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Dwayne Allen (IND) (1 Viewer)
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jurb26
Footballguy
His combine weight was not his playing weight. It pretty much isn't for any player.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
@StampedeBlue: Colts rule Dwayne Allen, Greg Toler, and Darius Butler out for game versus Titans http://t.co/hX9RmlYoc2http://t.co/U5A9shLfyH
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Anyone like Allen this year as a sleeper TE? He is one of my favorites.
Fleener is getting a ton of attention going to the Saints, but this also opens up a lot of opportunity for Allen being the only TE in Indy now. Chud loves targeting TE's in his offense, and I could see Allen getting a ton of redzone looks this year.
Fleener is getting a ton of attention going to the Saints, but this also opens up a lot of opportunity for Allen being the only TE in Indy now. Chud loves targeting TE's in his offense, and I could see Allen getting a ton of redzone looks this year.
Markus P Dub
Footballguy
Too much yoga? Dwayne Allen sat out practice Monday with "hip soreness."
We Tigers
Footballguy
I love him at his current price. Don't love seeing stories about "hip soreness" given that he missed almost his whole rookie year with a hip issue, of course. But let's go back to 2014, when Allen and Fleener combined for a whopping 16 TDs, and the tight end group for the Colts received over 160 targets. The ceiling for an Andrew Luck TE is very, very high.
If he stays healthy, I think he'll have a hard time not racking up 60/700 and half a dozen TDs, with potential for lots more. He's going to block a lot, but he's also going to be on the field all the time. Good opportunity, low cost, great QB. Sign me up.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yep, that isn't going to change. I believe the OL will be better than last year but the Colts will ask Allen to block a lot. The main focus of the passing game will be Hilton, Moncrief, and Dorsett.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
That's a good point about him blocking more due to the weak o-line. Wonder if there are numbers showing how often the Colts had their TE's in to block last year? I'd assume it'd be pretty similar to this season.
We Tigers
Footballguy
Here's a piece at The Fake Football that does some of that. The short summary: in 2015, Allen ran 204 routes and blocked on 78 pass attempts. In 2014, he ran 383 pass routes and blocked on 85 pass attempts. Fleener ran way more routes and blocked way less, but Allen was still more effective per route run, per target, and per reception.
They (and I) expect Allen to pick up quite a few of Fleener's ~500 pass routes this year. More volume for Dorsett and Moncrief is likely, too, but Jack Doyle definitely isn't going to hog TE targets.
They (and I) expect Allen to pick up quite a few of Fleener's ~500 pass routes this year. More volume for Dorsett and Moncrief is likely, too, but Jack Doyle definitely isn't going to hog TE targets.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It seems to me the combo of Fleener leaving and Chud calling the plays and Luck's proclivity for using the TE since college days seems like a natural situation for opportunity for Allen.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
That is a pretty good point about Chud as the OC. Fleener's departure does open a ton of TE pass routes.
So long as he can stay healthy, that is a big question, he is poised for a high volume of targets.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Is he a good blocker? Cuz their oline sucks. So he might be helping alot
We Tigers
Footballguy
The block rates above should tell you a bit of how the Colts perceive him. The past two seasons, he's pass-blocked at a higher rate than most top fantasy TEs. Many pure receiving TEs are closer to 85%+. However, the Colts had Fleener for that. Particularly with Chudzinski on board, they're not just going to take the TE out of the offense now that Fleener's gone.
If the line is bad all year, Allen will probably still block on 20-25% of pass routes--but because he's their true franchise TE now, he's probably going to get to run a ton of routes on increased volume/usage anyway. If someone really wants to chase down advanced stats, see if you can find the percentage of TE routes run in a 3WR/1TE set. The past two years, I believe Fleener often got those TE snaps because 1) Allen missed a bunch of games, and 2) he's a faster/more dynamic receiver. If Allen's healthy, though, there's no reason he won't see 85-90% of the single-TE snaps available.
This all adds up to why I'm confident he can get to 100 targets this year, with tons of TD upside as the biggest and strongest receiver on the team.
If the line is bad all year, Allen will probably still block on 20-25% of pass routes--but because he's their true franchise TE now, he's probably going to get to run a ton of routes on increased volume/usage anyway. If someone really wants to chase down advanced stats, see if you can find the percentage of TE routes run in a 3WR/1TE set. The past two years, I believe Fleener often got those TE snaps because 1) Allen missed a bunch of games, and 2) he's a faster/more dynamic receiver. If Allen's healthy, though, there's no reason he won't see 85-90% of the single-TE snaps available.
This all adds up to why I'm confident he can get to 100 targets this year, with tons of TD upside as the biggest and strongest receiver on the team.
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Bucsfan5493
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https://twitter.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/764959084059717632
^chart showing how TE's have fared in Chud's offense.
'Over his last six seasons as OC, Rob Chudzinski's TE1 has averaged 10.94 fantasy points per game.'
^chart showing how TE's have fared in Chud's offense.
'Over his last six seasons as OC, Rob Chudzinski's TE1 has averaged 10.94 fantasy points per game.'
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Eh well I think you also have to take into account Winslow getting hurt in 08, 2011 Cam as a rookie focused on SSmith & Olsen splitting time with Shockey (combined they were 150/82/995/9), and then Chud only took over the Indy offense last year end of season. I think Winslow 07, Olsen 12 and Cameron 13 all fairly qualify as 3 separate TEs having breakout seasons under Chud. I also think that Olsen 2012 season where he was freed of splitting time with Shockey makes for an interesting comp.
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Bucsfan5493
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Yep, was gonna say this. I like the Colts current situation much more than the 2008 Browns and 2011 Panthers.
Bucsfan5493
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dnurk
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Anybody rolling with D Allen today at home vs San Diego? moncrief is banged up and the Chargers excellent CBs may be able to take away TY Hilton.
I have got to believe Allen will get at least 7-8 targets and a few of those will be red zone looks.
Thinking of starting him over Pitta this week despite Pittas huge week 2 performance
What are the rest of the Allen owners doing this week?
I have got to believe Allen will get at least 7-8 targets and a few of those will be red zone looks.
Thinking of starting him over Pitta this week despite Pittas huge week 2 performance
What are the rest of the Allen owners doing this week?
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
I'm starting Allen pretty confidently in 2 leagues. Starting him over Kelce and Hunter Henry. Chargers struggle against TE's and I think Moncrief being out will only help him.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Not really confident in any TE's this year? All a crapshoot it seems. I have flopped back n' forth with Allen and Pitta. Allen back in over Pitta as of now.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I like dallen. But this doyle guy keeps stealing his opportunity. Expect more of the same
bigmarc27
Footballguy
dnurk
Footballguy
Yep...the number of targets that Jack Doyle is getting is definitely cause for some concern. But I think there will be plenty of Te targets to go around today. At least that's my hope
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Cut for Rudolph/Pitta.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
To the Pats seems like a great move for both parties.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Allen is a must sit tonight, right? Zero receptions and six targets (& I believe he had zero catches in PS.) There was a Boston Herald article back in late August that said he has been struggling with learning their offensive system since OTAs.
trader jake
Footballguy
Cutable in (almost) all formats. The last veteran addition to go down this path in New England was Chad Ochocinco. If owners have any reasonable options, it's time to move on.
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
In my 12 team, 2 TE league there was nothing left, and I had Gronk. I scrambled to pick up Dwayne Allen, thinking I was going to get 2016 Martellus Bennett production when Gronk was out, instead I got a #### sandwich.
