked and he worked to get open and he looked like he arrived.
A partial season with Moss and guess what he takes plays off and has a junk attitude. His practice work ethic isn't so great and the drops got more and more prevalent. He didn't run his routes all the way through if he wasn't getting it and Munchak or Fisher about chose to start nothing rather than have a guy dogging it. He responded with I'm great he's wrong and struggled, then he did put in the work one summer. He said the right things. Munchak is infamous for loving anyone that puts a high-level effort in and he was all complimentary. He didn't do well in game one and became sour. He got benched. Munchak did say if he put the work in he'd play again and he did. He made a lot of drops where he ran before he tucked it away and I think just too excited to prove himself.
He was a top WR out of college not a project type, but ready to go type. Fisher (and everyone in the NFL) knew Munchak is insistent on hard work and discipline and could easily read between the lines here. He felt the kid was worth another shot.
I haven't liked him for FF in several years and last year was hmmm. I will tell you this though. He's got confidence and knows he can do it now. You don't see Fisher all over him and you don't see articles of him dogging it but a guy on TV a little gassed on the sideline where he ran hard the previous play. Things are right with Britt.
The way I see it, if you are one of 100 zillion people that said he needed to get it together, well now it's time to re-evaluate him since he has done just that.
I don't think the Rams have another WR that can catch the ball while covered and earn the QBs confidence to make that throw. Foles is good for Britt and the little we get from OTAs has been favorable.
I think there's still people penalizing him for junk he did in TEN. It's foolish now. I realize this because I was one of these people. He's doing everything right now and is a top talent.
A Fisher offense will have less passing...not the run N shoot. Steve McNair played while Eddie George did. Fish will never be coach of a Saints or Packers type offense, but don't throw his O away like they're from 1950. They pass.
More often than not, wayyyy more often than not, a QB has a favorite target. When these teams look like they'll have 3-4 guys that are equally successful, the season usually ends with the favorite getting more passes than you figured in preseason.
Until Britt's ADP changes, he's an excellent pick.
I would waive him the second a "dogging it" article comes out but otherwise I'm pretty secure with it. The guy took 100 years to actually become a #1 WR in the league, but he did. He deserves some credit for that and probably some re-evaluation for FF.
That was not his best game at all. I've watched him for years with the Titans and there is no way that was his best game. He had a few where I wanna say 7 catches for 100 yards and those were far better.
Like oh so many young WRs, he was done the second he faced up against a pretty good CB. Then it clicked and he worked to get open and he looked like he arrived.
A partial season with Moss and guess what he takes plays off and has a junk attitude. His practice work ethic isn't so great and the drops got more and more prevalent. He didn't run his routes all the way through if he wasn't getting it and Munchak or Fisher about chose to start nothing rather than have a guy dogging it. He responded with I'm great he's wrong and struggled, then he did put in the work one summer. He said the right things. Munchak is infamous for loving anyone that puts a high-level effort in and he was all complimentary. He didn't do well in game one and became sour. He got benched. Munchak did say if he put the work in he'd play again and he did. He made a lot of drops where he ran before he tucked it away and I think just too excited to prove himself.
He was a top WR out of college not a project type, but ready to go type. Fisher (and everyone in the NFL) knew Munchak is insistent on hard work and discipline and could easily read between the lines here. He felt the kid was worth another shot.
I haven't liked him for FF in several years and last year was hmmm. I will tell you this though. He's got confidence and knows he can do it now. You don't see Fisher all over him and you don't see articles of him dogging it but a guy on TV a little gassed on the sideline where he ran hard the previous play. Things are right with Britt.
The way I see it, if you are one of 100 zillion people that said he needed to get it together, well now it's time to re-evaluate him since he has done just that.
I don't think the Rams have another WR that can catch the ball while covered and earn the QBs confidence to make that throw. Foles is good for Britt and the little we get from OTAs has been favorable.
I think there's still people penalizing him for junk he did in TEN. It's foolish now. I realize this because I was one of these people. He's doing everything right now and is a top talent.
A Fisher offense will have less passing...not the run N shoot. Steve McNair played while Eddie George did. Fish will never be coach of a Saints or Packers type offense, but don't throw his O away like they're from 1950. They pass.
More often than not, wayyyy more often than not, a QB has a favorite target. When these teams look like they'll have 3-4 guys that are equally successful, the season usually ends with the favorite getting more passes than you figured in preseason.
Until Britt's ADP changes, he's an excellent pick.
I would waive him the second a "dogging it" article comes out but otherwise I'm pretty secure with it. The guy took 100 years to actually become a #1 WR in the league, but he did. He deserves some credit for that and probably some re-evaluation for FF.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
When did he become a #1?
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
On pace for about 60 - 1000 - 5 -- I think it's reasonable to think he might maintain close to that pace.
