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1 hour ago, menobrown said:

Apparently Bill Simmons was on some radio show yesterday saying Edelman as about to get traded to Detroit. I don't know that Bill has ever broke an NFL news story so feel free to take it with a grain of salt.

While it wouldn't shock me it would surprise me if the Lions traded for Edelman, I mean what role is he going to be, they already have Amendola in the slot.

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Another one that, as currently constituted, would be nearly impossible if it was only Edelman involved. If NE traded him now, they would take on an $8.3 million dead cap hit. Depending upon what source is used, NE has either $2.1 million (Spotrac) or $900,000 (Over The Cap) in remaining cap space. They would have to eat that right away, which means they would have to free up that much in cap space first. If they waited until after June 1st, it would cost them less (but still $5.7 million). Long story short, getting rid of Edelman would get them $1.3 million in cap space . . . but it would earn them $8.3 million in cap money to do it (which as of now they cannot legally do).

IMO, they would have to include Thuney in order to pull this one off. If NE were to also include a pick or two, that MIGHT get them Detroit's #3 pick in the draft to take a QB(Tua?) . . . which would be the only way I see this potential trade having legs. And that would spell the end of the Stidham era before it even got started. That's the only thing that I could see in play here, and I am not sure either team would do it.

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1 hour ago, menobrown said:

A shaky source but no, it was not an Aprils Fool's joke.

Someone tweeted out something similar yesterday (not Bill Simmons, maybe someone who heard his podcast) and I immediately just assumed it was April Fool's.  Just seems unlikely but I guess anything's possible.

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33 minutes ago, Foosball God said:

While it wouldn't shock me it would surprise me if the Lions traded for Edelman, I mean what role is he going to be, they already have Amendola in the slot.

I don't think Amendola is in the same ballpark of the player Edelman is and Edelman offers inside/outside versatility which might be appealing to a team that I think would like to move Marvin Jones. Plus Amendola not likely to make it through a season.

But again, it's a weak source and while I think Edelman would not mind getting out I'm not sure Bill is in such a hurry to let him go and I don't think he'd draw back a ton in a trade.

 

19 minutes ago, Tool said:

Someone tweeted out something similar yesterday (not Bill Simmons, maybe someone who heard his podcast) and I immediately just assumed it was April Fool's.  Just seems unlikely but I guess anything's possible.

Someone tweeted out that Edelman was signed by Lions earlier in the day which was a joke and of course that's not possible since he's not a FA.  That's not what Simmons was referring to but sounded to me like both he and Cowherd were just spitballing more then some kind of credible source providing them info.

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NBC Sports Boston's Tom Curran does not expect the Patriots to trade Julian Edelman. 

With Tom Brady gone and Edelman going on 34, there has been loose chatter that he might be dealt, but Edelman remains extremely affordable while the Pats are still woefully undermanned in their receiver corps. Trading Edelman would only make sense if the Pats were committed to tanking, and that does not seem like coach Bill Belichick's style. Even considering Belichick's "one year too early" habit of moving on, Edelman should be safe in Boston.   

SOURCE: NBC Sports Boston 

Apr 2, 2020, 7:57 PM ET

 

 

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ESPN's Mike Reiss reports Julian Edelman will not be prosecuted in his misdemeanor vandalism case. 

An intoxicated Edelman damaged a Mercedes Benz's hood by jumping on it in Beverly Hills in January. "The owner of the vehicle said he has been fully compensated for the repair costs," the court reported. It was an embarrassingly juvenile incident for a 33-year-old grown man, but it should have no bearing on Edelman's 2020 status, either with the Pats or league. 

SOURCE: Mike Reiss on Twitter 

Apr 9, 2020, 2:52 PM ET

 

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There was a heated discussion on the radio this morning as to whether Edelman is a HOFer, could do anything to become a HOFer, or has no chance to be a HOFer. I fall in the last category as he's never been selected to a Pro Bowl, ranks 76th in total receptions, 170th in receiving yards, and only has 36 career TD.

