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****The 2019 Carolina Panthers Thread**** We Rhule At Losing (4 Viewers)
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cstu
Footballguy
Cam needs big WR's and why take the chance someone else takes him?
If he works out he's worth their 2nd and 3rd.
FUBAR
Footballguy
That can be said for most players.
Just seems there were better players on the board, thought they traded up for fisher.
cstu
Footballguy
simey
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
simey
Footballguy
He was projected to go in the early 2nd. I guess the Panthers really wanted him, and didn't feel he would be there for them to pick late in the 2nd.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
simey
Footballguy
I recall last year a bunch of people carrying on about how Benjamin would be a bust, and he wasn't. To move up in the draft to get Funchess, I assume they feel he will be a good fit with Cam, and they were right last year about Benjamin. They also have Ginn, Cotchery, and the alleged new improved Hill (and Olsen). Forgot Philly Brown.
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BassNBrew
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simey
Footballguy
simey
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spider321
Footballguy
The Panthers have a desperate need for offensive linemen.
They just traded their 3rd round pick to draft a WR that couldn't outrun most of the posters here.
Not too many decent o-linemen available in round 4.
Horrible pick, and way worse, horrible decision to give up their 3rd round pick.
They just traded their 3rd round pick to draft a WR that couldn't outrun most of the posters here.
Not too many decent o-linemen available in round 4.
Horrible pick, and way worse, horrible decision to give up their 3rd round pick.
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
simey
Footballguy
They've been overly spooked since Carruth, and that slimeball will be out of prison in about 3 years.
The offense needs two things: speed and better blocking. Did they seriously just burn a 3rd to get someone who delivers neither of those things?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
BassNBrew
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simey
Footballguy
They needed a WR. Obviously they liked him enough to move up in the draft to get him.
spider321
Footballguy
I admire your faith simey, but tackle is a much greater need.
Now, they can't get one in round 3, either.
omally
Footballguy
WR was a need. He was thought to be a first rounder last year until he hurt his leg and toe. Gettleman and Rivera like him.
simey
Footballguy
They added Oher and Martin, and they have a pick in the 4th, 3 picks in the 5th, and 1 in the 7th...I think... to add someone else to the OL. They could all end up to be the worst picks ever, but for now, I'll consider them good ones.
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stratocatter
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For comparison, a 3rd... we got Charles Johnson with a 3rd. We got Olsen for a 3rd. We got a current starting G with a 3rd. I think Travelle was a 3rd. There are more. This was a 3rd, a 2nd, and a 6th.
I think the guy runs a lot better than he did at the combine, but the drops are worrisome.
I think the guy runs a lot better than he did at the combine, but the drops are worrisome.
omally
Footballguy
He ran a better time after the combine. I agree the drops are worrisome, but it is something he can work on. Benjamin needs to work on that too. Everyone has room for improvement, and it will be interesting to see how Cam's mechanics are this coming season since he is supposed to get help with that this offseason.
omally
Footballguy
spider321
Footballguy
One guy who was much better in a movie than he is in real life, and another guy who is 6'5, 305lbs and let another man make him his *****.
Both of these guys are Charmin Ultra soft.
Agree they could use a WR, particularly a speedy one. Funchess seems like more of a TE though.
NCCommish
Footballguy
He ran a 4.47 40 at his pro day. He is a wideout. I am OK with the pick and think if Hill has really started to put it together this group could be a real matchup problem. We got something for your 6'3" safety. And as far as tackles go anyone left is a project. This kid plays day one and has an impact.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I like Strong but he is more of a possession guy and needs a lot of work especially on his routes. He needs someone who can throw him open and let's be honest Cam isn't that guy at least yet. Not sold on Clemmings, plenty of project guys left to pick.
omally
Footballguy
How do you know they could have gotten Funchess later? He was predicted to go in the second.
spider321
Footballguy
You're right, I don't know.
I do know that they need a mother loving tackle though, and they lost their 3rd round pick to pick a friggin' WR in the second round.
