30%?Taxing the sale of MJ is extremely popular, especially among non-smokers. Not sure why they think the proposed tax in CO won't pass.
Illinois taxes alcohol by volume not as a % of sale.What's the tax there on alcohol? Make it the same. Problem solved.
But it looks like Colorado taxes alcohol at 2.9%. 30% seems a little over the top compared to that. So it's reasonable to think it'll be tough to pass given the fact the voters already approved 15%Illinois taxes alcohol by volume not as a % of sale.What's the tax there on alcohol? Make it the same. Problem solved.
Colorado didn't adopt a sales tax until 2 years after prohibition ended.Can someone tell me what the tax on alcohol was when prohibition of alcohol was repealed?
I did a quick search but couldn't find it.
Might be a good jumping off point to see if taxes were high at first and subsequently came down.
I agree. They need to look at the big picture. If MJ legalization takes off, there's the potential of neighboring states having cheaper product. Perhaps forcing CO th rethink the rate.While the tax is excessive, smokers should support it , as the alternative is is back to illegal status. The choice is pay 30% more or risk going to jail, it's a pretty clear choice. It may be blackmail by the politicians, but you've got to keep it legal from a smoker's perspective. Non-smokers should support it regardless, because they aren't paying it. It would be ironic if anti-tax non-smokers end up voting it down on principle.
The same reason people buy tomatoes, corn, broccoli.I haven't bothered to keep up with a state that is 2k away but are you nto allowed to grow your own there? Why would anybody buy weed if you can grow it yourself. Besides being lazy?
Fair point.Dr. Gobbler said:The same reason people buy tomatoes, corn, broccoli.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:I haven't bothered to keep up with a state that is 2k away but are you nto allowed to grow your own there? Why would anybody buy weed if you can grow it yourself. Besides being lazy?
I grow my own. I call it The Cornic.Dr. Gobbler said:The same reason people buy tomatoes, corn, broccoli.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:I haven't bothered to keep up with a state that is 2k away but are you nto allowed to grow your own there? Why would anybody buy weed if you can grow it yourself. Besides being lazy?
I grow my own. I call it The Cornic.Dr. Gobbler said:The same reason people buy tomatoes, corn, broccoli.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:I haven't bothered to keep up with a state that is 2k away but are you nto allowed to grow your own there? Why would anybody buy weed if you can grow it yourself. Besides being lazy?
Well i aint a Democrat, but they got one vote.Theres talk of Florida possibly becoming the first southern state to legalize medicinal marijuana in 2014. A local big shot attorney is spearheading the campaign to get the 680k signatures to get it on the ballot.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/florida-medical-marijuana_n_2915919.html
Florida Medical Marijuana Campaign Gets Backing From Top Democratic Fundraisers
ORLANDO, Fla., March 20 (Reuters) - Two top Democratic fundraisers in Florida have committed to providing the money and know-how to get the question of legalizing medical marijuana on the state ballot in 2014.
"I'm prepared to keep raising money and writing checks until I get the signatures to put it on the ballot," attorney John Morgan said late on Tuesday.
Morgan, who routinely hosts presidents and national political figures at his Orlando-area home, recently signed on as chairman of People United for Medical Marijuana-Florida, a grassroots campaign that operated on a shoestring until now.
Morgan was recruited by Ben Pollara, a lobbyist and fundraiser for President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign. Pollara recently became treasurer of the medical marijuana campaign.
By law, the campaign needs to collect signatures of almost 700,000 registered voters to get a constitutional amendment legalizing medical marijuana on the ballot in November 2014.
Pollara estimated the campaign will cost $10 million.
Morgan, who put his money behind a successful 2004 constitutional amendment raising Florida's minimum wage, said he thinks he can recruit an "army of angels" to help gather the necessary signatures for the ballot initiative.
"I believe there is going to be kind of an uprising of people who have needed it in the past or had a loved one who needed it who are going to say I don't want this to happen to someone else," Morgan said.
