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*** Official 2012-13 Hot Stove Thread

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Immediately after the World Series

Eligible players become free agents

Sixth day after completion of World Series

First day that Major League and Minor League free agents may sign contracts with teams other than their former clubs

12th day after completion of World Series

Midnight ET, last date for a player to accept arbitration from former club

November 12, 2012

AL and NL Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Awards announced

November 13, 2012

AL and NL Managers of the Year announced

November 14, 2012

AL and NL Cy Young Award winners announced

November 15, 2012

AL and NL Most Valuable Players announced

November 15-19, 2012

World Baseball Classic Qualifier 3 in Panama City, Panama (Brazil, Colombia, Nicaragua, Panama)

November 15-18, 2012

World Baseball Classic Qualifier 4 in New Taipei City, Taiwan (Chinese Taipei, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand)

November 30, 2012

Midnight ET, last date to tender contracts

December 3-6, 2012

Baseball Winter Meetings, Nashville, Tenn.

December 6, 2012

Rule 5 Draft, Nashville, Tenn.

March 2-6, 2013

World Baseball Classic, First Round

Pool A - Fukuoka, Japan (Fukuoka Dome): Japan, Cuba, China, Qualifier TBD

March 2-5, 2013

World Baseball Classic, First Round

Pool B - Taichung, Taiwan (Intercontinental Stadium): Korea, Netherlands, Australia, Qualifier TBD

March 7-10, 2013

World Baseball Classic, First Round

Pool C - San Juan, Puerto Rico (Hiram Bithorn Stadium): Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Qualifier TBD

March 7-10, 2013

World Baseball Classic, First Round

Pool D - Phoenix, Ariz. (Chase Field & Salt River Fields at Talking Stick): United States, Mexico, Italy, Qualifier TBD

March 8-10, 2013

World Baseball Classic, Second Round

Pool 1 - Tokyo, Japan (Tokyo Dome)

March 12-16, 2013

World Baseball Classic, Second Round

Pool 2 - Miami, Fla. (Marlins Park)

March 17-19, 2013

World Baseball Classic, Championship Round

Finals - San Francisco, Calif. (AT&T Park)

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Notable transactions:

Toronto Blue Jays traded manager John Farrell and RHP David Carpenter to Boston Red Sox for Mike Aviles.

Arizona Diamondbacks traded CF Chris Young to Oakland Athletics for infielder Cliff Pennington and nonroster SS Yordy Cabrera.

Miami Marlins traded RHP Heath Bell to Arizona Diamondbacks for nonroster SS Yordy Cabrera.

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Potential Free Agent Position Players for 2013 (from Cot's Page)

The following players have contracts expiring or should have the six years of service necessary to become free agents after the 2012 season.

* denotes player whose current contract includes 2013 option.

