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Thought the onion was going to bounce back this morning  :kicksrock:

I’ve got 2600 shares I need to break 11 so I can move it into something more stable. 
I was typing as you posted!  I don't have that many, but yes, I'm wanting 11 so I can sell and use elsewhere.  

 
I'd not be opposed.  Miss seeing more of the other stock talk, but understandable that the last day's activity took up a lot of discussion in here.  Am curious about value other folks see in the broader market now though.
I’veheld back on these discussions but I don’t see much value in the market right now. Other than my 401k which I don’t mess with (no market timing there) I am basically 100% invested in CYDY and puts on casinos/airlines.
 

I feel that this market is on the brink of a huge drop and more shutdowns being announced is going to push it over the edge. The California Governor has a press conference I believe at 4 today and is expected to announce some more restrictions. I’m bearish mainly because of the COVID-19 situation that I feel is going to continue to get worse and the fact that we are starting to see white collar layoffs occurring as the economy sputters. I think it’s going to be a slow decline though, with up days in between, not a plunge like we saw earlier this year. 

 
Hoping someone can help me understand the real impact of this wash sale stuff a bit. This is all because I'm an idiot and panic-sold CYDY yesterday when I should have done nothing at all. 

Anyway, During the panic sale I sold all the shares I had at a point that essentially had me taking a very small profit. Those shares had various cost basis points, averaging out to $4.87. (Obviously I didn't start looking at this thread until way too late for the CYDY train.) 

Then I tried to correct my mistake and bought back in at a few price points which essentially averaged out to $5.82/share. 

Because of these wash sale rules my Schwab account is showing that my current holdings have a cost per share of $6.98. Is that not a true accounting of what I have and profits/losses but more for tax purposing? I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around the fact that I took a profit, then got back in, then some funky (but I'm sure necessary) accounting thing shows me with a higher than "true" cost basis.

Sorry this is so elementary. I'm sure it highlights why I really shouldn't be doing this stuff and should just invest unemotionally for the long haul like my man @Todem talks about. Guess I need to speak with him after his vacation...

 
https://www.otcshortreport.com/company/CYDY

Here is the short volume yesterday. Says 22mn of the 54 million shares traded were short. No idea how much was covered. But any further covering could cause a spike in the stock so be careful tailing rallies. Wouldn't be surprised if Citron bails today, if they haven't already, if they're going to pull down that piece. 
Still not clear to me where they got their borrow for this.  There was nothing available when we checked our stock loan last check, so I'm very curious about this.  Naked shorting?  

 
Hoping someone can help me understand the real impact of this wash sale stuff a bit. This is all because I'm an idiot and panic-sold CYDY yesterday when I should have done nothing at all. 

Anyway, During the panic sale I sold all the shares I had at a point that essentially had me taking a very small profit. Those shares had various cost basis points, averaging out to $4.87. (Obviously I didn't start looking at this thread until way too late for the CYDY train.) 

Then I tried to correct my mistake and bought back in at a few price points which essentially averaged out to $5.82/share. 

Because of these wash sale rules my Schwab account is showing that my current holdings have a cost per share of $6.98. Is that not a true accounting of what I have and profits/losses but more for tax purposing? I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around the fact that I took a profit, then got back in, then some funky (but I'm sure necessary) accounting thing shows me with a higher than "true" cost basis.

Sorry this is so elementary. I'm sure it highlights why I really shouldn't be doing this stuff and should just invest unemotionally for the long haul like my man @Todem talks about. Guess I need to speak with him after his vacation...
Wash sales only apply to losses.  If you had a gain you'd report the gain on your 2020 taxes and your next basket of CYDY won't have it's cost basis affected by that.

Being unemotional is the way to go.  I love to do individual stocks but I'm sure I'd have been better off over time being unemotional about it and just set it and forget it type philosophy.

 
I’veheld back on these discussions but I don’t see much value in the market right now. Other than my 401k which I don’t mess with (no market timing there) I am basically 100% invested in CYDY and puts on casinos/airlines.
 

I feel that this market is on the brink of a huge drop and more shutdowns being announced is going to push it over the edge. The California Governor has a press conference I believe at 4 today and is expected to announce some more restrictions. I’m bearish mainly because of the COVID-19 situation that I feel is going to continue to get worse and the fact that we are starting to see white collar layoffs occurring as the economy sputters. I think it’s going to be a slow decline though, with up days in between, not a plunge like we saw earlier this year. 
So what is your 401(k) invested in?