Passed by the Senate Executive Committee without any changes Now for the full Senate.
Illinois Senate approves medical marijuana billBy Monique Garcia
Clout Street2:56 p.m. CDT, May 17, 2013
SPRINGFIELD --- The Senate today approved legislation that would allow doctors to prescribe medical marijuana to patients with serious illnesses, sending the measure to Gov. Pat Quinn.
The issue pitted supporters arguing for compassion for those suffering from pain they say only cannabis can ease against opponents who contend the legislation would undermine public safety.
Sponsoring Sen. Bill Haine, D-Alton, argued the measure is one of the toughest in the nation. Haine said his bill does not reflect other states that have “sloppily” instituted medical marijuana laws.
“This bill is filled with walls to keep this limited,” said Haine, a former Madison County state’s attorney.
Sen. Kyle McCarter, R-Lebanon, raised concerns about lawmakers endorsing a product that classified as a controlled substance by the federal government, arguing marijuana is a gateway drug that could lead users to harder substances.
“For every touching story we have heard about the benefits to those in pain, I remind you today that there are a thousand time more parents who will never be relieved from the pain of losing a child due to addiction which in many cases started with the very illegal, FDA-unapproved addiction-forming drug that you are asking us to now make a normal part of our communities,” McCarter said.
The proposal would create a four-year trial program in which doctors could prescribe patients no more than 2.5 ounces of marijuana every two weeks. To qualify, patients must have one of 33 serious or chronic conditions -- including cancer, multiple sclerosis or HIV -- and an established relationship with a doctor.
Patients would undergo fingerprinting and a criminal background check and would be banned from using marijuana in public and around minors. Patients also could not legally grow marijuana, and they would have to buy it from one of 60 dispensing centers across Illinois. The state would license 22 growers.
The measure drew strong opposition from the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police and the Illinois Sheriffs' Association, which sent a letter to the governor and lawmakers warning the proposal would not stop medical marijuana card holders from driving while under the influence. They suggested blood and urine testing be included in the legislation to allow police to determine whether card holders had marijuana in their system while driving.
Haine argued the law has safeguards to prevent that, including designating on a driver's license whether they use medical marijuana.
The Senate vote was 35-21, with 30 needed to pass the bill. It goes to Quinn, who has not indicated whether he will sign it. The Democratic governor recently said he is open minded to the legislation.
Saw this due to a couple of god-fearing, uptight righties voicing their outrage on fb.Illinois Senate approves medical marijuana billBy Monique Garcia
Clout Street2:56 p.m. CDT, May 17, 2013
SPRINGFIELD --- The Senate today approved legislation that would allow doctors to prescribe medical marijuana to patients with serious illnesses, sending the measure to Gov. Pat Quinn.
The issue pitted supporters arguing for compassion for those suffering from pain they say only cannabis can ease against opponents who contend the legislation would undermine public safety.
Sponsoring Sen. Bill Haine, D-Alton, argued the measure is one of the toughest in the nation. Haine said his bill does not reflect other states that have “sloppily” instituted medical marijuana laws.
“This bill is filled with walls to keep this limited,” said Haine, a former Madison County state’s attorney.
Sen. Kyle McCarter, R-Lebanon, raised concerns about lawmakers endorsing a product that classified as a controlled substance by the federal government, arguing marijuana is a gateway drug that could lead users to harder substances.
“For every touching story we have heard about the benefits to those in pain, I remind you today that there are a thousand time more parents who will never be relieved from the pain of losing a child due to addiction which in many cases started with the very illegal, FDA-unapproved addiction-forming drug that you are asking us to now make a normal part of our communities,” McCarter said.
The proposal would create a four-year trial program in which doctors could prescribe patients no more than 2.5 ounces of marijuana every two weeks. To qualify, patients must have one of 33 serious or chronic conditions -- including cancer, multiple sclerosis or HIV -- and an established relationship with a doctor.
