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I'm wondering if Seastrunk will look at this weak RB class and decide to try his luck despite his lack of experience.I think he would have a chance of being the first RB drafted in April. And those former 5 star prospects usually have inflated egos, meaning he's probably eager to jump to the next level.

I don't get your love for this kid. Yes he was a big time prospect, but he hasn't shown anything close to being even a day 3 pick this season.
LOL. How about averaging 138.6 rushing yards per game at 8.05 YPC since becoming the starter?
5 games = 1st round pick for you :rolleyes:

1) He plays in a super spread offense(Outside WRs are literally 4 yards from the sideline).

2) He plays against the big 12 horrible defenses:

(rushing yards per game)(rushing yards per attempt)

Kansas State (17th)(25th)

Ok State (42nd)(44th)

Texas Tech(84th)(81st)

Oklahoma (86th)(98th)

Kansas (91st)(112)

If you want to say he's overrated, fine.

But saying he "hasn't shown anything close to being even a day 3 pick this season" is just mind-numbingly stupid.

He was rated as a five star prospect out of high school and has been dominant since getting a chance for Baylor. He's probably leading the country in rushing over the last five games and has been a huge factor in saving Baylor's season. They're 4-1 since he took over.

He has made some massive plays like this one and this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZUWEcP71Ag

I meant day 2 pick, I can see him going in the late rounds. He isn't even close to Bernard/Lacy/Taylor/Ball. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/RB

I don't throw out statements without watching a kid play, he just isn't there yet and doesn't have much production. The only RB I can remember in recent memory that was drafted in the first two rounds with limited production was Chris Henry. He was also a 4.3 guy that weighed 220.

Umm..Hello? He's not in those rankings because he is considered a "sophomore", but really a Redshirt Sophomore. They also don't have Jawan Jamison in those rankings.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/players.php?genpos=RB&draftyear=2015&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

Are those my rankings? No, chill out. I'm debating him being a 1st/2nd day pick right now.

Yes I watched the Texas Tech game and my analysis stands. He has a lot of development to make it in the first two rounds.

You say Seastrunk "isn't even close to Bernard/Lacy/Taylor/Ball." then cite CBS rankings. You didn't give your rankings, so I assume you agreed with those rankings.

Oh and why knock a RB for playing in the Big12? The NFL's leading rusher came from the BIG12. Yes they have porous defenses, but Seastrunk is averaging an absurd 7.6 YPC. He's doing exactly what he's suppose to be doing with the combo of his talent and lack of defense in the BIG12.

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Cal report:Brendan Bigelow, RB:Will be talked about as the next Jahvid Best. Listed at 5'10" 190, is probably as fast as Best in straight-line speed, doesn't have quite his lateral fluidity, but is stronger and has a nice spin move. Averaged 9.8 yards/carry as a change of pace back this year as a sophomore.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR5yM7giEr0Chris Harper, WR:Went for 41/544 as a true freshman. Great ball skills and good speed. Good route runner. Will be Cal's #1 receiver, has room to grow.Richard Rodgers, TE:Listed at 6'4", 265; potential for a Gronkowski-type receiver. Good body control for his size. Was injured much of this year, seemed under-utilized when he was in.

Thanks, always love to hear from the knowledgeable "homers."

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****** had to edit some of the links out because it didn't translate to the FBG format... if you want all the links to their stats and Rivals pages follow the link and they are all there.

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2013 Developmental Draft Rankings:

http://fantasy-footballu.com/developement/

Hey guys, I realize the college football season isn't over yet, but here are the main guys that have caught my eye and already have me excited for the future. If your wondering where all the RB prospects have been hiding the past few years(other than Trent Richardson), you have your answers here.

I won't go as far as saying there are future NFL studs in this group, but guys like Todd Gurley, TJ Yeldon and Ka'Deem Carey have me cautiously optomistic.

As with every year, young players have a long way to go and many obstacles to dodge before they can call themselves pros, but heres a VERY early look at the budding stars of college football.

