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You must feel optimistic about Coronavirus to believe that we might not hit new lows.  Personally, I think Coronavirus has a lot more in store for us.  So do you ever run into Oprah in Pewaukee?
I don't envision a lot of unexpected bad news.  Bad earnings the next couple of quarters aren't going to surprise anybody.

Not Oprah, but I do see J.J. Watt every now and then...

 
@gruecd I agree on the lows.  That's done and so last month.  Fed won't allow a re-test so why bother fighting them on it.  Seems like most of the WS talking heads have let that set in too and are just skipping 2020 and going right into 2021.  As long as companies don't go BK, they get a free pass and a year+ to prove they can make money again.

 
 OK. I'm diggin this classic "Bear market rally" then.

Earnings reports going to halt this? ... or does the bear rally just keep going?
Once it sucks everyone in and they change from 'waiting for a retest of the lows' to 'TO THE MOON!!!', then it falls apart.

 
Ned Beatty recommends the former over the latter.  And owning a second house is for suckers.  It's like having a second job.
I figured we'd pay a rental company, and I don't mind working on the house a bit.  But I want flexibility and any house or condo we'd want will cost more in maintenance than I want to pay unless we're killing it in rentals.  Buying was more the wife's dream than mine.

Fed put, unlimited type.

That's what is driving this and it won't stop.  More will be poured in to fill the hole, as much as necessary.
Inflation can suck eventually. 

Yup...only buy a second home if you like spending your vacation doing chores.
I get it, pretty much agree. 

 
@gruecd I agree on the lows.  That's done and so last month.  Fed won't allow a re-test so why bother fighting them on it.  Seems like most of the WS talking heads have let that set in too and are just skipping 2020 and going right into 2021.  As long as companies don't go BK, they get a free pass and a year+ to prove they can make money again.
I think this is where many of us got it "wrong". 

Without turning this into a political thread, we've gotten to corporate socialism. 

 
I figured we'd pay a rental company, and I don't mind working on the house a bit.  But I want flexibility and any house or condo we'd want will cost more in maintenance than I want to pay unless we're killing it in rentals.  Buying was more the wife's dream than mine.

Inflation can suck eventually. 

I get it, pretty much agree. 
My rental company has figured out a way to legalize rape and still insists that i say thank you afterwards.

 
I guess if you like cydy this is a time to buy? I just don’t know enough about it to be totally confident at this price. 

 
Is that sarcasm? Not sure why you want to buy the top. I know you jumped out a little later than a lot of folks (not me, I pretty much didn't jump at all). Have you really bought back in and when did you? Are you planning on staying long?
Not sure if the top, but I have an uncanny ability to have terrible timing. Doesn't matter when I chose it would be wrong, so why not.  This can easily keep going up.  Bought back in yesterday and this morning.

I've just resigned myself to follow the market where she goes in a conservative allocation.  Only thing I bought that was speculative was DAL for a long term hold.

 
All my Covid19 plays are up on the day except for cydy.  Something fishy with that.
In an odd way it might make sense.  CYDY seems to be working and actually helping people.  In traditional market reactions, like back in the old days, that would make the stock rise or hold.  But not these new markets.  It's like my kid's "new math" in school.  Can't just multiply numbers in your head anymore.  You have to draw out squares and circles and shade in some to the point it gets so f'n confusing you just give up and accept the answer the Fed teacher wants.  

 
Not sure if the top, but I have an uncanny ability to have terrible timing. Doesn't matter when I chose it would be wrong, so why not.  This can easily keep going up.  Bought back in yesterday and this morning.

I've just resigned myself to follow the market where she goes in a conservative allocation.  Only thing I bought that was speculative was DAL for a long term hold.
Gotcha. Good luck. I do think we could be reaching a top here. I have heard so much bad news tied in with the we won't retest the bottom optimism that I feel like retesting the bottom is inevitable based on the unbelievable optimism tied with the unemployment/small business hits/entire industries getting killed (not just travel and restaurants, but hospitals and everyone servicing these industries). I think the recovery will happen, but the markets had already had a huge run up so I can't imagine that right now or even looking ahead we should be retesting the all time highs. Oh well, I have 88% invested (not including 401ks) right now so I'm enjoying the ride but I am very skittish. I rode out the 35% drop and I don't want to do it again.

 
The short interest in CYDY is still very strong.  There's still no borrow available, which indicates a lot of force against this one.  For all the believers in this one (myself included) there are legions of investors betting against it.  As of March 31, there were over 7mm shares short on this one.  2.7mm on Dec. 31.  It's a headwind for sure.

 
All my Covid19 plays are up on the day except for cydy.  Something fishy with that.
Are they all OTC stocks that are pretty easy to manipulate on the short side? Do they have "new" good news?