First Basemen

Lance Berkman, STL

Jason Giambi, COL

Travis Hafner, CLE *

Eric Hinske, ATL

Aubrey Huff, SF *

Casey Kotchman, CLE

Adam LaRoche, WAS *

Carlos Lee, MIA

James Loney, BOS

Xavier Nady, SF

Mike Napoli, TEX

David Ortiz, BOS

Lyle Overbay, ATL

Carlos Pena, TB

Jim Thome, BAL

Ty Wigginton, PHI *

Second Basemen

Jeff Baker, ATL

Robinson Cano, NYY *

Mike Fontenot PHI

Orlando Hudson CWS *

Maicer Izturis, LAA

Kelly Johnson TOR

Adam Kennedy, LAD

Jeff Keppinger, TB

Jose Lopez, CWS

Freddy Sanchez, SF

Ryan Theriot, SF

Shortstops

Jason Bartlett, SD

Yuniesky Betancourt, KC

Ronny Cedeno, NYM

Stephen Drew, OAK *

Alex Gonzalez, MIL *

Cesar Izturis, WAS

Jhonny Peralta, DET *

Luis Rodriguez, SEA

Marco Scutaro, SF

Third Basemen

Geoff Blum, ARI

Miguel Cairo, CIN

Eric Chavez, NYY

Mark DeRosa, WAS

Brandon Inge, OAK *

Kevin Kouzmanoff, KC

Placido Polanco, PHI

Mark Reynolds, BAL *

Scott Rolen, CIN

David Wright, NYM *

Kevin Youkilis, CWS *

Catchers

Rod Barajas, PIT *

Henry Blanco, ARI *

Koyie Hill, TEX

Gerald Laird, DET

Russell Martin, NYY

Brian McCann, ATL *

Jose Molina, TB *

Mike Napoli, TEX

Wil Nieves, ARI

Miguel Olivo, SEA *

Ronny Paulino, BAL

A.J. Pierzynski, CWS

Humberto Quintero, MIL

David Ross, ATL

Carlos Ruiz, PHI *

Brian Schneider, PHI

Kelly Shoppach, NYM

Chris Snyder, HOU *

Yorvit Torrealba, MIL

Matt Treanor, MIL *

Outfielders

Bobby Abreu, LAD

Alfredo Amezaga, CHC

Rick Ankiel, WAS

Michael Bourn, ATL

Marlon Byrd, BOS

Melky Cabrera, SF

Johnny Damon, CLE

Matt Diaz, ATL

Kosuke Fukudome, NYY

Jonny Gomes, OAK

Curtis Granderson, NYY *

Scott Hairston, NYM

Josh Hamilton, TEX

Torii Hunter, LAA

Raul Ibanez, NYY

Reed Johnson, ATL

Andruw Jones, NYY

Ryan Ludwick, CIN *

Hideki Matsui, TB

Xavier Nady, SF

Angel Pagan, SF

Juan Pierre, PHI

Juan Rivera, LAD *

Cody Ross, BOS

Luke Scott, TB *

Grady Sizemore, CLE

Ryan Spilborghs, TEX

Ichiro Suzuki, NYY

Nick Swisher, NYY

B.J. Upton, TB

Shane Victorino, LAD

Reggie Willits, LAA

Delmon Young, DET

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Potential Free Agent Pitchers for 2013 (from Cot's Page)

The following players have contracts expiring or should have the six years of service necessary to become free agents after the 2012 season.

* denotes player whose current contract includes 2013 option.