When are the open tryouts for starting offensive line spots gonna start?
pantherclub
Footballguy
I doubt any tackle they could have gotten in the 2 or 3rd round would have helped this season anyway. I love the Funchess pick as it now makes our offense tougher to play against especially if the run game comes together. A lot of one on one match ups with our big wr's. Funchess helps us this year a la kb last season. Again, no tackle that I see would have made any significant contribution this season outside of building depth. If and that's a big if, oher plays at least average then this team is going to be really good for a long time. DG is building a solid foundation for long term success. However if oher plays like bell then cam may be dead by seasons end.spider321 said:
I hope we use our bevy of 5th level round picks to grab Clemmings. It would just be nice to get an OT with potential to groom. We need depth and he had a first round grade all over the place. Heck I wouldn't even mind taking a shot at Collins at this point. Maybe you can get him to sign. I know rookie contracts, but they redo contracts all the time. If he pans out and is completely clear, you do an extension, etc.
ETA: I know we can't trade 2 of the 5ths, but use our 4th and 5th and move up.
ETA: I know we can't trade 2 of the 5ths, but use our 4th and 5th and move up.
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NCCommish
Footballguy
Problem is the Collins thing is too Carruth. While I'd love to see them grab him I just don't think they want anywhere near this controversy and its hard to blame them really. At this point I'd feel real good about a Clemminga pick.
FUBAR
Footballguy
They listened.
Williams is a good pick, almost certainly a RT but one who can start soon.
Pantherz
Footballguy
Well there's our OT. Gave up three more pics to get him.
OVERVIEW
First-team All-Big 12 in 2014, starting every game at right tackle. Started 12 games at right tackle and one at left tackle in 2013 en route to being selected second-team All-Big 12. Was Honorable Mention All-Big 12 as a sophomore in 2012, but missed final three games with MCL sprain in right knee. Was a four-star recruit by Scout and Rivals and graded out at 93 percent, with 38 pancakes and no sacks allowed.
PRO DAY RESULTS
Three-cone drill: 8.18 seconds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Physical at the point of attack. Comes off snap with bad intentions and rolls hips under him to drive defender off the ball. Tough guy who leads by example on the field. Works to the whistle and enjoys the one-on-one run-game scraps. Competes as a pass blocker. Sees and reacts well to twists. Has power in his hands. Buries defenders on down blocks. Outstanding football character and overall work ethic.
WEAKNESSES Below-average athleticism. Won't be much of a factor in getting back-side cut-off blocks against quick linebackers. Gets weight forward and will lose balance. Marginal lateral movement. Plodder. Shuffles and gallops to wide pass sets. Struggled against Baylor and rung up for three holding calls. Unable to smoothly change directions and redirect. Body control needs improvement.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5
BOTTOM LINE
Williams is a competitive player with all the football character you want and NFL power to match. When he gets defenders lined up in his sweet spot, he can drive them out of the play. Winning with guile and toughness over skill, Williams' lack of functional athleticism is a concern and might be a catalyst for a move inside to guard.
OVERVIEW
First-team All-Big 12 in 2014, starting every game at right tackle. Started 12 games at right tackle and one at left tackle in 2013 en route to being selected second-team All-Big 12. Was Honorable Mention All-Big 12 as a sophomore in 2012, but missed final three games with MCL sprain in right knee. Was a four-star recruit by Scout and Rivals and graded out at 93 percent, with 38 pancakes and no sacks allowed.
PRO DAY RESULTS
Three-cone drill: 8.18 seconds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Physical at the point of attack. Comes off snap with bad intentions and rolls hips under him to drive defender off the ball. Tough guy who leads by example on the field. Works to the whistle and enjoys the one-on-one run-game scraps. Competes as a pass blocker. Sees and reacts well to twists. Has power in his hands. Buries defenders on down blocks. Outstanding football character and overall work ethic.
WEAKNESSES Below-average athleticism. Won't be much of a factor in getting back-side cut-off blocks against quick linebackers. Gets weight forward and will lose balance. Marginal lateral movement. Plodder. Shuffles and gallops to wide pass sets. Struggled against Baylor and rung up for three holding calls. Unable to smoothly change directions and redirect. Body control needs improvement.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5
BOTTOM LINE
Williams is a competitive player with all the football character you want and NFL power to match. When he gets defenders lined up in his sweet spot, he can drive them out of the play. Winning with guile and toughness over skill, Williams' lack of functional athleticism is a concern and might be a catalyst for a move inside to guard.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
This is interesting. NFL.com is listing Funchess as a TE.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/devin-funchess?id=2552458
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/devin-funchess?id=2552458