I wish I didn't add to my stake last week. Still up $13k, but lost a bit in the last week. Unfortunately, most of the biotech stocks had those run ups and the ones, unlike CYDY, that were more about PR and not actual good news went back down. CYDY has had legitimately good news so it's held up, but it seems like it is in a holding pattern until the next real news.

 
Stephanie Link pimping WFC.....she has been in this dog for years.....and still pimping it and still getting her clock cleaned in it. 

She is full of **** big time. Never listen to her. 

 
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https://content.equisolve.net/_7bdf444ef2b4daaec17d4324fda3a32a/cytodyn/news/2020-04-13_CytoDyn_Appoints_Scott_A_Kelly_M_D_as_Chief_414.pdf

VANCOUVER, Washington, April 13, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The Board of Directors (the “Board”) of CytoDyn Inc. (OTC.QB: CYDY), (“CytoDyn” or the “Company"), a late-stage biotechnology company developing leronlimab (PRO 140), a CCR5 antagonist with the potential for multiple therapeutic indications, appointed Scott A. Kelly, M.D. as Chief Medical Officer and Head of Business Development for the Company
So they let us know that they call their Board of Directors "the Board" and call CytoDyn "the Company" in the press release announcing the hiring of  Scott not the astronaut Kelly.  Kind of strange and amateurish for them to let us know their nicknames for their board and company. And calling themselves "the Company" is ridiculous.   Do they want the public to call CytoDyn "the Company"?  Boe Rimes, the supposedly unaffiliated guy who wrote the Microcapdaily article, calls CytoDyn "the Company" three times in his article.  He capitalizes "Company" each time.  My guess is that the same person wrote both the press release and that article.

https://microcapdaily.com/why-cytodyn-inc-otcmktscydy-holds-all-the-cards/125665/

The Company has been granted a “fast-track” designation for two potential uses of leronlimab.

More than 25 hospitals, to date, have requested participation in the Company’s trials.

CYDY is making big moves after the Company became one of the first biotechs to......

 
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So they let us know that they call their Board of Directors "the Board" and call CytoDyn "the Company" in the press release announcing the hiring of  Scott not the astronaut Kelly.  Kind of strange and amateurish for them to let us know their nicknames for their board and company. And calling themselves "the Company" is ridiculous.   Do they want the public to call CytoDyn "the Company"?  Boe Rimes, the supposedly unaffiliated guy who wrote the Microcapdaily article, calls CytoDyn "the Company" three times in his article.  He capitalizes "Company" each time.  My guess is that the same person wrote both the press release and that article.
What in the world are you talking about?  Defining phrases like ABC Corporation (“the Company”) and The Board of Directors (“the Board”) is about as standard practice as you’ll find. 
 

And where is the astronaut reference?

 
Stephanie Link pimping WFC.....she has been in this dog for years.....and still pimping it and still getting her clock cleaned in it. 

She is full of **** big time. Never listen to her. 
Is she nibbling in it here? Love how they’re all usually ultra long but still find cash to nibble on stuff. 

 
What in the world are you talking about?  Defining phrases like ABC Corporation (“the Company”) and The Board of Directors (“the Board”) is about as standard practice as you’ll find. 
 

And where is the astronaut reference?
Their new CMO shares his name with Scott Kelly the astronaut. They were correct in informing the public that it is not the astronaut.

 
So they let us know that they call their Board of Directors "the Board" and call CytoDyn "the Company" in the press release announcing the hiring of  Scott not the astronaut Kelly.  Kind of strange and amateurish for them to let us know their nicknames for their board and company. And calling themselves "the Company" is ridiculous.   Do they want the public to call CytoDyn "the Company"?  Boe Rimes, the supposedly unaffiliated guy who wrote the Microcapdaily article, calls CytoDyn "the Company" three times in his article.  He capitalizes "Company" each time.  My guess is that the same person wrote both the press release and that article.
That's just standard financialese for press releases.  I wouldn't read too much into that.  

 
All my Covid19 plays are up on the day except for cydy.  Something fishy with that.
I mean what are your other Covid 19 plays? I presume it’s WFH and quarantine stuff like AMZN, ZM, ROKU, NFLX, etc? In that sense, CYDY is the opposite since if CYDY is the cure, we can all go out and those stocks won’t see as big a benefit as people think. It’s also a small biotech stock with a binary outcome as it relates to covid. Either it works or it doesn’t. And even if it does, other drugs could also work. I bought a little for the optionality if it works for covid but also have the other indications as a fall back. 

