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marijuana winning big at the polls. CO/MASS/wash pass (2 Viewers)

urbanhack said:
Interesting analysis from a leading cannabis attorney:

“The 2018 Farm Bill Analysis & Effect on THC Legislation

I reviewed the Farm Bill, and although it is a giant step forward, the industry is still going to be in a morass of state and federal regulations for the foreseeable future. Had this bill passed in 2014, the vast majority of the state regulations would have been avoided or radically less intrusive (corn doesn't have that much regulation). Nevertheless, it will be one of the seminal laws in the history of the cannabis industry. 

It will be interesting to see if the passage of this law will accelerate or slow down the passage of a THC cannabis bill. My feeling is that it will slow it down. Pharma wants access to the non-THC cannabinoids and they got what they needed in the Farm Bill. I saw Pharma as the power that could push THC legalization through.

With pharma off the field, you have Alcohol and their arch rival, the prohibitionist, on the same side fighting marijuana legalization. Alcohol doesn't want it because it is devastating to their markets and prohibitionist, well they are what they are. Both have significant political power. Politics make strange bedfellows.  I don't see a well-organized group with enough political power to push THC legalization through anytime soon.  #cannabis #cbd #hemp #marijuana”
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A march on DC?  Say 500,000 people show up at the capitol like the kids did earlier this year about gun violence.  Not that it would matter, but it seems to me that nobody is really pushing legalization.  People just dont care enough about this issue.  I think that's one of the biggest problems.  I mean, polls are taken, people clearly want legalization, but they dont care enough to do much about it.

 
Johnnymac said:
A march on DC?  Say 500,000 people show up at the capitol like the kids did earlier this year about gun violence.  Not that it would matter, but it seems to me that nobody is really pushing legalization.  People just dont care enough about this issue.  I think that's one of the biggest problems.  I mean, polls are taken, people clearly want legalization, but they dont care enough to do much about it.
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Honestly, decriminalization and expungement of previous records is what we should be focused on.  States are making progress one by one both medically and rec.

I know it should be de-scheduled or removed completely, but the current restrictions and still allowing the original pioneers to succeed in this industry.  The minute it gets federally legalized, big tobacco, big pharma and alcohol will own pretty much everything.  

 
urbanhack said:
Honestly, decriminalization and expungement of previous records is what we should be focused on.  States are making progress one by one both medically and rec.

I know it should be de-scheduled or removed completely, but the current restrictions and still allowing the original pioneers to succeed in this industry.  The minute it gets federally legalized, big tobacco, big pharma and alcohol will own pretty much everything.  
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Agreed, that's why we dont have what we want.  Pharma, tobacco, etc were never going to let marijuana eat into their business, or outright destroy their business.

Sort of off-topic but I live in an illegal state with some of the harshest mj laws in the country.  I see that John Boehner marijuana stock commercial every ####### day, yet I would be charged with a crime if I used the product that want me to invest in.  It's nuts.  

The real crime being committed here is by the government, prohibiting this medicine for people who need it.  THAT is the crime.

 
Johnnymac said:
I see that John Boehner marijuana stock commercial every ####### day, yet I would be charged with a crime if I used the product that want me to invest in.  It's nuts.  

The real crime being committed here is by the government, prohibiting this medicine for people who need it.  THAT is the crime.
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Yep.  Agree 100%

 
Johnnymac said:
A march on DC?  Say 500,000 people show up at the capitol like the kids did earlier this year about gun violence.  Not that it would matter, but it seems to me that nobody is really pushing legalization.  People just dont care enough about this issue.  I think that's one of the biggest problems.  I mean, polls are taken, people clearly want legalization, but they dont care enough to do much about it.
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It's almost like the people who most support legal marijuana have some kind of motivation issue.

 
A medical grower here in Maryland (COO was a big financial supporter of the current governor, not that that's really a part of the story) was just fined $125,000 for using pesticides on their crops and ordered to destroy everything grown before May 31. OTOH, the state is now reporting that revenues from medical sales, now finally up and running, will about double estimates for the year. There are about 70,000 registered users and the state is reporting about 300 new applications every day (or about 50,000) per year. The legislature appears to finally be willing to have some straight talk about legalizing recreational. And sports betting, too, since we're nearly surrounded by states that already have it (WV, PA, NJ).

Finally, some progress.