Starters

Scott Baker, MIN *

Erik Bedard, PIT

Joe Blanton, LAD

Bartolo Colon, OAK

Aaron Cook, BOS

Kevin Correia, PIT

Jorge De La Rosa, COL *

Ryan Dempster, TEX

R.A. Dickey, NYM *

Scott Feldman, TEX *

Gavin Floyd, CWS *

Jeff Francis, COL

Freddy Garcia, NYY

Zack Greinke, LAA

Jeremy Guthrie, KC

Rich Harden, OAK

Dan Haren, LAA *

Roberto Hernandez, CLE*

Hisashi Iwakuma, SEA

Edwin Jackson, WAS

Hiroki Kuroda, NYY

Colby Lewis, TEX

Francisco Liriano, CWS

Kyle Lohse, STL

Derek Lowe, NYY

Paul Maholm, ATL *

Shaun Marcum, MIL

Jason Marquis, SD

Daisuke Matsuzaka, BOS

Brandon McCarthy, OAK

Kevin Millwood, SEA

Roy Oswalt, TEX

Carl Pavano, MIN

Jake Peavy, CWS *

Anibal Sanchez, DET

Jonathan Sanchez, COL

Ervin Santana, LAA *

Joe Saunders, BAL

James Shields, TB *

Carlos Villanueva, TOR

Chien-Ming Wang, WAS

Kip Wells, SD

Randy Wolf, BAL

Chris Young, NYM

Carlos Zambrano, MIA

Relievers

David Aardsma, NYY

Jeremy Accardo, OAK

Mike Adams, TEX

Jeremy Affeldt, SF

Luis Ayala, BAL

Grant Balfour, OAK *

Miguel Batista, ATL

Matt Belisle, COL

Rafael Betancourt, COL *

Jonathan Broxton, CIN

Taylor Buchholz, NYM

Sean Burnett, WAS *

Tim Byrdak, NYM

Shawn Camp, CHC

Matt Capps, MIN *

D.J. Carrasco, ATL

Randy Choate, LAD

Todd Coffey, LAD *

Jose Contreras, PHI *

Francisco Cordero, HOU

Juan Cruz, PIT

Octavio Dotel, DET

Chad Durbin, ATL

Kyle Farnsworth, TB

Pedro Feliciano, NYY *

Jason Frasor, TOR

Brian Fuentes, STL *

Mike Gonzalez, WAS

Sean Green, TEX

Kevin Gregg, BAL *

Jason Grilli, PIT

LaTroy Hawkins, LAA

Clay Hensley, SF

Livan Hernandez, MIL

J.P. Howell, TB

Hong-Chih Kuo, CHC

Casey Janssen, TOR

Bobby Jenks, BOS

Brandon League, LAD

Brad Lidge, WAS

Matt Lindstrom, ARI *

Mark Lowe, TEX

Brandon Lyon, TOR

Ryan Madson, CIN

Dustin McGowan, TOR

Guillermo Mota, SF

Peter Moylan, ATL

Brett Myers, CWS *

Pat Neshek, OAK

Will Ohman, CIN

Darren Oliver, TOR *

Juan Oviedo, MIA

Vicente Padilla, BOS

Brad Penny, SF

Joel Peralta, TB

J.J. Putz, ARI *

Chad Qualls, PIT

Ramon Ramirez, NYM

Jon Rauch, NYM

Francisco Rodriguez, MIL

Mariano Rivera, NYY

Fernando Rodney, TB

J.C. Romero, BAL

Takashi Saito, ARI

Joakim Soria, KC *

Rafael Soriano, NYY *

Hisanori Takahashi, PIT

Robinson Tejeda, CLE

Jose Valverde, DET

Jamey Wright, LAD

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Vegas pegs the Giants as odds on favorites to land Josh Hamilton (3-1).

Eephus, what say you? Is he worth nine figures to SF?

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:pinned:

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Jake Peavy signed with the White Sox for 2/$29M with a 2015 vesting option. Seems like a lot of money for a guy who until this year hadn't pitched a full season since the Bush administration.

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Dodgers resign Brandon League for three years. I hope they overpaid and I suspect they did.

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Dodgers resign Brandon League for three years. I hope they overpaid and I suspect they did.

Word is 7.5 mil perSo yes, yes they did

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Oh, and Trout didn't win a gold glove

American LeagueC: Matt Wieters, BAL (2nd award)1B: Mark Teixeira, NYY (5)2B: Robinson Cano, NYY (2)3B: Adrian Beltre, TEX (4)SS: J.J. Hardy, BAL (1)LF: Alex Gordon, KC (2)CF: Adam Jones, BAL (2)RF: Josh Reddick, OAK (1)P:National LeagueC: Yadier Molina, STL (5)1B: Adam LaRoche, WAS (1)2B: Darwin Barney, CHC (1)3B: Chase Headley, SD (1)SS: Jimmy Rollins, PHI (4)LF: Carlos Gonzalez, COL (2)CF: Andrew McCutchen, PIT (1)RF: Jason Heyward, ATL (1)

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Oh, and Trout didn't win a gold glove

That certainly bodes poorly for him winning the MVP.

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I believe Ludwick's option is already declined and he could be among the top of the backup plans for teams who miss on Hamilton. His option was only 5M and he can get WAY more than that on the open market.

Greinke is going to be after huge money.

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Oh, and Trout didn't win a gold glove

That certainly bodes poorly for him winning the MVP.
He shouldn't win it anyway.

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ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) — The Los Angeles Angels traded right-hander Ervin Santana to the Kansas City Royals on Wednesday for minor league reliever Brandon Sisk.The Angels exercised Santana's $13 million option for next season before trading the Dominican veteran and cash to the Royals."We're proud to have him, and he certainly fits with what we're doing in 2013," Royals general manager Dayton Moore said.Santana has been a fixture in Los Angeles' rotation since 2005, going 96-80 with a 4.33 ERA while starting at least 23 games in eight consecutive seasons. He has spent his entire career with the Angels, who signed him as a free agent in 2000 and nurtured his development into a solid starter of 96 games over the past three years.But Santana struggled for much of last season, going 9-13 with a 5.16 ERA while giving up a major league-worst 39 homers despite significant improvements over the final two months.

Looks like the Royals are going to increase their payroll next year. Santana isn't an ace but if he's on, he's better than anyone else the Royals have. If he's not on, he's Hochevarian.The Angels look to have saved $1M on the buyout of Santana's 2013 option. Sisk is a 27 year old LHP with no Major League experience.

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Hmm. If the Angels also lose Haren (option) it looks like they'll be making a run at keeping Greinke.

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Marmol for Haren's option is the rumor du jour

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Marmol for Haren's option is the rumor du jour

Apparently called off. Can anyone explain how this made sense from the Angels' perspective?

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Marmol for Haren's option is the rumor du jour

Apparently called off. Can anyone explain how this made sense from the Angels' perspective?
I was reading earlier that the Indians and the Angels were close on a Chris Perez for one of those spare OFers deal. Looks like they want a closer and it doesn't look like they want to keep Haren. Since the Rangers are hot after Grienke I would think the Angels for more than just the obvious reason of Grienke's great skill, really want to keep him.

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Marmol for Haren's option is the rumor du jour

Apparently called off. Can anyone explain how this made sense from the Angels' perspective?
Beats me. I know they need some bullpen help. It's definitely one of their biggest areas of weakness. Maybe they felt Marmol is worth gambling on. Iirc he was pretty good in the second half of last season.