 
I guess if you like cydy this is a time to buy? I just don’t know enough about it to be totally confident at this price. 
I added a nice chunk (for me) at 2.51 with the plans to throw a trailing stop loss in once it crosses 2.75ish range. 

 
I added a nice chunk (for me) at 2.51 with the plans to throw a trailing stop loss in once it crosses 2.75ish range. 
Put a buy in (always using limit) at $2.50. only another $500, which pretty much takes me out until next pay day (or stimulus comes through). 

 
But why is Boe Rimes capitalizing "Company"?  It shouldn't be capitalized.  It is capitalized in both articles.  Same author.
It's very common in the industry.  Instead of using the word CytoDyn Inc in the article, they're using "Company" as a replacement term.  So it should be capitalized as you would capitalize CytoDyn.  Think of the word "Company" as a placeholder.  

 

 
But why is Boe Rimes capitalizing "Company"?  It shouldn't be capitalized.  It is capitalized in both articles.  Same author.
One is a press release.  If they want to define CytoDyn as “The Company” so that they don’t have to say CytoDyn a hundred times, then it positively would be capitalized.  
 

The other is an article.  You’ll have to ask the author why they did the same.  
 

But to be up in arms about it is nonsensical.
 

 
But why is Boe Rimes capitalizing "Company"?  It shouldn't be capitalized.  It is capitalized in both articles.  Same author.
Here's a press release I just pulled at random:

THE VALENS COMPANY BEGINS PRODUCTION OF HAND SANITIZER TO HELP COMBAT COVID-19 PANDEMIC

The Valens Company to begin production and bottling of 1,300 litres of hand sanitizer liquid at its Kelowna facility.

The Company will distribute 40,000 sanitizer bottles to frontline healthcare workers in Canada.

Significant quantities of PPE Gear has been donated, including gloves, gowns and sanitizing wipes, with a second shipment of masks expected soon.

 Kelowna, B.C., April X, 2020 – Valens GroWorks Corp. (TSXV: VLNS) (OTCQX: VLNCF) (the “Company”, “Valens” or “The Valens Company”), a global leader in the end-to-end development and manufacturing of innovative, cannabinoid-based products, today announced that it will begin production of hand sanitizer liquid with an initial 1,300 litre-batch at its Kelowna facility to help alleviate product supply shortages as a result of the COVID-19 health crisis.

The Valens Company will bottle and donate 40,000 bottles of hand sanitizer in various formats to frontline health care workers across Canada. The Company is focusing on British Columbia, Alberta and Ontario for distribution, as well as providing 10,000 units to Shoppers Drug Mart to aid their public-facing workers at pharmacies across Canada. Simultaneously, the company is working with hospital networks, all essential services and various associations servicing the vulnerable, to distribute supplies to those who need it most.

Valens has also donated significant quantities of various personal protective equipment (PPE) such as gloves, gowns, and sanitizing wipes from the Company’s existing supply. The Company is also expecting a second shipment of PPE gear, including masks, which will also be donated to healthcare workers.

“We at The Valens Company recognize the urgency in assisting our communities across the country during this critical phase of the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Tyler Robson, CEO, The Valens Company. “We consider it our corporate responsibility to leverage our existing extraction and production capabilities to distribute products that have the potential to fight the transmission of this virus. We are quickly mobilizing our teams and resources to alleviate essential supply shortages and contribute as much as we can to those selflessly helping on the frontlines.”

 
Here's a press release I just pulled at random:
I'm wrong.  I thought it wasn't normally capitalized.  I still think that the Microcapdaily article was written by CytoDyn.  I don't like that they'd write an article about themselves and claim to have no affiliation at the end of the article.

 
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I'm wrong.  I thought is wasn't normally capitalized.  I still think that the Microcapdaily article was written by CytoDyn.  I don't like that they'd write an article about themselves and claim to have no affiliation at the end of the article.
Well, if you're NOT accustomed to reading these things, consider yourself lucky. ;)   It's just standard operating procedure.

 
lod001 said:
JPM and WFC report earnings in the morning. Should be bad. Market should rally 5%.
Both JPM and WFC setting aside the largest loan loss reserves in over a decade, 5x what they did last quarter. Market up almost 3%.

 
I honestly don't understand what most of you are saying and I feel pretty knowledgeable about this stuff.

I pulled our money from our funds at the right time. Missed the big drop thankfully. Trying to gauge when the time to buy back in is. Did I miss it? IS now the time?

 
But why is Boe Rimes capitalizing "Company"?  It shouldn't be capitalized.  It is capitalized in both articles.  Same author.
Have you never read a press release? Or a contact? Or a legal document of any kind? 

Edit: saw your most recent response so never mind. 