Those saying he should be a HOFer pointed to him winning 3 SB's, ranking 2nd all time in post season receptions and receiving yardage, and making the greatest catch in SB history (in their eyes). They also brought up that he was the career leader in punt return average (which was true at one point but he has tailed off the last few years and has dropped to 17th in that category).

The middle option (he can still make it) suggested that with two big seasons without Brady and he would get in (but they didn't specify what "great" meant). Given that to me JE has never had a truly great season, I doubt that part would happen given that he is 34 years old already. (His career best in each receiving category is 105-1117-7.)

Bottom line, at least to me, I don't see Edelman having a case for the HOF. Are there folks here that think he has any chance? His PFR HOF Monitor score is 35.35 (110th among WR, average HOF WR is 106.20).

 

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1 hour ago, Anarchy99 said:

There was a heated discussion on the radio this morning as to whether Edelman is a HOFer, could do anything to become a HOFer, or has no chance to be a HOFer. I fall in the last category as he's never been selected to a Pro Bowl, ranks 76th in total receptions, 170th in receiving yards, and only has 36 career TD.

Those saying he should be a HOFer pointed to him winning 3 SB's, ranking 2nd all time in post season receptions and receiving yardage, and making the greatest catch in SB history (in their eyes). They also brought up that he was the career leader in punt return average (which was true at one point but he has tailed off the last few years and has dropped to 17th in that category).

The middle option (he can still make it) suggested that with two big seasons without Brady and he would get in (but they didn't specify what "great" meant). Given that to me JE has never had a truly great season, I doubt that part would happen given that he is 34 years old already. (His career best in each receiving category is 105-1117-7.)

Bottom line, at least to me, I don't see Edelman having a case for the HOF. Are there folks here that think he has any chance? His PFR HOF Monitor score is 35.35 (110th among WR, average HOF WR is 106.20).

 

He should have zero chance to be in the HoF - but Patriot media bias may get him in.

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

He should have zero chance to be in the HoF - but Patriot media bias may get him in.

A topic a different day was that there have been relatively few Patriots players that have made the HOF from the first SB teams and if more candidates will emerge as candidates and get in (like Ty Law). Maybe Edelman gets some play when discussing the second part of the NE run, but to me he still really doesn't have a great case. He strikes me as the type the veterans committee likes (but that would be many years down the road).

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Ryan Hannable @RyanHannable

Julian Edelman is certainly dealing with something early in camp. Was limited Tuesday and then after an incompletion from Newton in 4vs3 drills early in practice he threw his helmet and then went to trainer. Took one rep rest of practice and spent most of it on one knee.

https://twitter.com/ryanhannable/status/1296464882280341507?s=21

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Julian Edelman (knee) was limited in Wednesday's practice.

There's no concern about Edelman's availability for the Week 1 opener against the Dolphins this Sunday. He'll be a rock-solid target-hog WR2 for that matchup.

SOURCE: Ben Volin on Twitter

Sep 9, 2020, 4:30 PM ET

 

 

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Patriots QB Cam Newton is frequently targeting WR Julian Edelman in practices. 

Beat writer Jeff Howe reports a "strong connection" between the veterans. Edelman has led all pass catchers in targets during recent practices. Newton, per Howe, has also checked down to running backs quite a bit. The 33rd wideout off the draft board in 12-team leagues, Edelman was largely written off by fantasy managers this summer. He could be in line for another year of massive target volume thanks in part to the Patriots having one of the NFL's worst receiver groups. While N'Keal Harry has shown some deep ball chemistry with Newton in Patriots practices, his production will probably be volatile this year. 

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N'Keal Harry

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Sep 10, 2020, 10:03 AM ET

 

 

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On 8/12/2020 at 10:27 AM, Anarchy99 said:

There was a heated discussion on the radio this morning as to whether Edelman is a HOFer, could do anything to become a HOFer, or has no chance to be a HOFer. I fall in the last category as he's never been selected to a Pro Bowl, ranks 76th in total receptions, 170th in receiving yards, and only has 36 career TD.