Running Back

1. Todd Gurley Georgia

Highlights:

A.http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=MssWkBZ4gkk

B.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmfl6zjPPx0

C.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAwvNA0_GI

D.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1J1ZCk4Iug

2. TJ Yeldon Alabama

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSranCawC_A

3. Ka'Deem Carey Arizona

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXqONnRoCY

4. Joe Bergeron Texas

Highlights:

A.

B. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skm1gNS7MN8

5. Lache Seastrunk Baylor

Highlights:

A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJRyNgXss70

B.

6. Brendan Bigelow California

Highlights:

A.

B.

7. Melvin Gordon Wisconsin

8. James Wilder Florida State

Highlights:

A.

B.

9. Kenneth Dixon Louisiana State

10. Keith Marshall Georgia

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY1aNGIe2Wk

B.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYXA1wri9g

C.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lMuMUrtEv4

WRs

1. Marqise Lee USC

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-24reXQJzc

B.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldib8lAF3Gg

C.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZChvw66oDyg

2. Stefon Diggs Maryland

Highlights:

A.

B.

C.

3. Sammy Watkins Clemson

Highlights:

A.

B. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TQCRtp6Peo

4. Austin Hill Arizona

Highlights:

A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNrW2DZ3IS0

5. Austin Seferian-Jenkins(TE) Washington

6. DaVante Adams Fresno State

7. Amari Cooper Alabama

Higlights:

A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxpzdpct90

8. Nelson Agholor USC

9. Donte Moncrief Ole Miss

10. Chris Boyd Vanderbilt

Highlights:

A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5P89r0eDOI

**** obviously the cubboard is pretty bare for youtube videos, I did the best I could but these guys are so young their simply isn't a lot of material that have been posted yet.

If you want to catch some actual game action of these guys...bowl season is coming up, I suggest you indulge.

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Cal report:Brendan Bigelow, RB:Will be talked about as the next Jahvid Best. Listed at 5'10" 190, is probably as fast as Best in straight-line speed, doesn't have quite his lateral fluidity, but is stronger and has a nice spin move. Averaged 9.8 yards/carry as a change of pace back this year as a sophomore.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR5yM7giEr0Chris Harper, WR:Went for 41/544 as a true freshman. Great ball skills and good speed. Good route runner. Will be Cal's #1 receiver, has room to grow.Richard Rodgers, TE:Listed at 6'4", 265; potential for a Gronkowski-type receiver. Good body control for his size. Was injured much of this year, seemed under-utilized when he was in.

Thanks, always love to hear from the knowledgeable "homers."
I'm really excited for Bigelow to get more carries next year

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****** had to edit some of the links out because it didn't translate to the FBG format... if you want all the links to their stats and Rivals pages follow the link and they are all there.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

2013 Developmental Draft Rankings:

http://fantasy-footballu.com/developement/

Hey guys, I realize the college football season isn't over yet, but here are the main guys that have caught my eye and already have me excited for the future. If your wondering where all the RB prospects have been hiding the past few years(other than Trent Richardson), you have your answers here.

I won't go as far as saying there are future NFL studs in this group, but guys like Todd Gurley, TJ Yeldon and Ka'Deem Carey have me cautiously optomistic.

As with every year, young players have a long way to go and many obstacles to dodge before they can call themselves pros, but heres a VERY early look at the budding stars of college football.

Running Back

1. Todd Gurley Georgia

Highlights:

A.http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=MssWkBZ4gkk

B.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmfl6zjPPx0

C.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAwvNA0_GI

D.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1J1ZCk4Iug

2. TJ Yeldon Alabama

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSranCawC_A

3. Ka'Deem Carey Arizona

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXqONnRoCY

4. Joe Bergeron Texas

Highlights:

A.

B. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skm1gNS7MN8

5. Lache Seastrunk Baylor

Highlights:

A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJRyNgXss70

B.

