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10 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Illinois is working on a recreational legalization bill that will hopefully get approved this session.  Democratic governor ran on legalization and there is Democratic control of the House and Senate.  It should be a no-brainer considering how broke the state is (among other reasons, of course) but we'll see.

Im keeping my eye on this.  Illinois is right next door to me.

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32 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Illinois is working on a recreational legalization bill that will hopefully get approved this session.  Democratic governor ran on legalization and there is Democratic control of the House and Senate.  It should be a no-brainer considering how broke the state is (among other reasons, of course) but we'll see.

A few of the big multi-state cannabis operators with some deep pockets (GTI and Cresco) are based in IL, I"m sure they are filling some politicians pockets with the other green.

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BTW - if you are interested in all about the political and social ramifications of legalizing cannabis and the results (and history) of prohibition, please watch the Grass is Greener documentary on Netflix.  @timschochet

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7 hours ago, Franknbeans said:

and the largest exporter of Marijuana is, you guessed it, the UK

it's going to be Africa in the very near future.

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3 hours ago, Juxtatarot said:

Illinois bill is out. How can this not pass?

Looks really good.  Love all the social justice iniatives.  They are doing it right.   

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North Dakota, the only state where voters rejected a marijuana ballot initiative last year, quietly decriminalized on May 2. 

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The legislation means that first-time offenders caught possessing half an ounce or less of cannabis will be subject to a fine of up to $1,000, with no jail time. Individuals could be charged with a misdemeanor if they get additional possession infractions over the course of a year.

Additionally, the bill will reduce penalties for possession of greater amounts of marijuana. Possession of more than half an ounce but less than 500 grams will be considered a class B misdemeanor instead of a felony, and possession of anything greater than 500 grams will be a class A misdemeanor, again lowered from a felony.

 

That's a pretty substantial fine for a half ounce but it's better than being being tossed in the pokey for having a couple of grams. Interestingly, the legislature and governor's office decided not to make an announcement about this after it passed; the local chapter of NORML discovered it and broke the news. Why would lawmakers pass it but then keep it on the down low?

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Has there ever been any sort of buddy system setup in this place in order to help out some of us? It's been awhile since my last road trip through Colorado and I am close to getting desperate :coffee:

 

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On 5/10/2019 at 2:19 PM, ericttspikes said:

My college roommate got busted with two full trash bags of mushrooms in Del Norte, CO. Not the place to be a long-haired freak. They were determined to be "not illegal, but 100% deadly", per his lawyer. The same source had been supplying mushrooms to the college and many in town for years. Thought that was funny. But yeah, he walked.

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On 5/10/2019 at 2:14 PM, roadkill1292 said:

North Dakota, the only state where voters rejected a marijuana ballot initiative last year, quietly decriminalized on May 2. 

That's a pretty substantial fine for a half ounce but it's better than being being tossed in the pokey for having a couple of grams. Interestingly, the legislature and governor's office decided not to make an announcement about this after it passed; the local chapter of NORML discovered it and broke the news. Why would lawmakers pass it but then keep it on the down low?

Probably because voters struck down the attempt at legalization so they don't expect decriminalization to be super popular. 

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Drove up to Mass from NJ yesterday to visit my first dispensary.   Obviously legalization has been a long time coming, but still wild to see big glass jars right in front of you filled with gorgeous buds.   There's an ounce limit in Mass per day but I was able to score myself some gummies, a couple tinctures (really looking forward to trying this out in a public setting), and a little over a half ounce of flower.   I haven't smoked in about a year and the strain I got along with some vodka sodas knocked me on my ### last night.   Going to try a gummy tonight?

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41 minutes ago, NutterButter said:

Drove up to Mass from NJ yesterday to visit my first dispensary.   Obviously legalization has been a long time coming, but still wild to see big glass jars right in front of you filled with gorgeous buds.   There's an ounce limit in Mass per day but I was able to score myself some gummies, a couple tinctures (really looking forward to trying this out in a public setting), and a little over a half ounce of flower.   I haven't smoked in about a year and the strain I got along with some vodka sodas knocked me on my ### last night.   Going to try a gummy tonight?

Looks like we're on hold for 2 more years now that its going to be on the 2020 ballot.