Patients would undergo fingerprinting and a criminal background check and would be banned from using marijuana in public and around minors. Patients also could not legally grow marijuana, and they would have to buy it from one of 60 dispensing centers across Illinois. The state would license 22 growers.
The measure drew strong opposition from the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police and the Illinois Sheriffs' Association, which sent a letter to the governor and lawmakers warning the proposal would not stop medical marijuana card holders from driving while under the influence. They suggested blood and urine testing be included in the legislation to allow police to determine whether card holders had marijuana in their system while driving.
Haine argued the law has safeguards to prevent that, including designating on a driver's license whether they use medical marijuana.
The Senate vote was 35-21, with 30 needed to pass the bill. It goes to Quinn, who has not indicated whether he will sign it. The Democratic governor recently said he is open minded to the legislation.
SEATTLE — Federal agents have raided a number of medical marijuana dispensaries in the Puget Sound region.
Drug Enforcement Administration spokeswoman Jodie Underwood said Wednesday afternoon the operation was under way. She declined to immediately provide details about how many dispensaries were being targeted or how many search warrants were being executed.
Washington state legalized adult possession of up to an ounce of marijuana last fall, but marijuana remains illegal under federal law.
Seattle medical marijuana attorney Douglas Hiatt said the targeted dispensaries include Seattle Cross, Tacoma Cross and Bayside Collective in Olympia.
Bayside employee Addy Norton said agents seized personal cell phones of dispensary workers and pot, but left computers and about $1,000 in cash. Agents told her the raid was part of a two-year investigation, and she said she was ordered to appear before a federal grand jury in Seattle in September.
The raid came just days after Bayside was burglarized on Sunday night.
Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/07/24/3108898/dea-raiding-marijuana-dispensaries.html#storylink=cpy
I am so sick of the Feds prioritizing marijuana.
Governor Quinn signed the bill yesterday.Saw this due to a couple of god-fearing, uptight righties voicing their outrage on fb.Illinois Senate approves medical marijuana billBy Monique Garcia
Clout Street2:56 p.m. CDT, May 17, 2013
SPRINGFIELD --- The Senate today approved legislation that would allow doctors to prescribe medical marijuana to patients with serious illnesses, sending the measure to Gov. Pat Quinn.
The issue pitted supporters arguing for compassion for those suffering from pain they say only cannabis can ease against opponents who contend the legislation would undermine public safety.
Sponsoring Sen. Bill Haine, D-Alton, argued the measure is one of the toughest in the nation. Haine said his bill does not reflect other states that have “sloppily” instituted medical marijuana laws.
“This bill is filled with walls to keep this limited,” said Haine, a former Madison County state’s attorney.
Sen. Kyle McCarter, R-Lebanon, raised concerns about lawmakers endorsing a product that classified as a controlled substance by the federal government, arguing marijuana is a gateway drug that could lead users to harder substances.
“For every touching story we have heard about the benefits to those in pain, I remind you today that there are a thousand time more parents who will never be relieved from the pain of losing a child due to addiction which in many cases started with the very illegal, FDA-unapproved addiction-forming drug that you are asking us to now make a normal part of our communities,” McCarter said.
The proposal would create a four-year trial program in which doctors could prescribe patients no more than 2.5 ounces of marijuana every two weeks. To qualify, patients must have one of 33 serious or chronic conditions -- including cancer, multiple sclerosis or HIV -- and an established relationship with a doctor.
Patients would undergo fingerprinting and a criminal background check and would be banned from using marijuana in public and around minors. Patients also could not legally grow marijuana, and they would have to buy it from one of 60 dispensing centers across Illinois. The state would license 22 growers.
The measure drew strong opposition from the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police and the Illinois Sheriffs' Association, which sent a letter to the governor and lawmakers warning the proposal would not stop medical marijuana card holders from driving while under the influence. They suggested blood and urine testing be included in the legislation to allow police to determine whether card holders had marijuana in their system while driving.
