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Because I’m in a particularly feisty mood:

love the fact a barely political post gets jumped on in a heartbeat

meanwhile...

Multiple people give a new investor 100 percent incorrect / bad info while making fun of him and it’s silence while the offenders say “oopsies” when it’s pointed out.

Have been around for years. Haven’t been around here for years. But that’s pretty ####ed up.

might want to start policing the #### that may lose people money instead of the #### that triggers someone. Stonks go up and all.

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4 hours ago, JerseyToughGuys said:

Welcome to the world of UBI.

How do you cut off the payments once folks get used to them? It will crash everything.

We won't. 

I don't believe UBI will crash anything except maybe at first some pay day lenders.  The most political thing I'll say here is I'm curious to see what "trickle up economics" can do. 

I'd say tax rates should rise to pay for it, but it seems as likely that more money will just be "created", eventually inflation will rise.

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5 minutes ago, JerseyToughGuys said:

Because I’m in a particularly feisty mood:

love the fact a barely political post gets jumped on in a heartbeat

meanwhile...

Multiple people give a new investor 100 percent incorrect / bad info while making fun of him and it’s silence while the offenders say “oopsies” when it’s pointed out.

Have been around for years. Haven’t been around here for years. But that’s pretty ####ed up.

might want to start policing the #### that may lose people money instead of the #### that triggers someone. Stonks go up and all.

I’ll take a slightly different view and say that I don’t want politics in here unless it’s truly going to a thought that explores an impact on the market. Also, in terms of advice in here, no one should be losing money due to that. Everyone’s a big boy and if you aren’t doing your own homework and research then it’s your own fault. I don’t see any issues asking but you can literally google anything these days and find a reputable source/answer. Depending only on this thread can be hazardous to your bottom line. CYDY and others have been great tips but still, do your own due diligence even if your green. I do agree that there’s no need for people to be asses but we do seem to do a decent job of making corrections.

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Lebrondiddlethemaid needs to get back to 10 so we can all be in a good mood again.

I don't mind being made fun of.  I am the most uninformed person in this thread and should probably barely, if ever, post.  Comes with the territory.  

Stonks keep going up.  

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To be clear the only person I intended to make fun of was Jeff Bagwell.

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4 hours ago, JerseyToughGuys said:

Bond market don’t lie and can’t be jawboned.

That's a good one :lol: 

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11 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

To be clear the only person I intended to make fun of was Jeff Bagwell.

I thought it was a fantastic analogy. 

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28 minutes ago, stbugs said:

 Depending only on this thread can be hazardous to your bottom line. CYDY and others have been great tips but still, do your own due diligence even if your green.

I worry in particular about new investors coming into a lot of this. The vast majority of people are always going to be best off investing in a good index fund. Set it and forget it.

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17 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

To be clear the only person I intended to make fun of was Jeff Bagwell.

He should be for that ridiculous batting stance alone.

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1 hour ago, JerseyToughGuys said:

Because I’m in a particularly feisty mood:

love the fact a barely political post gets jumped on in a heartbeat

meanwhile...

Multiple people give a new investor 100 percent incorrect / bad info while making fun of him and it’s silence while the offenders say “oopsies” when it’s pointed out.

Have been around for years. Haven’t been around here for years. But that’s pretty ####ed up.

might want to start policing the #### that may lose people money instead of the #### that triggers someone. Stonks go up and all.

Because I’m in a particularly stoned mood:

wat

 besides Otis, the dudes in here are cool

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4 hours ago, sporthenry said:

I don't really know how you discuss stocks without mentioning massive government intervention at this point. I guess this thread is so sophisticated that we've already priced in these policies. But as far as I'm concerned, this market is driven by two things: the coronavirus along with possible treatments / vaccines and the government response (fiscal / monetary policy). I think there is a way to discuss it without going off the rails and quite frankly, if you aren't discussing it because it's politics, you are missing out on a huge thing. Heck, I'm sure I can't talk about the upcoming election even though some have said it could have a 10% impact on earnings. Someone may want to tell GS not to discuss politics in their notes anymore. I know I'm being snarky but this thread amazes me where we draw the line. At this point, 100 pages of this thread are probably taken up by an OTC penny stock. Investing is great b/c you can get as micro as talking about a single drug to talking about the possibility of the dollar losing it's reserve currency status. Ignoring politics b/c it's messy is a good way to lose (or miss out on gains). Heck, if you think Trump is going to lose, you should probably convert all your IRAs to Roths since the tax rate will likely never be lower for FBGs.