 
Da Guru said:
How are schools going to handle this?  Thinking there might be some stoned kids everyday.
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Yeah it is a big problem- both nicotine vape and weed vape. There are lots of kids stoned all day. Lots of them are pretty dumb though and have been caught as we send security to check on bathrooms more often. We have even had some kids just doing it in the hallway and getting caught.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Starting next month, I continue to believe that it will be a good time for the House to start pushing for federal re-scheduling. Make the Repubbies in the Senate defend themselves when they're already facing tons of electoral problems in 2020. I don't know if House Dems have the spine for this, though.
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Big Pharma dollars says no

 
Fan of Charles McCoy said:
Minnesota May be making some moves soon. 

St. Paul City Council & Incoming Gov Walz Support Recreational

The St. Paul City Council voted 6-1 Wednesday night in favor of a resolution "supporting legalization and decriminalization of recreational cannabis in Minnesota and expungement of Minnesotan records of convicted cannabis crimes."

Council member Dan Bostrom, who announced his retirement from the City Council later in the meeting, cast the lone dissenting vote.

In June, police in Minneapolis announced they would no longer be conducting sting operations focused on low-level marijuana sales.

And Gov.-elect Tim Walz has also voiced his support for legalizing the recreational use of marijuana in the state.
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:thumbup:

I am friends with our council president. She is a good one.

I would like to thank CO for legalizing, FYI. I was there this summer and bought many edibles. It made this holiday season quite enjoyable

 
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In the past 24 hours Pennsylvania lawmakers in both the state House and Senate have announced that they will soon file marijuana legalization bills. The moves come as Gov. Tom Wolf is evolving his position on ending cannabis prohibition... https://www.marijuanamoment.net/pennsylvania-lawmakers-gear-up-to-push-full-marijuana-legalization-bills/ …

 
The medical cannabis side of this is basically a human rights issue, imo.

Congresscritters who are hostile to medical marijuana continue to cite FDA's "no benefit" position.  FDA can't move off that default position because marijuana research is heavily restricted due to it being a schedule 1 drug.  At this point it is very clear that the promise of cannabis CDB is huge for (a) pain relief (b) an alternative to opioid use and (c) medical cost reduction.  It has given my wife her life back (RA sufferer).  The last 6 months have been heaven.  She's using the 10-1 CBD vape - you don't get high from that.  She has to pay out of pocket (it should be covered by insurance - another issue) but for a few hundred $$ a month that is the best money we ever spent.  She's off the RA drugs.  Good thing too, since she had a TIA last spring, probably arising from the drug she was taking.  Every single one of us should be writing letters urging rescheduling.  We are.  This is a totally separate issue from recreational.

Personally, I would love to see recreational use legalized at the federal level.  Kansas can still prohibit on their own soil if they so choose.  Whatever.  But recreational legalization is unimportant (to me) compared to the medical side.  When I'm done working (clearance) yeah, I'll hit it recreationally, but if it isn't around oh well.

And of course decriminalization is very important to me, because it is the right thing to do.  Not a single life should be ruined over recreational use or possession.

 
Fan of Charles McCoy said:
Minnesota May be making some moves soon. 

St. Paul City Council & Incoming Gov Walz Support Recreational

The St. Paul City Council voted 6-1 Wednesday night in favor of a resolution "supporting legalization and decriminalization of recreational cannabis in Minnesota and expungement of Minnesotan records of convicted cannabis crimes."

Council member Dan Bostrom, who announced his retirement from the City Council later in the meeting, cast the lone dissenting vote.

In June, police in Minneapolis announced they would no longer be conducting sting operations focused on low-level marijuana sales.

And Gov.-elect Tim Walz has also voiced his support for legalizing the recreational use of marijuana in the state.
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MN is the favorite to be the next state to legalize pot.  The slow but steady March to legalize continues!

 
Speaking of Maryland, anyone know how one can procure some of the plant from DC?  I've read something about shops that give "gifts" but nothing concrete.

PM if necessary...

 
James Daulton said:
Speaking of Maryland, anyone know how one can procure some of the plant from DC?  I've read something about shops that give "gifts" but nothing concrete.

PM if necessary...
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The one I used was buying juice. You call them and give them your order and an address and they deliver to you. Beware High prices!

 
Bloomberg reports that CBS has turned down a Super Bowl ad advocating for legal medical marijuana. I'm withholding judgment until we hear the response from CBS, maybe there's more to it, but this is a bad look. Increasingly it seems that we have a minority obstructing progress on this and many other issues.

 
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roadkill1292 said:
Bloomberg reports that CBS has turned down a Super Bowl ad advocating for legal medical marijuana. I'm withholding judgment until we hear the response from CBS, maybe there's more to it, but this is a bad look. Increasingly it seems that we have a minority obstructing progress on this and many other issues.
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Mention that MMJ helps eyesight - something this country needs. This would be a great ad.

