Otis
Footballguy
If this is sarcasm, it's not as bad as you think. Certainly the chord progression is straightforward. As for the solos, maybe it's something to aspire to, but it's not shredder level.
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***OFFICIAL*** Guitar Guys Thread -- all axes, all the time (2 Viewers)
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If this is sarcasm, it's not as bad as you think. Certainly the chord progression is straightforward. As for the solos, maybe it's something to aspire to, but it's not shredder level.
Abraham
Footballguy
Yes, there is that. But they also teach a lot of theory without it being a pain. Learning jazz standards is a great way to (subconsciously) start learning about how certain chords relate to each other. Jazz also uses a wider variety of variations (particularly 7ths) than other styles.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Just a joke from the offdee fashion thread.I have no idea what this means.Oh, and by the way, that Marshall is a fridge stocked with beer. My favorite piece of stage gear.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
This is so freaking awesome.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
And furthermore, it's fascinating that even listening to something like Chopin is much different once you immerse yourself in jazz theory.
bigbottom
Footballguy
http://youtu.be/67EovwvJrC0And the knobs all go to 11.dickey moe said:bigbottom said:mad sweeney said:
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
bb, that's so cool. I'm jealous! What do you guys play, country, rock, mix? And does the guy on your left have a Tele that's for lefties but he restrung it Hendrix-style?
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Looks like a right handed guitar with a left handed neck strung for a rightie.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
You're right I think, upon another look. Even cooler.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
Seconded. Don't buy new. Go on CL or eBay and save a bunch of money on something like this.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Thirded. And the Pods are pretty cool.
bigbottom
Footballguy
It's actually a John Bolin custom. He's a luthier from Idaho who has done a bunch of customs for Billy Gibbons, as well as Jimmy Page, Keith Richards and others. Our other guitarist owns this Bolin guitar, which is pictured on the jacket for our EP: http://www.seymourduncan.com/news/newsletter/2008-winter/custom_guitar_s_4/ It's light as a feather. The far right guitar in the photos is a Fano, that our other guitarist modded by drilling a metal John Deere tractor label to the front: http://www.fanoguitars.com/altdefactoSP6.html
I'm playing a boring American Deluxe Strat.
As for the music, our originals are probably best characterized as southern blues rock. At our shows, we play covers ranging from country to classic rock.
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Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Awesome, just awesome. I recently thought about modding a Rick bass into a five-string but went in another direction after consulting with some luthiers.
An EP too! Now I'm even more jealous. Good luck with it, man.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Probably a thread for this, but since this one's up. Temporary hijack. Getting a first guitar for a 14 year old with 6 years of piano/keyboard lessons. Electric has been requested but not a must. Keep it under or very close to $500. What do I get? Amazon preferred. Thanks.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Weird, didn't see this before posting.
I saw Santana do BMW last weekend, so to unhijack, I offer to judge your efforts and not mention beginner guitars again.
Abraham
Footballguy
Get him an acoustic. Yamaha should make some decent stuff under $250. Tell him if he sticks with it for a year you will buy him an electric.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I got the XT Live floorboard off Ebay a couple of years ago and love it. Not sure how the newer HD pedalboards sound in comparison (I imagine they're a little better).
bigbottom
Footballguy
This is how my dad did it. And right at that same age (13 actually). Paid for lessons and gave me a year to learn. At the end of the year, I had to put on a "recital". I think I performed 5-6 songs. The next day he took me to the store and bought me an incredible American-made Strat that I still own today. It was a good approach.
For younger kids, however, like Fiddle's 7-year-old, an acoustic can be incredibly difficult to play. The action and string width requires a much greater degree of finger strength. The learning curve is higher, and thus kids give up at a greater rate when starting on an acoustic (totally anecdotal).
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Thanks for the Pod info. They seem affordable even new.
optionmaven
Footballguy
As for the music, our originals are probably best characterized as southern blues rock. At our shows, we play covers ranging from country to classic rock.
I suck at the quote feature, but when i saw the three guitarists, I immediately thought of Skynyrd and Molly Hatchett.
I suck at the quote feature, but when i saw the three guitarists, I immediately thought of Skynyrd and Molly Hatchett.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I have the Pocket POD that I use when I play with headphones. Pretty cool and the modeling is decent.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I was going along with this thinking yesterday and ordered an Epiphone PR 150 $140 acoustic knowing there was plenty in the budget to get her an electric also. Listened to it on Youtube and read several reviews from real players. Should be fine for a first guitar. Her middle school Concert Orchestra final concert was last night. Being a bad dad it was the first one I attended this year (missed two). She's so improved I offered to step up on a serious keyboard or piano, but she wants the electric guitar, and her teacher recommends it over the acoustic.bigbottom said:
It's all good. But my hyperfocus ADD has me lost in this topic since my post yesterday. Guitars are cool. I tried to learn to play in college but it was too hard for my interest level. That's probably changed. I am currently unemployed with nothing but time on my hands. I might be retired. I can't decide. I'm ordering a couple cheap guitars to modify and some parts and kits and stuff. I've pretty much got the order set but will listen if anyone has thoughts to offer.