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On 5/12/2019 at 10:25 AM, the moops said:

Has there ever been any sort of buddy system setup in this place in order to help out some of us? It's been awhile since my last road trip through Colorado and I am close to getting desperate :coffee:

 

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19 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Illinois bill just passed the Senate. Now goes to the House.  We’re almost there!

Did they remove the provision to grow from home?

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1 hour ago, Franknbeans said:

Planting Black Widow, Bruce Banner and Luke Skywalker OG this season

Sweet. I'm getting ready to put a few the ground for the first time.  I'd like to plant Mimosa and Super Silver Haze.  

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1 hour ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Meanwhile in Kentucky........

Kentucky's Governor said that because of 'overdoses', he won't ever legalize cannabis. https://t.co/ZXlgnpDppX

 

This and mitch mcconnell.....sigh

Hey, that's not funny.  I overdosed last night and it put me right to sleep. Did't know a thing till this morning. I just hope I can recover.

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9 hours ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said:

Meanwhile in Kentucky........

Kentucky's Governor said that because of 'overdoses', he won't ever legalize cannabis. https://t.co/ZXlgnpDppX

 

This and mitch mcconnell.....sigh

Ignorant MFs

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On 5/29/2019 at 6:57 PM, Juxtatarot said:

Illinois bill just passed the Senate. Now goes to the House.  We’re almost there!

Done!

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Kind of exciting.  I know everyone always says it's easy to get anywhere but as I got older and hung around with different people, I ran out of connections and didn't feel comfortable really asking around.  Plus I prefer to be law abiding.  Smoked a lot in my college years and early 20s but then less and less as I got older.  It's been several years since the last time.  I'll have to read up before January since I know very little about different types.

 

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16 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Kind of exciting.  I know everyone always says it's easy to get anywhere but as I got older and hung around with different people, I ran out of connections and didn't feel comfortable really asking around.  Plus I prefer to be law abiding.  Smoked a lot in my college years and early 20s but then less and less as I got older.  It's been several years since the last time.  I'll have to read up before January since I know very little about different types.

 

And just wait until you can try all different types of strains with different THC content and terpenes.  

Really excited about the social justice elements of the IL legislation.  All states need to be following this model.  

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1 hour ago, roadkill1292 said:

Virginia's AG just called for recreational legalization. With help from the Supreme Court this week, Democrats are poised to gain control of the state legislature so this might have legs. Damn, 20 years from now we might not even consider Virginia a southern state.

Just got back from Southern Va.  Visit there and you'll reconsider, confederate flags were as plentiful as Trump signs. 

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4 minutes ago, James Daulton said:

Just got back from Southern Va.  Visit there and you'll reconsider, confederate flags were as plentiful as Trump signs. 

It's a different world along the southern tier and western parts of the state. I went to college in Lynchburg when neighboring counties were still resisting school integration so I'm not a stranger to those parts. But they're being slowly outnumbered by the growing metro areas in the state, a phenomena that's happening all over the country and will change it dramatically.

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33 minutes ago, roadkill1292 said:

It's a different world along the southern tier and western parts of the state. I went to college in Lynchburg when neighboring counties were still resisting school integration so I'm not a stranger to those parts. But they're being slowly outnumbered by the growing metro areas in the state, a phenomena that's happening all over the country and will change it dramatically.

We need to grow some liberal metro areas in low population red states.  If we can just stick a few big cities in places like Wyoming and the Dakotas and Montana, the Senate map would look a lot different.  How do we make this happen?

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3 minutes ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

We need to grow some liberal metro areas in low population red states.  If we can just stick a few big cities in places like Wyoming and the Dakotas and Montana, the Senate map would look a lot different.  How do we make this happen?

It's happening naturally. But it's the big red states where it'll happen first, I think.

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46 minutes ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

We need to grow some liberal metro areas in low population red states.  If we can just stick a few big cities in places like Wyoming and the Dakotas and Montana, the Senate map would look a lot different.  How do we make this happen?

Let's pool our money and start to take over a small town that has a great landscape and and is somewhat accessible.

I'm in.

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On 6/3/2019 at 10:23 AM, Juxtatarot said:

Done!

Congrats to our friends in Illinois. I was thinking that not only do 12 million people live in your state, but another 25-30 million live in the five bordering states. That's a big chunk of the midwest --- and the nation in general -- with easy and legal access to weed.

