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The next Brian Urlacher? Not a need with Luke, but damn that would be a scary LB Corps.
after sitting 20+ games. Doubt he will be effective.
I wouldn't be surprised at any pick at this point. I think they will take the best player available. I find myself being ok with just about any pick. The only picks that would be leaving me in a WTF state would be a QB, TE or kicker of some sort.. I'm even ok with them taking a "project" tackle if they choose. Give him a year to learn and be good to go the following year.
I think I agree with this, no reaches just the guy they think is the best player (best fit if more than one BPA).
To me a first round pick needs to be a day one player. That's why I say if you are going to pick a guy who is a project then get him later.
Very true. Outside of the OL collapse last year and the injuries that really hurt in that 6 game losing streak, we are what 20-6-1/1-2 in playoffs with several close losses to teams like Seattle where one DWill fumble and one 90 yard INT for TD play changes the game. If we can pull a solid 1st and 2nd round pick, I think we could be really good and I wouldn't think another NFC South team could touch us. Just keep getting to the playoffs and you never know.
I get that. I haven't followed many drafts as closely as I have the last few going back to the last couple years of Hurney. I can't remember a time where we haven't had HUGE holes to fill. Our largest hole is obvious, but it's smaller compared to previous years (if that makes sense) and I don't know how many drafts exist where can't miss day one OL fall to the 20s of the first round. That's why I'd be ok with them taking a guy and letting him learn for a year. I personally don't really consider that a project (I think more along the lines of 2-3 years worth of learning/teaching when I think project).
Don't disagree....stepping back and looking at this thing as if there were no absolute needs, I'm liking this kid out of FSU that can play all over the o-line.
Yeah, that's the catch 22. If these guys were true LT prospects Car wouldn't have a chance at them, they'd be top 20 picks. Still, I think there add some quality players in the group worth rolling the dice on.
Been looking at some later round guys that have the physicality but are raw. I would rather get a project later. I think there will be a day one starter available for us at either safety,corner or wr.
Ramblings are better than no posts so ramble on.
I don't think for one second the NFL thinks that 10 game is going to happen. AP was convicted and beat the suspension. I expect it will be seriously reduced if not tossed completely.
Agreed. I think 25 isn't a bad spot at all. I don't think I have seen a mock where it seemed like had no good options. Throw in the usual reaches and surprises and I think we will have a few options.
Maybe, but based on your other post, I doubt the guys going later are any better prospects at LT. As jurb said, the guys with 1st round talent that people project as anchor LTs are drafted much earlier, so all the OT prospects at 25 have question marks, doesn't mean that they are RTs just that they aren't top 10 picks. That said, it seems like there are some guys I have seen as potential LTs, just not top 10 guys.
Is the from a team source or "NFL insiders"? I've been picking him up in the late rounds of the FBG survivor leagues? After being all over Kelvin last winter the NFL analysts may just being following my moves.
Straight from the HC. Rivera has been quoted talking up Hill several times. Seems to really like what he is seeing fwiw.
He also named Armanti Edwards the star of training camp way back when. I think in regards to this its all coach talk. Hill couldnt catch at Gtech, couldnt catch at the Jets so I doubt he miraculously is going to learn how over a year. What I bet is happening is that like in the combine and pro days, Hill is a freak and does all the right things, however when its game time he goes back to the same old same old.
Actually Hill was pretty decent in college. He seemed.to regress after going pro. Seems he didn't think he was well coached there.
I think they really want him to be that guy. And with his numbers if he can break those bad habits we would really have something. If Ricky is in then I'm now officially excited about Hill.
It will be interesting to see how the draft shakes out. I think the Panthers did a nice job in the draft last year. There was one or two misses in the later rounds, but for the most part they did well.
I will be very surprised if Gurley drops to us. If he does they will have to seriously consider him. It would be a nice fit as we could ease him behind Stew this season.
That and OTs/WRs. I agree with your post above that Gurley is likely not going to be around and likely Gordon as well. I know it is en vogue to say that RBs are a dime a dozen and very low valued, but I still think when the top guys are more in the LT2/ADP/Emmitt/Barry/Payton mold than Bishop Sankey, they will go early.
to someone slipping like Star. Remember before the draft where people put him as the potential #1 (like Williams this year) before his physical?