 
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I mean what are your other Covid 19 plays? I presume it’s WFH and quarantine stuff like AMZN, ZM, ROKU, NFLX, etc? In that sense, CYDY is the opposite since if CYDY is the cure, we can all go out and those stocks won’t see as big a benefit as people think. It’s also a small biotech stock with a binary outcome as it relates to covid. Either it works or it doesn’t. And even if it does, other drugs could also work. I bought a little for the optionality if it works for covid but also have the other indications as a fall back. 
ALT, VBIV, DGX

ETA - cydy isn't really a covid play for me, but I wouldn't mind a cover bounce from here.

 
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I honestly don't understand what most of you are saying and I feel pretty knowledgeable about this stuff.

I pulled our money from our funds at the right time. Missed the big drop thankfully. Trying to gauge when the time to buy back in is. Did I miss it? IS now the time?


How did you know when was the right time to pull the money? 

 
I honestly don't understand what most of you are saying and I feel pretty knowledgeable about this stuff.

I pulled our money from our funds at the right time. Missed the big drop thankfully. Trying to gauge when the time to buy back in is. Did I miss it? IS now the time?
You only made a mistake if you buy back in at a higher price. So if it's getting to your sell point, get back in before it hits that mark.  If you wait until then, why bother selling in the 1st place Should have just left it alone. But if you even get in 1% lower, you just outperformed 90% of the rest of investors. This was about the easiest market timing ever gifted to anyone.

Everyone should have jumped out for a day at least in late Feb, early March.

 
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You only made a mistake if you buy back in at a higher price. So if it's getting to your sell point, get back in before it hits that mark.  If you wait until then, why bother selling in the 1st place Should have just left it alone. But if you even get in 1% lower, you just outperformed 90% of the rest of investors. This was about the easiest market timing ever gifted to anyone.

Everyone should have jumped out for a day at least in late Feb, early March.
Jumped out at 29. Today 24. 

 
Jumped out at 29. Today 24. 
So if you get back in, you just outperformed the majority of investors and all the buy and hold ones in that. That is how I look at it. Anytime you get the gift of being able to scalp 1% or more (in your case) vs the buy & hold guys, you take it.

Once this recession/virus is over, that 'gift' is gone and then it's buy and hold for S&P 4000 for me.

 
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He didn't kill himself did he?
We lost a guy in the old Bitcoin thread. Dude was early, way before the 20k run up, but got involved in some awful web site that was trying to be a marketplace. I assume he took a huge bath on that and then missed the huge run up. I don't know if it's true, but there were some posts that he was LHUCKS, the guy who called the top before the S&P went on to triple. He was definitely on the short side, so him not posting in here might indicate that he's taken it in the shorts.

 
Anyone buy into Appian thoughts on it?  I'm hearing great things about this company. I think some were down in it here. 
I own some, was up a nice amount before the drop and close to even now. I subscribe to the Motley Fool for a couple things as well. Seems like a decent long term play, but as with everything right now, I am a bit more skittish on almost everything I own except ZM (I got in that in the 60s, so already happy), AMZN and ROKU. I like some others, but I don't know how much the current environment/fundamental changes in the way people live will affect them. I think ZM, AMZN and ROKU's addressable markets are bigger now than before CV. If the market retests lows, those three will handle things much better than Appian.

 
How did you know when was the right time to pull the money? 


The reason I asked is because you really didn't know. You got lucky and that's great. Just like when to put money back in. You won't know the correct time. Hopefully you get lucky again.

 
Food for thought if this is just a bear market rally the 25% gain would be the largest "bear market rally" ever recorded.
:thumbup:

... you're making my point sir.

Not many folks want to believe the bear market ended ... what with the body count .. and all of the small business closures and such.

... and I believe 20% is where they consider it to be a "Bull market". Strange that people will not concede.

 
We lost a guy in the old Bitcoin thread. Dude was early, way before the 20k run up, but got involved in some awful web site that was trying to be a marketplace. I assume he took a huge bath on that and then missed the huge run up. I don't know if it's true, but there were some posts that he was LHUCKS, the guy who called the top before the S&P went on to triple. He was definitely on the short side, so him not posting in here might indicate that he's taken it in the shorts.
Wait, how do you know we lost a guy?  Seems like the only you would know would be if a friend of his in real life was also a poster and relayed the news. 

 
We lost a guy in the old Bitcoin thread. Dude was early, way before the 20k run up, but got involved in some awful web site that was trying to be a marketplace. I assume he took a huge bath on that and then missed the huge run up. I don't know if it's true, but there were some posts that he was LHUCKS, the guy who called the top before the S&P went on to triple. He was definitely on the short side, so him not posting in here might indicate that he's taken it in the shorts.
Jojo the circus boy?

 

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