 
Following you on this one.  Very small position, but it looks like this is just coming on the Robinhood radar screens.
Out of LCA for a very small profit.  It jumped up the RobinTrack charts but never saw it take off in relation to the RT charts.  

 
So what is your 401(k) invested in?
I have it set to 65% S&P, 15% small/mid cap and 20% international. All Vanguard index funds with low expense ratios. 
 

I have cash waiting in my wife’s Roth and my brokerage for if I’m right about another drop. Didn’t get in on the earlier one because I was waiting for some commission checks to come through. Overall I am about 90% invested and 10% cash. 

 
Wash sales only apply to losses.  If you had a gain you'd report the gain on your 2020 taxes and your next basket of CYDY won't have it's cost basis affected by that.

Being unemotional is the way to go.  I love to do individual stocks but I'm sure I'd have been better off over time being unemotional about it and just set it and forget it type philosophy.
So realistically, when I sold for that very small profit, the shares that were sold at a loss had that loss (or a portion of it, based on new acquisition price) carried forward and buried into the cost basis for my repurchase later in the day? 

 
So realistically, when I sold for that very small profit, the shares that were sold at a loss had that loss (or a portion of it, based on new acquisition price) carried forward and buried into the cost basis for my repurchase later in the day? 
OK, I may have misunderstood.  So are you saying that what you sold yesterday overall had a gain, but within that group you had multiple entry points, some of which were losses and some of which were gains?  If so I think wash sales would apply to those baskets that lost.  Let's say you had 100 shares you paid $6 for but sold at $5.  That $100 loss would have to go as a reduction to your cost basis in new shares you purchased.  Your new acquisition price has nothing to do with it other than it would be adjusted downward in tax basis rather than the IRS allowing you to claim a loss.  Now if you sell all these shares before 2020 is over, none of it will matter because it all will net out.

 
I have it set to 65% S&P, 15% small/mid cap and 20% international. All Vanguard index funds with low expense ratios. 
 

I have cash waiting in my wife’s Roth and my brokerage for if I’m right about another drop. Didn’t get in on the earlier one because I was waiting for some commission checks to come through. Overall I am about 90% invested and 10% cash. 
I'm debating pulling my 401(k) into safer investments as another correction seems likely from what I've read.

 
I'd not be opposed.  Miss seeing more of the other stock talk, but understandable that the last day's activity took up a lot of discussion in here.  Am curious about value other folks see in the broader market now though.
I'm with CR69. I think the stocks that saw the benefit from COVID already got their boosts and everything else is headed down or neutral. 

The only things that could pop from here are pharmaceutical companies if they make a COVID treatment/cure. Otherwise, you're just looking for entry points on long-term holds like Todem's List especially since I'm not a day trader.

At some point the stock market has to match the economy right?

 
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I'm debating pulling my 401(k) into safer investments as another correction seems likely from what I've read.
I'm starting to take some profits and stash cash. Outside of my 401k that is in index funds, my individual stock money is 95% invested now, much of it in CYDY.

 
I'm on the phone with IB right now. With Chet at equilibrium, I'm looking to add.

It's a little scary, within 12 months I think I'm going to get a good buying opp in Brooklyn Heights for like a nice 2br condo and my family is going to be headquartered in West Palm in another house. Going to put myself at 7500 today and leave room on a fall for 2500 more. I will need capital, so I can't have more than 10k shares facing a risk of $0.

They need the uplisting now to avoid yesterday's shenanigans!

 
I can't tell who's shticking here and who's not at this point.  What the hell, I'll let it ride, it's all house money at this point anyway.

 
I'd like to see the "todem list" of long holds.
This is ripped from one of Todem’s updates:
 

The last true dip we had was back on the 11th-14th of May and was the last time I deployed cash into stocks. I bought a lot of great companies that day mid morning before the rally started that we are in right now.

We bought:

BA

DFS

DE

JPM

EXC

PPL

WRE

XOM

KO

T

VZ

TAP

PG

 
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I can't tell who's shticking here and who's not at this point.  What the hell, I'll let it ride, it's all house money at this point anyway.
I have 5400 shares too, I think you said you had 5. We're in like 10th place, come climb the leaderboard a little, pick up another 2500 with me. It's like $17k, let's go!

 
I'd like to see the "todem list" of long holds.
For everyone. This is my master buy list for next week and no surprises here except a few I have not listed yet. I wanted to research them a lot harder.