I get it and agree to an extent. Given that this board has a seperate politics forum, it is probably best to direct a lot of those comments to one of the threads there. Particularly when it is about Trump vs Biden or similar. 

Fed comments are a bit closer to the line. A lot of people really don't understand monetary policy and can reach bad conclusions based on fear-mongering about it.

At the end of the day stonks can and should go up:

:ptts:

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52 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

We won't. 

I don't believe UBI will crash anything except maybe at first some pay day lenders.  The most political thing I'll say here is I'm curious to see what "trickle up economics" can do. 

I'd say tax rates should rise to pay for it, but it seems as likely that more money will just be "created", eventually inflation will rise.

I meant what will cutting off UBI do to the economy when/if it happens?

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Please share your favorite safe 5% yield dividend stock. That won’t go down. No stonks that go down (i.e. T or VZ)

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1 minute ago, NajehHejan said:

Please share your favorite safe 5% yield dividend stock. That won’t go down. No stonks that go down (i.e. T or VZ)

If you want a stonk that won't go down, buy a bond (and hold to maturity)

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19 minutes ago, Slapdash said:

If you want a stonk that won't go down, buy a bond (and hold to maturity)

Thanks. I’ve done my research and am going to invest heavily into the ETF named ANGL. It has a dividend yield of 5.72%. It’s comprised of “Fallen Angel” bonds that have been recently downgraded from investor grade to junk grade. Core holdings are companies like Sprint, Kraft Heinz, Newell Brands, Freeport McMoran, etc. Companies that yes have had some tough times but I don’t see them defaulting and vanishing overnight. This seems like free 5+% profit. As old bonds mature, they add select new “angel” items. 💰 💰 💰 💵 💵 💵 chet chet chet  

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Anyone tipping their toes in LKNCY? Quite the ride as of late, $2.61 per share for a company that has $4.50 per share cash on hand (supposedly).

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So I just applied and was approved for covered options. Tell me how to make boatloads plz.

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4 hours ago, NajehHejan said:

Please share your favorite safe 5% yield dividend stock. That won’t go down. No stonks that go down (i.e. T or VZ)

I've been fairly pleased with worthy bonds with a small amount of short term money, but others won't go near it..

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On 6/30/2020 at 8:19 PM, chet said:

Going to the dealer tomorrow to spec an 812 GTS.

 :wub:  Update? 

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12 minutes ago, Harris said:

 :wub:  Update? 

Had to push it back a week.  My daughter asked to go and she had a conflict.

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8 minutes ago, chet said:

Had to push it back a week.  My daughter asked to go and she had a conflict.

How long do I have to push off retirement?  4 to 6 week?  ;)

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5 hours ago, skycriesmary said:

Anyone tipping their toes in LKNCY? Quite the ride as of late, $2.61 per share for a company that has $4.50 per share cash on hand (supposedly).

This is quite interesting.  I assume that it was delisted.  We kind of thought it would go away, but it just appeared in another market.  I hindsight it makes sense the institutional investors would dump and the end and the stock would fall like a rock.  Almost bought some a couple of days ago but got caught up managing the cydy mess.

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6 hours ago, Slapdash said:

I worry in particular about new investors coming into a lot of this. The vast majority of people are always going to be best off investing in a good index fund. Set it and forget it.

I do see some risky behavior in this thread, but then you have to remember that many of these folks are using the "play" fund.  

I would argue that most people investing in 20-30 stocks that you like and keeping the allocations reasonable will  beat most of the index funds, especially some of the dated target funds offered in some plans.

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$6.97 in Germany

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8 hours ago, -OZ- said:

We won't. 

I don't believe UBI will crash anything except maybe at first some pay day lenders.  The most political thing I'll say here is I'm curious to see what "trickle up economics" can do. 

I'd say tax rates should rise to pay for it, but it seems as likely that more money will just be "created", eventually inflation will rise.

It won't crash anything but the huge amount of debt it creates will very likely depress GDP growth even more than were already crushing it.

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4 hours ago, Harris said:

So I just applied and was approved for covered options. Tell me how to make boatloads plz.

Covered options are a conservative trading vehicle, more conservative than buying stocks. Get approved to buy calls then we can talk. Also, you’ll need to study. A lot.

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7 hours ago, NajehHejan said:

Please share your favorite safe 5% yield dividend stock. That won’t go down. No stonks that go down (i.e. T or VZ)

PFE.

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7 hours ago, NajehHejan said:

Please share your favorite safe 5% yield dividend stock. That won’t go down. No stonks that go down (i.e. T or VZ)

PSA-W or other variant of that company.  NLY-I.  PPL, though it could go down.