6. Brendan Bigelow California

Highlights:

A.

B.

7. Melvin Gordon Wisconsin

8. James Wilder Florida State

Highlights:

A.

B.

9. Kenneth Dixon Louisiana State

10. Keith Marshall Georgia

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY1aNGIe2Wk

B.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYXA1wri9g

C.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lMuMUrtEv4

WRs

1. Marqise Lee USC

Highlights:

A.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-24reXQJzc

B.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldib8lAF3Gg

C.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZChvw66oDyg

2. Stefon Diggs Maryland

Highlights:

A.

B.

C.

3. Sammy Watkins Clemson

Highlights:

A.

B.

4. Austin Hill Arizona

Highlights:

A.

5. Austin Seferian-Jenkins(TE) Washington

6. DaVante Adams Fresno State

7. Amari Cooper Alabama

Higlights:

A.

8. Nelson Agholor USC

9. Donte Moncrief Ole Miss

10. Chris Boyd Vanderbilt

Highlights:

A.

**** obviously the cubboard is pretty bare for youtube videos, I did the best I could but these guys are so young their simply isn't a lot of material that have been posted yet.

If you want to catch some actual game action of these guys...bowl season is coming up, I suggest you indulge.

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Here is Terron Ward's big game vs Arizona State. Tackle-breaking machine. He's in the Ray Rice/Maurice Jones-Drew mold.

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

Looks more like Arian Foster to me

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

Looks more like Arian Foster to me
Foster? Nah. He is a smaller, quicker guy. Listed at about 200 pounds.

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

Too high of praise. He's more like Steve Slaton, who also had Rich Rodriguez as a head coach.

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

Looks more like Arian Foster to me
Foster? Nah. He is a smaller, quicker guy. Listed at about 200 pounds.
He looks like more of a power guy than a speed/quicknss guy. I think he can add 10 lbs to that frame. No way hes gonna make it as a speed back in the NFL. To me it looks like his decision making and the way he can cut through blocks so smoothly is what sets him apart. Edited by wiscstlatlmia

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He's little like Jamaal Charles/LeSean McCoy imo; Carey will do well for himself if he could run under 4.5 at the combine, and he takes on and throws off tacklers way more than Charles/McCoy do. I'd say he's most similar to Frank Gore, though quicker but less bulky.

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

Compared to most backs against Nevada this year, he looked average. Some sarcasm in there but not a defense I use a barometer. That said, I liked his vision and made some nice cuts. Looked better than Johnson.

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Cal report:Brendan Bigelow, RB:Will be talked about as the next Jahvid Best. Listed at 5'10" 190, is probably as fast as Best in straight-line speed, doesn't have quite his lateral fluidity, but is stronger and has a nice spin move. Averaged 9.8 yards/carry as a change of pace back this year as a sophomore.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR5yM7giEr0Chris Harper, WR:Went for 41/544 as a true freshman. Great ball skills and good speed. Good route runner. Will be Cal's #1 receiver, has room to grow.Richard Rodgers, TE:Listed at 6'4", 265; potential for a Gronkowski-type receiver. Good body control for his size. Was injured much of this year, seemed under-utilized when he was in.

Bigelow had a couple pretty incredible runs against my Buckeyes. At least I think that was him....If I'm remembering correctly, he had almos 200 yards on his first 5 carries.

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Totally a homer pick and a deeper sleeper, probably a mid to late rounder with upside, but I am intrigued by OSU backup RB Rd Smith. He was a RS Soph, but he's not coming out. Has a little bit of Bryce Brown to his game.

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Ka'Deem Carey looking good against Nevada. Wears #25 and reminds me a bit of LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles with his quick cuts. He's the leading rusher in the nation and based on what I'm seeing, that's not a total fluke.

Compared to most backs against Nevada this year, he looked average. Some sarcasm in there but not a defense I use a barometer. That said, I liked his vision and made some nice cuts. Looked better than Johnson.
Yea, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's Barry Sanders or anything. He had a monster season though and at least looks like a guy who will be drafted when the time comes.

