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52 minutes ago, Osaurus said:

Were you interviewed by a reporter from WFLA about the stadium by chance?

I’d have tried to think of something more profound to say if I was. 

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8 hours ago, Eephus said:

The Rays haven't gone as far as to commit to even 15-20% of the cost, which seems customary these days.  All the talk about the stadium being a 365 days/year resource for the community would have me reaching to button up my pockets as quickly as possible.  Tampa/St. Pete doesn't have as many tourists to tax as Miami does and we all know how well that's working out down there.

They committed 150M a while back when the costs weren’t expected to be 900. I would expect them to commit 250. 

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The $900M price tag honestly has me feeling it's not realistic. Not sure how much longer Buckhorn is in office? And there are much larger city issues...water and transit to name two.  I'm not feeling very good about it coming in so high.

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21 minutes ago, gump said:

The $900M price tag honestly has me feeling it's not realistic. Not sure how much longer Buckhorn is in office? And there are much larger city issues...water and transit to name two.  I'm not feeling very good about it coming in so high.

Stu said after it could be brought down some if needed. 900 is absolutely outrageous, they must know that’s not possible. 

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I’m not for public support of stadiums (I mean maybe 10-15%) so if they leave they leave. I’ll be bummed out and would hate to see them go but Tampa is barely paying their teachers. Coming up with at least 650M for a notoriously cheap franchise isn’t appealing to me. 

But, I’m not a Tampa resident and I want to take my kid to some games so :shrug: 

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Tampa and St. Pete are in different counties, right?  Is there any history of joint funding of regional assets?

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5 minutes ago, Eephus said:

Tampa and St. Pete are in different counties, right?  Is there any history of joint funding of regional assets?

Yes. No. No history of working together at all actually, which is probably the biggest problem in this area. 

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Other than the oppressive summer heat and the hoards of dumb racists of course. Guess a lot of places have the latter though. 

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9 minutes ago, Capella said:

Other than the oppressive summer heat and the hoards of dumb racists of course. Guess a lot of places have the latter though. 

Don forget the gators.

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1 minute ago, Osaurus said:

Don forget the gators.

Assuming you are talking about their fans, I didn’t. 

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6 hours ago, Capella said:

Stu said after it could be brought down some if needed. 900 is absolutely outrageous, they must know that’s not possible. 

Flip the $300m translucent roof out for the current Trop cement one?

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8 hours ago, Capella said:

Other than the oppressive summer heat and the hoards of dumb racists of course. Guess a lot of places have the latter though. 

The heat is the reason for the permanent roof and then the permanent roof means artificial turf, right?

It's interesting to me seeing these new parks proposed/built (counting the new one in Texas as well) with permanent roofs and turf. 

On one hand, I get that the technology and what they can do is light years ahead of the ones built in the 70s/80s and so you can have a great design with lots of natural light but I guess I'm surprised that on the same hand they aren't at a point where they can easily incorporate natural grass within that technology as well.

I know they studied switching to real grass in Toronto as well and found it wasn't really feasible because of the necessary light and drainage but man, turf just seems so much harder on players joints and also baseball should be played on grass.  

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^^ yes and yes to your first questions. Like 2/3 of the night games here would have a rain delay of some sort IIRC. 

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As I’ve seen more and more stadiums I have to say any kind of a dome kind of sucks. I was at Atlanta’s place two weeks ago and it made me envious. Oh well. Climate here is untenable in the summer. 

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On 7/11/2018 at 11:00 PM, Capella said:

^^ yes and yes to your first questions. Like 2/3 of the night games here would have a rain delay of some sort IIRC. 

...or on a lucky night, no BP...it’s just not possible.

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Happy for Snell

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