AMZN

AAPL

GOOGL

NFLX

FB

INTC

HD

CSCO

EXC

LMT

MSFT

PFE

PG

TGT

CAT

PM

MCD

YUM

DOW

BRK'B

DEO

GIS

JPM

PFE

UTX

EMR

VZ

T

GCV

PEO

ADX

Here are some high fliers we will take positions in:

NXPI

CYBR

Here is the stressed travel, leisure and gambling casino/paramutual stocks we are going in on:

GLPI - Already have a 50% position going all in next Re-Test 

WYNN

DAL

CCL

CHDN

FUN
Don't remember the date of this post.  Possibly Mid-April, that is when I saved this in Excel.  

 
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I'm debating pulling my 401(k) into safer investments as another correction seems likely from what I've read.
In general I don’t believe in market timing but am willing to trust my gut on a small portion of our assets. Every study I’ve ever read shows that trying to time the market doesn’t work consistently. Timing both the sale and purchase is extremely tough to do and missing just one or two days can completely wipe out your profits. I have considered it though lol. Instead, I just reallocated to be heavier on the S&P which is very heavy on tech stocks which fared better than most through all of this. 

 
Interactive Brokers customer service is a ####### disgrace. Imagine it was a situation with an error and you had to get out of something ASAP. I'm on hold for 34 ####### minutes already!

 
SE has bounced back strong since last week.  Wish I'd grabbed more last week when it was down.
Someone mentioned being hesitant to buy as they read on Seeking Alpha that the books might be cooked. I'm wondering if there was any real proof, or if it was just an assumption, because of where they're headquartered. 

 
Someone mentioned being hesitant to buy as they read on Seeking Alpha that the books might be cooked. I'm wondering if there was any real proof, or if it was just an assumption, because of where they're headquartered. 
That’s the main thing that’s held me back. Too much risk imo. 

 
In general I don’t believe in market timing but am willing to trust my gut on a small portion of our assets. Every study I’ve ever read shows that trying to time the market doesn’t work consistently. Timing both the sale and purchase is extremely tough to do and missing just one or two days can completely wipe out your profits. I have considered it though lol. Instead, I just reallocated to be heavier on the S&P which is very heavy on tech stocks which fared better than most through all of this. 
I believe every time i've tried to time the market, I've been wrong.  Easily 0/5, and I'm usually a fast learner.  For years I sat on my poor experience of not trying to time the market because I suck at it, and yet I tried again.  And failed.

Each time I fail, I miss out on a significant gain as you not only have to time the sale, but you have to time the buyback.

At this point, I've learned my lesson.  I'll buy the dips on stocks I care about, but not try to time it otherwise as I'm a buy and hold guy, not much of a day trader at all.

 
I'm on the phone with IB right now. With Chet at equilibrium, I'm looking to add.

It's a little scary, within 12 months I think I'm going to get a good buying opp in Brooklyn Heights for like a nice 2br condo and my family is going to be headquartered in West Palm in another house. Going to put myself at 7500 today and leave room on a fall for 2500 more. I will need capital, so I can't have more than 10k shares facing a risk of $0.

They need the uplisting now to avoid yesterday's shenanigans!
So much for buying at $3-$4, eh? I bought back in today to have my original position back. It's been a wild ride.

 
Right, so how did they pull it off?  The brokerage houses that permitted this can get in trouble.  
Don't know other than I highly doubt the SEC will look into the manipulation of an OTC stock.  They've got much bigger fish to fry. I believe yesterday's action by the shorts was highly organized and unbelievably effective.  Scary for longs and all the more reason to uplist to a real exchange ASAP.  

I have no proof but I think it's possible that the OTC exchange knows exactly what's going on with the shorts and simply turns a blind eye.  They do provide significant volume.

 
Don't know other than I highly doubt the SEC will look into the manipulation of an OTC stock.  They've got much bigger fish to fry. I believe yesterday's action by the shorts was highly organized and unbelievably effective.  Scary for longs and all the more reason to uplist to a real exchange ASAP.  

I have no proof but I think it's possible that the OTC exchange knows exactly what's going on with the shorts and simply turns a blind eye.  They do provide significant volume.
Well we know Andrew Left made some money, that's guaranteed. His article was timed for it. Knowing his work, it was pretty sloppy, so I believe :tinfoilhat: he was basically paid by someone to post that. Following the trail of money leads to the scumbag... 

 
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People starting to front run the “sell the news” event - even if the sell the news event is just a reassurance.

 

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