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6 minutes ago, roadkill1292 said:

Congrats to our friends in Illinois. I was thinking that not only do 12 million people live in your state, but another 25-30 million live in the five bordering states. That's a big chunk of the midwest --- and the nation in general -- with easy and legal access to weed.

They are going to lap Michigan and hopefully force them to accelerate their processes.  Looks like they'll (IL) be converting 55 retail stores strait from med to rec right at the beginning of the year.  If they pull it off that will be an impressive transition.   

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Ohio Accidentally Legalizes Marijuana

City Attorney Zach Klein says the decision is based on complications after the state legalized hemp.

On July 30, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine signed Senate Bill 57 into law.

It legalizes hemp in Ohio, giving Ohio farmers a new crop and new source of revenue.

The law changes the definition of marijuana to exclude hemp, based on the amount of THC — the chemical that gets you high.

A THC level of .3 percent or less is hemp and legal. A THC level of over .3 percent is marijuana, still illegal in Ohio.

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"Now we have to be able to distinguish the difference between hemp and marijuana," said Jason Pappas, Vice President of the Ohio Fraternal Order of Police. "That is not possible for a human being to do, that has to be done through crime analysis."

The problem is, most, if not all, crime labs in Ohio can only detect the presence of THC, not the quantity of it.

That includes the Columbus police lab and BCI state crime lab.

"Until these testing requirements are fixed and until we get some additional training and resources available to us, it's going to be very difficult to go after any marijuana cases in Ohio," he said.

Glenn McEntyre: "What's the end result of that, effectively?"

Jason Pappas: "You legalized marijuana in Ohio for a time being."

Glenn McEntyre: "That's what lawmakers have done?"

Jason Pappas: "That's what I see today."

Last week, Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost sent a letter to every prosecutor in the state, saying in part:

"BCI is in early... stages of validating... methods to meet this new legal requirement," something they say "may take several months."

In the meantime, BCI is recommending prosecutors: "Suspend identification of marijuana testing," and "Do not indict any cannabis-related items."

 

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4 hours ago, Jobber said:

Ohio Accidentally Legalizes Marijuana

City Attorney Zach Klein says the decision is based on complications after the state legalized hemp.

On July 30, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine signed Senate Bill 57 into law.

It legalizes hemp in Ohio, giving Ohio farmers a new crop and new source of revenue.

The law changes the definition of marijuana to exclude hemp, based on the amount of THC — the chemical that gets you high.

A THC level of .3 percent or less is hemp and legal. A THC level of over .3 percent is marijuana, still illegal in Ohio.

...

"Now we have to be able to distinguish the difference between hemp and marijuana," said Jason Pappas, Vice President of the Ohio Fraternal Order of Police. "That is not possible for a human being to do, that has to be done through crime analysis."

The problem is, most, if not all, crime labs in Ohio can only detect the presence of THC, not the quantity of it.

That includes the Columbus police lab and BCI state crime lab.

"Until these testing requirements are fixed and until we get some additional training and resources available to us, it's going to be very difficult to go after any marijuana cases in Ohio," he said.

Glenn McEntyre: "What's the end result of that, effectively?"

Jason Pappas: "You legalized marijuana in Ohio for a time being."

Glenn McEntyre: "That's what lawmakers have done?"

Jason Pappas: "That's what I see today."

Last week, Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost sent a letter to every prosecutor in the state, saying in part:

"BCI is in early... stages of validating... methods to meet this new legal requirement," something they say "may take several months."

In the meantime, BCI is recommending prosecutors: "Suspend identification of marijuana testing," and "Do not indict any cannabis-related items."

 

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Priceless

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 but he's right about marijuana being more dangerous than it used to be, very dangerous for pregnant women and for teens who are chemically unbalanced 

@timschochet - care to provide a link or a source?

You know TCH is only one chemical compound from the cannabis plant, right?   Yes, testing results are much higher, but there is cannabis out there where you get more stoned/high from something that might be 15% THC vs. another strain that might be 28% THC.  There is nothing more "dangerous" about cannabis now then there was decades ago.  Cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBG, CBN) plus terpenes plus flavonoids all go into producing both the psychological and physical reactions to the plant.  Plants are constantly being genetically modified to push / pull these numbers for these chemical compounds in all directions mostly for medical purposes.

You are spreading propaganda.  

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