Mr Non Sequitur, on 08 Jun 2013 - 16:34, said:
Insein, on 08 Jun 2013 - 16:29, said:Because he's a former #1 overall pick that has had 2 $100mil contracts in his lifetime that doesn't recognize the situation that he is in. The coach has said it will be a competition from day 1. Unlike Andy Reid, Kelly has done everything he's said so far. So when he says its a competition, then it is. That's why Foles and Vick have been splitting the snaps pretty evenly. Vick thinks that he is the starter based on his past accomplishments when Kelly has stated otherwise so far. Nothing so far has placed Foles or Vick above one or the other. They are pretty even. If that stays that way through the mini camps and into training camp, I can't see why they would keep Vick on. If he's here week 1, he gets a sizable roster bonus. So if he's no better than Foles, I think Kelly parts ways.
That's a fair post. It would seem you also feel Reid was a debacle his last 2 years. And with that said and what you wrote, I think Vick is smart to press this action now. He can land on another team and still be in line to start by the time the season rolls on. In this thread it would seem some folks feel he needs to file his retirement papers now.
I'm not sure why you're bringing Andy Reid into this.
It's really simple, who was at the controls during the 18 month debacle of summer 2011 thru the 2012 season? It seems most of the posters in here point to that 2 year stint and hold Vick accountable for all of it and forget all the other years Vick has logged in the NFL.
I am of the mind set that Reid had no business coaching the team last year, his press conferences and interactions with the media seem like a man who was not connected to what was actually happening. I also think Vick had just about the worst OL at times and he has missed a lot of time the last 2 seasons as well. The OL is a lot better this year IMO, maybe the Eagles are not going to win a lot of games, I'm not super high on Kelly after he said no and then eventually agreed to coach.
But I think Vick is better than Foles and better than several other starting QBs in the NFL, I would not say that about Foles. Vick has proven he can win in the NFL, he's proven he can do some sick damage in the right system, he was the 1st QB to win a road playoff game in Green Bay, and he is 32/33 years old. Qbs are playing until they are in their late 30s these days. Vick can play another 3-4 years in this league, he is still the fastest QB in the NFL. More teams are turning towards a read option, pistol, Vick is suited for those types of offenses.
It just seems like Philly supporters want him gone and I'm not sure the team will be better with Foles. I can start to understand why Vick is wanting them to make a decision because if he sin't gonna be in Philly then he needs to find a new home quickly.