Haine argued the law has safeguards to prevent that, including designating on a driver's license whether they use medical marijuana.
The Senate vote was 35-21, with 30 needed to pass the bill. It goes to Quinn, who has not indicated whether he will sign it. The Democratic governor recently said he is open minded to the legislation.
They had some ####### Chief of Police from the 'burbs on WGN talking about how the cops were all against it. Not one single follow up question on whether they were also against other prescription pain killers.Time for the DEA to declare victory and disband.
Yeah he's a ####### liar.They had some ####### Chief of Police from the 'burbs on WGN talking about how the cops were all against it. Not one single follow up question on whether they were also against other prescription pain killers.Time for the DEA to declare victory and disband.
Police chiefs don't want to be losing the ability to seize all of that guilty property.They had some ####### Chief of Police from the 'burbs on WGN talking about how the cops were all against it. Not one single follow up question on whether they were also against other prescription pain killers.Time for the DEA to declare victory and disband.
It sounds like the feds will take a hands off approach towards local recreational marijuana businesses that are in compliance with state law and regulations.STATEMENT BY U.S. ATTORNEY JOHN WALSH REGARDING MARIJUANA ENFORCEMENT IN COLORADO
The U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Colorado will continue to focus its marijuana enforcement efforts on the investigation and prosecution of cases that implicate the key federal public safety interests highlighted in the todays Department of Justice guidance. The key federal interests set forth in that guidance are also key interests of the people of Colorado. Of particular concern to the U.S. Attorneys Office are cases involving marijuana trafficking directly or indirectly to children and young people; trafficking that involves violence or other federal criminal activity; trafficking conducted or financed by street gangs and drug cartels; cultivation of marijuana on Colorados extensive state and federal public lands; and trafficking across state and international lines. In addition, because the Department of Justices guidance emphasizes the central importance of strong and effective state marijuana regulatory systems, the U.S. Attorneys Office will continue to focus on whether Colorados system, when it is implemented, has the resources and tools necessary to protect those key federal public safety interests. To accomplish these goals, we look forward to closely working with our federal, state and local partners.
John Walsh, United States Attorney, District of Colorado
Huge step. Took too long, but don't it always?The U.S. Attorney for the District of Colorado released a statement today regarding federal marijuana enforcement in Colorado.
It sounds like the feds will take a hands off approach towards local recreational marijuana businesses that are in compliance with state law and regulations.STATEMENT BY U.S. ATTORNEY JOHN WALSH REGARDING MARIJUANA ENFORCEMENT IN COLORADO
The U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Colorado will continue to focus its marijuana enforcement efforts on the investigation and prosecution of cases that implicate the key federal public safety interests highlighted in the todays Department of Justice guidance. The key federal interests set forth in that guidance are also key interests of the people of Colorado. Of particular concern to the U.S. Attorneys Office are cases involving marijuana trafficking directly or indirectly to children and young people; trafficking that involves violence or other federal criminal activity; trafficking conducted or financed by street gangs and drug cartels; cultivation of marijuana on Colorados extensive state and federal public lands; and trafficking across state and international lines. In addition, because the Department of Justices guidance emphasizes the central importance of strong and effective state marijuana regulatory systems, the U.S. Attorneys Office will continue to focus on whether Colorados system, when it is implemented, has the resources and tools necessary to protect those key federal public safety interests. To accomplish these goals, we look forward to closely working with our federal, state and local partners.
John Walsh, United States Attorney, District of Colorado
This is perhaps the biggest news on federal marijuana policy in our lifetimes.
This should be reported in Finless's stupid thread.This wouldn't have happened under GW Bush. So YEAH Obama!!!!
What's the legal status in MD?Looks like this isn't just for Colorado and Washington -- the feds are saying they're butting out of all the states where medical marijuana is legal.