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Cal report:

Brendan Bigelow, RB:

Will be talked about as the next Jahvid Best. Listed at 5'10" 190, is probably as fast as Best in straight-line speed, doesn't have quite his lateral fluidity, but is stronger and has a nice spin move. Averaged 9.8 yards/carry as a change of pace back this year as a sophomore.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=cR5yM7giEr0

Chris Harper, WR:

Went for 41/544 as a true freshman. Great ball skills and good speed. Good route runner. Will be Cal's #1 receiver, has room to grow.

Richard Rodgers, TE:

Listed at 6'4", 265; potential for a Gronkowski-type receiver. Good body control for his size. Was injured much of this year, seemed under-utilized when he was in.

Bigelow had a couple pretty incredible runs against my Buckeyes. At least I think that was him....

If I'm remembering correctly, he had almos 200 yards on his first 5 carries.

Yes, he did great against Ohio State. It'll be fun to see him as the starter next year.

Oh, also, I hadn't realized that Sonny Dykes coached Gronkowski at Arizona; that's a plus for Rodgers.

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I'm very confused about the roster listing of two freshman RB's for Georgia that are good prospects.

Todd Gurley 6'1 218

Keith Marshall 5'11 216

Yes 2 inch difference, but it looks like a 30 lb difference in pads.

Am I wrong here?

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Todd Gurley 6'1 218Keith Marshall 5'11 216

I've given up believing anything I read about HTs/WTs/Speeds etc until the combine. They are rarely anywhere close to correct.

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Todd Gurley 6'1 218Keith Marshall 5'11 216

I've given up believing anything I read about HTs/WTs/Speeds etc until the combine. They are rarely anywhere close to correct.
True, this is what I found from ESPN.com on the roster page.

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I'm very confused about the roster listing of two freshman RB's for Georgia that are good prospects.Todd Gurley 6'1 218Keith Marshall 5'11 216Yes 2 inch difference, but it looks like a 30 lb difference in pads.Am I wrong here?

Those weights look right to me. Some guys simply play heavier than their actual weight. There are numerous 220+ lb RBs who have no power or strength at all. See: Anthony Dixon and Terrance Ganaway.Marshall is simply a finesse runner and Gurley is a power runner.Another is example is David Wilson and Cyrus Gray. They're both the same height and weight. But one clearly plays stronger than the other.

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Funny how most of this thread is about guys that are already household names.

I really like the physical presence of Quincy Enunwa from NU. He still needs polish as a junior but the guy is a load to bring down and reminds me of TO with his strength after the catch but needs to work on his hands

I will take the bait:

A couple of Mid-american RB with production and NFL size (not sure of the speed on either)

Jahwan edwards Ball state 5'10" 225

David Flullen toledo 6'0" 215

Here are some Jahwan Edwards
. I'm impressed with his vision and burst through the hole. Also some very good feet for a 225-pounder. I said it before, I see a LOT of Montee Ball in him. Watch the cut at :17. That's something I see Ball do a lot of.

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Davante Adams made two ridiculous catches tonight:

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2013 Developmental Draft Rankings:

Running Back

4. Joe Bergeron Texas

Highlights:

A.

B. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skm1gNS7MN8

As a Texas fan I've seen every game he's played, and I can tell you he's probably not an NFL RB, much less a top draft prospect. He's a nice versatile player with power who could probably play FB in the league, but he lacks the speed and quickness to play RB.

Both Malcolm Brown and Johnathan Gray are much better prospects amongst the Longhorn RBs.

Edited by Redmen62

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reminded me of Steven Jackson with his size and speed

I see Deuce McAllister. Jeremy Hill is everything we want from Le'Veon Bell.