What I need advice on is an amp. An amp my kid can use in her bedroom peacefully (headphones likely being key here). I looked into and listened to this 5 watt Bugera enough yesterday to feel safe getting one. There was a Fender that may make more sense. That would be about my max price ($200) for an amp.
I'm going to build some guitars and live Otis's dream of an early retirement for a couple months. I'm just going to do it on a Chinese knock off budget so low that even fancy brand hostile Oat would not approve.
Cheap decent amp?
bigbottom
Footballguy
Do you want the amp to have things like built in effects and a tuner? Honestly, I don't know much about small practice amps as I've never really researched them (my amps I've owned and use are likely bigger than your needs). My kid has both a small Orange solid state and a small Line 6, each under $200. They are both adequate and have the benefit of on board effects (distortion, chorus, flange, reverb, etc.) and a built-in tuner (very handy). But if you're after good tube tone, I imagine the stripped down 5w Bugera is a good way to go.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I don't know. No doubt the 500+ sounds available on her keyboard have kept her tinkling when the piano became boring. I love surf guitar and it's rubbed off an her, so reverb and old school tubes seemed fun. I'd like it to sound great at low volumes and keep her attention. I'm talking myself into getting two. The one I linked and something with more toys. Who knows, maybe we'll take lessons together this summer and need both.
My nephew bought a Gibson SG a few years ago and never touches it.
Abraham
Footballguy
For low budget and low volume, stay away from tube amps. You probably already knew that. The small Line 6 has a nice range of effects to play with. That would be my suggestion.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I didn't know that but it makes sense from what I read yesterday. Fwiw, the little 5w I linked has an attenuator that allows it to sound the same at any volume. Youtube confirms this, so maybe they've worked around the issue.
I should probably start a new thread or use the gmtan rather than keep hijacking this one, but I printed a Telecaster template and just disassembled a 50 year old Mahogany dresser. It's gonna be like the Red Violin I tell ya. I need a job.
bigbottom
Footballguy
You're not hijacking the thread. It started as a gear thread. Only later was it renamed to reference the group lesson idea.
Otis
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
Beautiful.
Otis
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
I'm in love with semi hollows these days. Going to add a Gibson and Heritage to the collection and stop there. Hang them on the wall in my mancave/home office/home studio one day. But yes I need to add back an acoustic one day, and also a nice PRS artist series. Maybe a strat just because. One day.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Just bought a Line 6 POD 2.0 box used on ebay for $100. Pretty good deal considering it retails new for over $200.
Otis
Footballguy
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
this thread inspired me to pick up my guitar; the finger arcing is tough for me too.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
Sounds like you might be a tinkerer?You can put together a linear volume pot very easily to act as a master volume override. So you can turn up the tube amp and get it to break up, etc. but actually keep the volume from blowing your ears out.I did this with my Fender Deluxe (which has a very sensitive volume control) so I could play at low volumes. We have a 1 year old boy. The parts are very cheap at Radio Shack, and its like 4 points of solder and some drilling. Very easy. Just a thought.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Serial tinkerer with $20k+ in tools. I once owned an RV repair shop, lost the business, kept the tools.
Thanks for the idea. I ordered a solid state amp yesterday, but this sounds interesting for later if we really get into this.
The Epiphone acoustic for the kid will be here tomorrow. First lesson is Thursday. I bought her this fake Strat for $90. Reading the reviews sold me on that cheapie over a dozen other cheapies. Better reviewers think the bridge is the weakness. I found a used but never played Fender branded bridge and tuners off a Mexican Strat for $30. I chose a Fender Mustang I amp for $100. So I set her up with more than expected just under $500. An upgraded set of single coil pickups may be needed (Youtube listening for hours and hours on these Chinese instruments).
For me, I took apart the old dresser (my departed dad's btw) and brought the wood to a shop for jointing. I glued up two solid body sized blanks of pure mahogany, two with half inch ash middles, and I have two 1.5 inch thick one piecers that should work with quarter inch maple tops. 5 will cure for now. One of the ash combos will be my first attempt at a Tele (soon as next week). I purchased an ashtray bridge cut for a humbucker, these pickups, gonna hold out for an ebony neck and the other bits. This should be fun. My hope is to copy John 5's from the vid here. Keeping it relatively simple.
Thursday I wouldn't have understood what I just typed.
Let me know when you're ready for that Strat, Otis.
It was this or keep building firearms.
(or getting a job)