Those saying he should be a HOFer pointed to him winning 3 SB's, ranking 2nd all time in post season receptions and receiving yardage, and making the greatest catch in SB history (in their eyes). They also brought up that he was the career leader in punt return average (which was true at one point but he has tailed off the last few years and has dropped to 17th in that category).

The middle option (he can still make it) suggested that with two big seasons without Brady and he would get in (but they didn't specify what "great" meant). Given that to me JE has never had a truly great season, I doubt that part would happen given that he is 34 years old already. (His career best in each receiving category is 105-1117-7.)

Bottom line, at least to me, I don't see Edelman having a case for the HOF. Are there folks here that think he has any chance? His PFR HOF Monitor score is 35.35 (110th among WR, average HOF WR is 106.20).

Yes Lynn Swann is probably a template for Edelman to have remote chance and that's all he will have as he should be fading before the time his regular season stats are sniffing hall of fame range ie  10K yards.

 

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Pro Bowl bids is a garbage criterion because that selection process is a popularity contest.

But I don’t see Edelman as HOF. The numbers don’t show he was among the very elite at his position at any point in his career. 

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Evan Lazar @ezlazar

Interesting nugget about Julian Edelman's usage yesterday: he was only on the field for 17 of 42 run plays, per @PFF. But was on the field for 20 of Cam's 22 drop-backs. So basically the #Patriots gave him a breather on runs. His usage in passing situations was the same as usual.

https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1305593464374128640?s=21

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Julian Edelman caught 8-of-11 targets for 179 yards in Week 2 against Seattle.

The receiving yards were a career high. Edelman got open deep for a 49-yard catch but was tackled just short of the goal-line. The lack of touchdowns have been a disappointment, but this was a step forward for Edelman after he was held to 57 scoreless yards last week. With Cam Newton playing well, Edelman is looking like a high-end WR3.

Sep 21, 2020, 12:10 AM ET

 

 

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I came so close to benching him because it was a night game and I had no back up if he sat.. Was concerned he'd not play or be a decoy. And, early on, it looked like he was. Worked out, though. :thumbup:

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1 minute ago, Mystery Achiever said:

I came so close to benching him because it was a night game and I had no back up if he sat.. Was concerned he'd not play or be a decoy. And, early on, it looked like he was. Worked out, though. :thumbup:

Went through exactly the same.  Kept him in bc I had no reasonable alternative and it was looking bad for a lot of the game.

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Is anyone taking a chance on leaving him in the lineup?
Sounds like he's expected to play (per Ian R), but there are still the issues of who is throwing to him and whether the game actually happens tomorrow.

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1 hour ago, Mystery Achiever said:

Is anyone taking a chance on leaving him in the lineup?
Sounds like he's expected to play (per Ian R), but there are still the issues of who is throwing to him and whether the game actually happens tomorrow.

I benched him for Gallup.

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1 hour ago, Mystery Achiever said:

Is anyone taking a chance on leaving him in the lineup?
Sounds like he's expected to play (per Ian R), but there are still the issues of who is throwing to him and whether the game actually happens tomorrow.

Benched for Cooks. But I think good chance he plays. 

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I do, too and I think he'll be ok with Hoyer being named starter. I'm still afraid of someone testing positive in the morning, so  benched him for Beasley.
 

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Julian Edelman caught 3-of-6 targets for 35 yards in New England's Week 4 loss to Kansas City.

Monday was arguably Edelman's least impressive performance of the last decade, nearly totaling as many drops (2) as he had catches (3). Special teams ace Gunner Olszewski was in the right spot at the right time for Edelman's first drop, but Chiefs S Tyrann Mathieu housed the second one to give Kansas City a three-score lead. 34-year-old Edelman is admittedly a low-ceiling option until Cam Newton (COVID) returns.

Oct 5, 2020, 10:16 PM ET

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Julian Edelman caught 1-of-3 targets for 13 yards in the Patriots' Week 7 loss to the 49ers. 

Edelman spent far more time spiking tablets and his helmet than catching passes in this one. He didn't catch a single pass from Cam Newton before Newton was benched for Jarrett Stidham. He now has seven receptions over the Pats' past three games. Fantasy managers can certainly do better than Edelman in 12-team leagues, and in leagues with shallow benches, he can be dropped for someone with more upside.