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With Stepfan Taylor leaving, I'm excited to see more of Remound Wright next year (as well as Barry Sanders, Jr. of course):

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Two young wrs I really like are Stefan Diggs and Nelson Algholar. Jeff Driskel (Florida qb) has the metrics that nfl scouts will love. I think he's a better prospect than Manziel. At rb I like TJ Yeldon and Todd Gurley. Keith Marshall, Gurley's backup, is also pretty good.

Edit: Completely forgot Jeremy Hill. I think his skill set is the best of all of the young rbs but he has some obvious character concerns.

Edited by BruceAlmighty

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Yesterday's game was the only full Georgia game I've seen all year. Watched the RBs closely. While it was just one game, I felt like I wanted to like Marshall more than I did. Yes, he's fast. But he didn't make anyone miss and just didn't seem very instinctual. He did make a great catch on the TD, though.

And then Gurley was solid, but he's awfully big already for a true freshman. I worry about his speed already, and he's likely to get even bigger. He did seem more like a football player, though, and I can see why he got the nod over Marshall even though Marshall was more highly recruited.

No question to me that Marshall has a higher ceiling, but he seems to also have more bust potential.

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Yesterday's game was the only full Georgia game I've seen all year. Watched the RBs closely. While it was just one game, I felt like I wanted to like Marshall more than I did. Yes, he's fast. But he didn't make anyone miss and just didn't seem very instinctual. He did make a great catch on the TD, though.And then Gurley was solid, but he's awfully big already for a true freshman. I worry about his speed already, and he's likely to get even bigger. He did seem more like a football player, though, and I can see why he got the nod over Marshall even though Marshall was more highly recruited.No question to me that Marshall has a higher ceiling, but he seems to also have more bust potential.

Gurley's frame looks to be able to add some and retain speed, as long as it's good weight. He doesn't look too big to me at all and he has plenty of speed. I like Gurley a good deal more than Marshall. i like hhim as much as Yeldon, both of whom I like more than the rest of their class.

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i'm really looking forward to the game tonight to see how Teddy performs on the national stage

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i'm really looking forward to the game tonight to see how Teddy performs on the national stage

Yea, it will be interesting. I think he might be the best QB prospect in the 2013 or 2014 classes, but this will be a good test for him.

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Yesterday's game was the only full Georgia game I've seen all year. Watched the RBs closely. While it was just one game, I felt like I wanted to like Marshall more than I did. Yes, he's fast. But he didn't make anyone miss and just didn't seem very instinctual. He did make a great catch on the TD, though.And then Gurley was solid, but he's awfully big already for a true freshman. I worry about his speed already, and he's likely to get even bigger. He did seem more like a football player, though, and I can see why he got the nod over Marshall even though Marshall was more highly recruited.No question to me that Marshall has a higher ceiling, but he seems to also have more bust potential.

Gurley's frame looks to be able to add some and retain speed, as long as it's good weight. He doesn't look too big to me at all and he has plenty of speed. I like Gurley a good deal more than Marshall. i like hhim as much as Yeldon, both of whom I like more than the rest of their class.
Gurley looks fine at his current weight. He's got enough strength and power already. He's built just like Fred Jackson. They're both 6'1" 216-218 lbs.

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Some other names to throw into the ring:

QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville

RB Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska

WR Allen Robinson, Penn State

WR Brandon Coleman, Rutgers

TE Xavier Grimble, USC

And then some longer shots:

RB Jela Duncan, Duke

RB Imani Cross, Nebraska

RB Trey Williams, Texas A&M

RB JC Coleman, Virginia Tech

RB Ben Malena, Texas A&M

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Abdullah has some crazy quicks and strength for a "little" guy. Can run between the tackles. Warrick Dunn-like.

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I like Abdullah. 1000+ yards on 5 YPC. He had a filthy run in that game against Georgia a couple days ago.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8800114

Those are NFL cuts. Size is a question mark, but quickness isn't. And he's 2014 eligible, as opposed to 2015 for Gurley/Yeldon/Hill/etc.

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Abdullah reportedly can squat 500+ lbs.

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