Yeah if he somehow falls to Arizona I don't see how they pick someone else. Same with Gordon. I think in the second round we'll have a shot at someone good.That and OTs/WRs. I agree with your post above that Gurley is likely not going to be around and likely Gordon as well. I know it is en vogue to say that RBs are a dime a dozen and very low valued, but I still think when the top guys are more in the LT2/ADP/Emmitt/Barry/Payton mold than Bishop Sankey, they will go early.IMHO, there are too many teams with RB needs (huge or just big improvements) after pick 7 and before pick 25 to think that Gurley will be there. Atlanta, NYG, St. Louis, Minny (depending on ADP), Cleveland x2, San Diego, Detroit (?) and Arizona.
It will be a fun night,
As clear as HE can be anyway
He said their are only 5 tackles in this draft. I think he has a late sleeper in mind.As clear as HE can be anyway
I tend to agree. I'm now thinking it is going to be the best defensive player available or a WR.
That's one take from the quotes:BassNBrew said:He said their are only 5 tackles in this draft. I think he has a late sleeper in mind.The Commish said:As clear as HE can be anywayNCCommish said:
I tend to agree. I'm now thinking it is going to be the best defensive player available or a WR.
I thought the opposite, that out of the top ranked OL, he felt only 5 were possible tackles and in some mocks there are 5 gone before our pick. Outside of Scherff, the others I have seen all over the place in the 1st round. Heck the latest mock I see on ESPN has Flowers going #9 and Collins going #29, which is pretty much opposite most every mock I have seen where Collins seemed to be the #2 OL behind Scherff on average and Flowers was usually late first. I think if one of the 4 or 5 is available at 25 that he wouldn't hesitate, unless someone special dropped and one of the 4 or 5 could be available in the 2nd.
Hurney's show mock draft had us taking Perriman.That's one take from the quotes:BassNBrew said:He said their are only 5 tackles in this draft. I think he has a late sleeper in mind.The Commish said:As clear as HE can be anywayNCCommish said:
I tend to agree. I'm now thinking it is going to be the best defensive player available or a WR.
I thought the opposite, that out of the top ranked OL, he felt only 5 were possible tackles and in some mocks there are 5 gone before our pick. Outside of Scherff, the others I have seen all over the place in the 1st round. Heck the latest mock I see on ESPN has Flowers going #9 and Collins going #29, which is pretty much opposite most every mock I have seen where Collins seemed to be the #2 OL behind Scherff on average and Flowers was usually late first. I think if one of the 4 or 5 is available at 25 that he wouldn't hesitate, unless someone special dropped and one of the 4 or 5 could be available in the 2nd.
Anyway, pretty excited to see where we go.
I saw another one with Devin Smith for us. I am not so sure I like either of those guys in the 1st. Perriman wasn't even sniffing the 1st round until his 40 time and Smith has questions about running more than go route. I like them both, but it seems like one of the burners/deep threats will be there in the 2nd (Dorsett as well). I'd rather have another player in the 1st and maybe Smith in the 2nd. I think he would likely be the one lasting till then.Hurney's show mock draft had us taking Perriman.That's one take from the quotes:BassNBrew said:He said their are only 5 tackles in this draft. I think he has a late sleeper in mind.The Commish said:As clear as HE can be anywayNCCommish said:
I tend to agree. I'm now thinking it is going to be the best defensive player available or a WR.
I thought the opposite, that out of the top ranked OL, he felt only 5 were possible tackles and in some mocks there are 5 gone before our pick. Outside of Scherff, the others I have seen all over the place in the 1st round. Heck the latest mock I see on ESPN has Flowers going #9 and Collins going #29, which is pretty much opposite most every mock I have seen where Collins seemed to be the #2 OL behind Scherff on average and Flowers was usually late first. I think if one of the 4 or 5 is available at 25 that he wouldn't hesitate, unless someone special dropped and one of the 4 or 5 could be available in the 2nd.
Anyway, pretty excited to see where we go.