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7 minutes ago, Sand said:

It won't crash anything but the huge amount of debt it creates will very likely depress GDP growth even more than were already crushing it.

I don't think you all know how people living paycheck to paycheck work.

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3 minutes ago, pecorino said:

PFE.

Hate that stock.  Objectively one of the worst large caps out there.  Has literally done nothing for 20+ years in a world hungry for new pharma.

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If our government gave the business stimulus to people making 100k and under.  We would be at 35k and growing.

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2 minutes ago, Golf Guy 69 said:

I don't think you all know how people living paycheck to paycheck work.

My response wasn't aimed at working conditions, but monetary effects on GDP and the implications for equities.  IMO, not good.

Since this is the stock thread I'm keeping my comments apolitical and reflective of equities and equities only.

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3 minutes ago, Sand said:

Hate that stock.  Objectively one of the worst large caps out there.  Has literally done nothing for 20+ years in a world hungry for new pharma.

Gotta love a strong opinion, lol.

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7 hours ago, NajehHejan said:

Please share your favorite safe 5% yield dividend stock. That won’t go down. No stonks that go down (i.e. T or VZ)

DHT is a better buy now than it will be again over the next 5 years. I know that's true about most stocks but this one I feel very emphatic about.

 

All these guys do is print cash and dish out huge ### dividends.

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7 minutes ago, Sand said:

Hate that stock.  Objectively one of the worst large caps out there.  Has literally done nothing for 20+ years in a world hungry for new pharma.

As someone who has owned it for 20 years I could not agree more. 

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6 minutes ago, Breezy H2O said:

Gotta love a strong opinion, lol.

When looking at a large cap I always look at it's propensity to return value to shareholders.  It usually has a long track record.

I always struggle when I see recommendations of stocks like GS or PFE when they have shown over decades to not providing value for investors.

At the least if you buy something like JNJ you have a history of growth.

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4 minutes ago, Breezy H2O said:

DHT is a better buy now than it will be again over the next 5 years. I know that's true about most stocks but this one I feel very emphatic about.

Give us a rundown?  I've never heard of this company.

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What about Clorox? CLX

Pays dividend, big time growth, people will be bleaching the #### out of everything for ever.

Is very expensive right now on the bad side.

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8 hours ago, The General said:

He should be for that ridiculous batting stance alone.

There's an entire forum for baseball talk. Let's leave Bags out of this.

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The offices of Frank Cruz is at total bs website.  They have a place there to report fraudulent companies.  When I tried to complain about Cruz himself being fraudulent, it wouldn't accept any info cause captcha said site not legit.

Now if we only had some attorney's on the board that knew how to contact that bar association and report imposters, that would be swell.

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I love how we’re in the middle of states starting to shut down again but the market jumps on a jobs report. I thought the market was forward looking? This is nuts. 
 

Go CYDY!

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31 minutes ago, Sand said:

Hate that stock.  Objectively one of the worst large caps out there.  Has literally done nothing for 20+ years in a world hungry for new pharma.

Yes. It’s a buy low candidate.

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29 minutes ago, Sand said:

Hate that stock.  Objectively one of the worst large caps out there.  Has literally done nothing for 20+ years in a world hungry for new pharma.

Agree. My grandfather made oodles of money over the course of his career working as an executive there, not so much in salary but in saving up tons of PFE stock and options.  Made a small fortune, which the entire extended family has benefitted from. But since he passed away, it’s don’t nothing but sat still. Been telling family for years to sell it off and get basically anything else. 

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3 minutes ago, CR69 said:

I love how we’re in the middle of states starting to shut down again but the market jumps on a jobs report. I thought the market was forward looking? This is nuts. 
 

Go CYDY!

Agreed, I’m looking to buy some SPY puts heading into the long weekend. 

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2 minutes ago, pecorino said:

Agreed, I’m looking to buy some SPY puts heading into the long weekend. 

I’ve been hesitant to buy puts on SPY because the tech companies are doing so well but seeing airlines, casinos and cruises up this morning is blowing my mind. 

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31 minutes ago, Sand said:

My response wasn't aimed at working conditions, but monetary effects on GDP and the implications for equities.  IMO, not good.

Since this is the stock thread I'm keeping my comments apolitical and reflective of equities and equities only.

So, what apolitical theory has consumers with more liquidity as a negative.  On the edge of my seat.

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TVIX, why?  You look so good at 107.

I started another TZA run this morning.  

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