- Rotoworld

 

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The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports Julian Edelman (knee) is expected to miss "some game action."

Edelman's knee injury has made him a non-factor over the past month, totaling eight catches for 79 yards in that span. Jakobi Meyers looked much more explosive off the bench last week, recording 4/60 on six targets from Cam Newton. Meyers should be added immediately in 14-team leagues whereas Edelman can be universally dropped in every format.

SOURCE: Jeff Howe on Twitter

Oct 29, 2020, 12:58 PM ET

 

 

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Patriots WR Julian Edelman had a knee procedure and will miss this week's game against the Bills. 

ESPN's Adam Schefter said Edelman will be out for "some period of time," a perfectly vague phrase for an aged veteran coming off a procedure on a knee that has long bothered him. Edelman hasn't been fantasy relevant since the season's first few weeks, even in one of the league's worst wide receiver groups. While New England's offense should be avoided by fantasy players, those desperate for viable Week 8 wideout option might turn to N'Keal Harry (concussion), who hasn't practiced this week, or Jakobi Meyers, who led the Patriots in targets last week. Edelman can be dropped in 12-team leagues with short benches. He should've been dropped weeks ago in 10-team formats. 

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Jakobi Meyers

, N'Keal Harry

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Oct 29, 2020, 1:17 PM ET

 

 

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Mid-30's, dependent on quickness, knee problems, has rings. Kinda wonder if this might be the end for him.

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droppable in redraft unless you're hurting or have deep benches.

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15 minutes ago, travdogg said:

Mid-30's, dependent on quickness, knee problems, has rings. Kinda wonder if this might be the end for him.

 

4 minutes ago, Deamon said:

droppable in redraft unless you're hurting or have deep benches.

I just dropped him in my dynasty league for Callaway. I think he's done.

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5 minutes ago, kutta said:

 

I just dropped him in my dynasty league for Callaway. I think he's done.

damn.

Don't see him in Tampa next year? lol

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3 minutes ago, Deamon said:

damn.

Don't see him in Tampa next year? lol

lol - that would be interesting...

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Julian Edelman (knee) is likely to be placed on injured reserve.

Edelman has a "bone-on-bone" knee injury. It's something that would be a bigger concern if 34-year-old Edelman wasn't so late into his career. Edelman is out this week and likely looking at a multi-game absence. The Patriots could also be without N'Keal Harry (concussion) in Week 8.

SOURCE: NFL Network

Oct 30, 2020, 10:05 AM ET

 

 

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6 hours ago, Faust said:


 

 

Hope they do so before Sunday kickoffs so I can put him on my league IR and pick someone up.  (Yes I realize BB doesn't care)

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I'd just like some clarity so I decide whether to hold. Or is it crazy to hope that it was only his knee behind his performance other than that one week?

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1 hour ago, Casting Couch said:

total warrior. unfortunately I think it's over.

Yep riding the bench, didn't see this one working out so poorly.  

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Did ya see Cam has only thrown three passes to the right the last two games? I can't retell the rest of the stats for the season but it totally read like Cam played typical football for 2-3 weeks and then decided only to throw left. 

I don't know if he took a bad hit, if he took some Belichick words a bit too far...I've never seen such a thing. Anyway, Edelman is not done. (I mean he could always retire but based on his play) He's been open plenty and he's not even getting looked at. He's been mister professional for weeks and just snapped after a while. He is so frustrated. Ya gotta go to gamepass before y'all give up on him. He still looks the same to me, a Welker-ish pain in the neck to cover. 

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Julian Edelman (knee) hasn't been cleared to practice.

Coach Bill Belichick said Wednesday Edelman is "definitely headed in the right direction." The Patriots are calling Edelman day to day, but returning this week seems like a longshot. Edelman hasn't played or practiced since going down in Week 7.

SOURCE: Boston Globe

Nov 25, 2020, 10:33 AM ET

 

 

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