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Marmol for Haren's option is the rumor du jour

Apparently called off. Can anyone explain how this made sense from the Angels' perspective?
Beats me. I know they need some bullpen help. It's definitely one of their biggest areas of weakness. Maybe they felt Marmol is worth gambling on. Iirc he was pretty good in the second half of last season.
Then again, maybe they saw Marmol's walk rate and ran away screaming.According to Twitter, Marmol was pretty shocked about the reported trade when he was on Dominican radio last night. But, not only did the trade get called off, but the other team thought it was a BETTER idea to just cut the guy going the other way. That can't do much for confidence.

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Mets buy out Jason Bay's contract. Now a FA.

Guy had an OPS of .921 just 3 years ago. What happened?

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Mets buy out Jason Bay's contract. Now a FA.

Somebody is eating $21M

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Mets buy out Jason Bay's contract. Now a FA.

Somebody is eating $21M
Hayman reporting it's been deferred, big time. Like $1M/yr. for 20 years or so.

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Mets buy out Jason Bay's contract. Now a FA.

Guy had an OPS of .921 just 3 years ago. What happened?
Citi Field happened.

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Mets buy out Jason Bay's contract. Now a FA.

Somebody is eating $21M
Hayman reporting it's been deferred, big time. Like $1M/yr. for 20 years or so.
The new Bobby Bonilla.Bonilla's buyout assumed an 8% annual interest rate for the deferred payments. If you do the math for the $19M remaining on Bay's deal (the $21M number included pro-rated bonuses), a 20 year payoff and the same AIR as Bonilla, he's looking at $88.5M

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San Diego Padres catcher Yasmani Grandal has been suspended 50 games because of a positive test for testosterone.The commissioner's office announced the drug penalty on Wednesday. The ban will take effect at the start of next season.

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Mets buy out Jason Bay's contract. Now a FA.

Guy had an OPS of .921 just 3 years ago. What happened?
roids are a hell of a drug

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JUpton on the market again?

so is Bauer. two guys with attitude problems supposedly.

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The Orioles didn’t hit much in the ALDS against the Yankees, so they’re apparently looking to upgrade their offense in a big way.Baltimore is targeting free agent Josh Hamilton to play left field and give the team a big bat in the middle of the order, according to FoxSports.com. Hamilton, who hit .285 with 43 home runs and 128 RBIs this season with the Rangers, is the top position player available.Hamilton's prowess at the plate is not in doubt, but he has a ton of red flags, including his injury history and past substance abuse problems. At 31, Hamilton also might not get a long-term contract.Baseball Prospectus has reported that Hamilton will ask for a seven-year, $175 million contract. That might be unlikely for the Orioles, who had a payroll less than $85 million this season.

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Jays sign Maicer Izturis. 3 years, 10 mil total (per Jon Heyman).

Edit: Jays also get Jeremy Jeffress from Royals for cash considerations.

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Baseball Prospectus has reported that Hamilton will ask for a seven-year, $175 million contract.

Good luck with that Josh. :lmao: :lmao:

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Baseball Prospectus has reported that Hamilton will ask for a seven-year, $175 million contract.

Good luck with that Josh. :lmao: :lmao:
It sounds comical indeed, but I'll bet you some team feels enough pressure to come pretty close.

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Baseball Prospectus has reported that Hamilton will ask for a seven-year, $175 million contract.

Good luck with that Josh. :lmao: :lmao:
It sounds comical indeed, but I'll bet you some team feels enough pressure to come pretty close.
He may not get the years but I think the $25M/yr. is pretty close

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Baseball Prospectus has reported that Hamilton will ask for a seven-year, $175 million contract.

Good luck with that Josh. :lmao: :lmao:
It sounds comical indeed, but I'll bet you some team feels enough pressure to come pretty close.
He may not get the years but I think the $25M/yr. is pretty close
I can buy that, but I can't see a team going 25 million for more than 4 or 5 years.

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Ill predit Os sign Josh for 5yrs/125m

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Jays sign Maicer Izturis. 3 years, 10 mil total (per Jon Heyman).Edit: Jays also get Jeremy Jeffress from Royals for cash considerations.

Curious that Toronto would shuffle Aviles in and out and then turn right around and sign Izturis. 3/$10M is a lot for a utilityman so I assume Escobar will be dealt. I think Izturis is best defensively at 2B, so that would put Hechavarria at SS. Does he have the glove to play there every day?Jeffress has a great arm but I don't think he'll ever get his command together. He's a lottery ticket at this point.

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