 
If locales won't allow retail outlets in legal or soon-to-be states, like what small towns in NJ, MA and NY are threatening to do, can delivery services still be used in those jurisdictions? Or are the eastern states regulating delivery services out of the picture?

 
Gopher State said:
I don’t understand why the federal government doesn’t get behind legalization of pot.  Billion of tax dollars left on the table.
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Because our government is waiting on final marching orders from the following special interest and lobbyist groups:   private prisons, big pharma, tobacco, monsanto and co.

 
roadkill1292 said:
If locales won't allow retail outlets in legal or soon-to-be states, like what small towns in NJ, MA and NY are threatening to do, can delivery services still be used in those jurisdictions? Or are the eastern states regulating delivery services out of the picture?
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Not yet, but they just passed this in CA recently.  I think it will be a while before delivery licenses are approved in Mass and some the other eastern and NE states.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
But on the state level, new gov of Michigan is trying to jump start the just legal industry as well as keeping the med version moving.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/michigan-marijuana/michigan-governor-signs-order-to-establish-marijuana-regulatory-agency
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yea....but they are going to take all of the 2019 to slowly convert medical licensees over to Rec, maybe not even fully up and running until 2020

Massachusetts was legalized in June of last year and they only have 9 dispensaries live.

 
urbanhack said:
yea....but they are going to take all of the 2019 to slowly convert medical licensees over to Rec, maybe not even fully up and running until 2020

Massachusetts was legalized in June of last year and they only have 9 dispensaries live.
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Michigan also has legal sportsbooks approved by the voters but still nothing there either. The wheels of progress do grind slowly.

 
DC is moving to make recreational weed sales legal

Possession for recreational use is already legal in DC, but it's not technically legal to buy/sell and there are no recreational dispensaries. There are lots of services that will sell you some other item (art, juice, etc) and then "gift" you cannabis products, so it's effectively legal for anyone willing to do some research. But as of now you can't just have a public dispensary and the city can't regulate and tax it. This is mostly a function of a GOP rider in annual appropriations that bars the city from doing so; the assumption is that the Dems will eliminate the rider next time around.

If you had told me a decade ago that I'd ever see a picture of the mayor of Washington DC studiously examining a marijuana crop in the Post I would never have believed it.

 
Illinois is working on a recreational legalization bill that will hopefully get approved this session.  Democratic governor ran on legalization and there is Democratic control of the House and Senate.  It should be a no-brainer considering how broke the state is (among other reasons, of course) but we'll see.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Illinois is working on a recreational legalization bill that will hopefully get approved this session.  Democratic governor ran on legalization and there is Democratic control of the House and Senate.  It should be a no-brainer considering how broke the state is (among other reasons, of course) but we'll see.
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Here's hoping Illinois Dems can accomplish what NJ Dems can not.  NJ is screwing it up like only NJ Dems can. SMDH.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Illinois is working on a recreational legalization bill that will hopefully get approved this session.  Democratic governor ran on legalization and there is Democratic control of the House and Senate.  It should be a no-brainer considering how broke the state is (among other reasons, of course) but we'll see.
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Im keeping my eye on this.  Illinois is right next door to me.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Illinois is working on a recreational legalization bill that will hopefully get approved this session.  Democratic governor ran on legalization and there is Democratic control of the House and Senate.  It should be a no-brainer considering how broke the state is (among other reasons, of course) but we'll see.
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A few of the big multi-state cannabis operators with some deep pockets (GTI and Cresco) are based in IL, I"m sure they are filling some politicians pockets with the other green.

 
BTW - if you are interested in all about the political and social ramifications of legalizing cannabis and the results (and history) of prohibition, please watch the Grass is Greener documentary on Netflix.  @timschochet

 
North Dakota, the only state where voters rejected a marijuana ballot initiative last year, quietly decriminalized on May 2. 

The legislation means that first-time offenders caught possessing half an ounce or less of cannabis will be subject to a fine of up to $1,000, with no jail time. Individuals could be charged with a misdemeanor if they get additional possession infractions over the course of a year.

Additionally, the bill will reduce penalties for possession of greater amounts of marijuana. Possession of more than half an ounce but less than 500 grams will be considered a class B misdemeanor instead of a felony, and possession of anything greater than 500 grams will be a class A misdemeanor, again lowered from a felony.
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That's a pretty substantial fine for a half ounce but it's better than being being tossed in the pokey for having a couple of grams. Interestingly, the legislature and governor's office decided not to make an announcement about this after it passed; the local chapter of NORML discovered it and broke the news. Why would lawmakers pass it but then keep it on the down low?

 
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