WSL 3 Draft Commentary (2 Viewers)

'Stephen Holloway said:

Team Holloway6.13 Matt Schaub QB Houston11.14 Geno Smith QB Rookie1.4 Doug Martin RB TB9.4 Shane Vereen RB NE2.13 Roddy White WR ATL3.4 Vincent Jackson WR TB4.13 Steve Johnson WR BUF5.4 Greg Jennings WR GB/FA12.7 Keenan Allen WR Rookie7.4 Kyle Rudolph TE MIN8.13 Jermichael Finley TE GB?10.13 Brent Celek TE PHI13.4 Green Bay Packers DSTSurprised that my heavy focus on wide receivers did not generate any discussion. The wide receiver position is really becoming more important in the NFL and I wanted to offset the week to week variability there by having at least three highly rated players. I wound up drafting four in a row because I loved the value offered by Greg Jennings.Similarly, with only two scorers required at running back, combined with the league-wide shortage of three down running backs, I wanted to avoid loading up early at the running back position, particularly after I drafted a solid top ten candidate.I got very nervous late in the fifth round and all through round six, but was thrilled to get Schaub who passed for over 4,000 yards last year as the 21st QB taken. I considered Alex Smith in the 11th round, but went with the rookie currently considered as the top quarterback candidate since there are several teams almost desperate for a quarterback.I also played a waiting game at tight end. I would have considered any of the top four tight ends at my 2nd round pick, but they were all gone. I was pleased that the group as a whole ignored the position so that I could get Kyle Rudolph as the 10th tight end. Similarly, I was happy to get Finley in the 8th round. I definitely solidified my standing among the top tight end rankings by adding Brent Celek as my 3rd tight end near the end of the 10th round. Having three for only one score might be a little over the top, but with the 2 points per reception at the position, it is comforting to have three guys, each capable of posting a solid score.Right now, I would rank both my wide receivers and tight ends among our league’s elite and I still have seven more draft picks to solidify the running backs, defense, and kickers. Even though, I have two positions that are clearly in the lower half of the rankings, I like the composition of the team.Feel free to offer comments or criticisms though, because the discussion is the most important reason for having these early, early drafts.

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I took a very similar tact, spending my first 3 picks on WR's. I didn't get an elite QB, but instead two low end QB1s...in BB, that's often just as good.Same problem at RB though...not a lot there.

QB Russell Wilson

QB Jake Locker

RB Frank Gore

RB Mikel Leshoure

RB Robert Turbin

WR Julio Jones

WR Cecil Shorts

WR Brian Hartline

WR Nate Washington

WR Devone Bess

TE Jimmy Graham

TE Martellus Bennett

DEF Cincinnati Bengals

DEF San Diego Chargers

Picked up my third RB, and was pleased that Turbin was still available. Will still need some numbers to flesh out the position.

A second defense selection might seem a luxury, and I probably could've waited until the 15/16 turn and still had an option or two available, but I didn't want to risk it. Not willing to roll the dice considering my draft position. I considered nabbing a kicker here, as that position is certainly shallower than defense, but ultimately decided to wait.

Last two turns locked up the Jaguar connection - Blaine Gabbert to Jordan Shipley... CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

well that Titus Young gamble sure failed pretty quickly. If only I had waited another round.

'valence said:

well that Titus Young gamble sure failed pretty quickly. If only I had waited another round.

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Valence my friend,You should have asked. As a Lions fan I could have helped. Any POS who gets on twitter and says he is better than Calvin Johnson.....I mean TO looks at him and says "easy there son."Peace

QB Matt RyanQB Christian PonderQB Alex SmithRB CJ SpillerRB Ahmad BradshawRB Giovanni Bernard ®RB Fred JacksonWR Reggie WayneWR Jeremy MaclinWR Brandon LloydWR Brandon LaFellWR Terrance Williams ®TE Jason WittenTE Delanie WalkerPK Connar BarthPK Ryan SuccopDEF Buffalo BillsDEF Cleveland BrownsHappy to get a decent TE2 at this late point in the draft, especially if he signs to start for another NFL team. Not crazy about my kickers and defenses but they aren't terrible.

I'm limping to the end here - Drafted from the road a lot, just hoping to nail players not picked yet..... One of my PTTS drafts.One defense - Ugggh...Funny but, last year I spent / had some time and thought I had all pretty good drafts and had my worst year in SSL's - Kickers Killed me.So, who knows with this Misfit team...BUT, I'll say this, as little time and as crazy as it's been, I probably have less than 45 min total Draft time on clock... Just something I personally try to keep tight.. Next round we probably have to get back to basics - Send PM's, Lists and Bold Draft picks / with #'s... I thought there was a format for this long ago.I'll have little desire to analyze and look back at WTF I drafted here... lol... I'll try to make up for it in the next commentary.Maybe when it's done I'll take another look.

Final Squad

QB Russell Wilson

QB Jake Locker

RB Frank Gore

RB Mikel Leshoure

RB Robert Turbin

RB Stepfan Taylor

RB Cedric Benson

WR Julio Jones

WR Cecil Shorts

WR Brian Hartline

WR Nate Washington

WR Devone Bess

WR Brandon Gibson

WR Brandon Stokley

TE Jimmy Graham

TE Martellus Bennett

PK Steven Hauschka

PK Shuan Suisham

DEF Cincinnati Bengals

DEF San Diego Chargers

QB - Wilson and Locker are young, have job security, and have wheels. Not the best combo but a very serviceable duo with a high weekly floor.

RB - Gore is the centerpiece, which is a sketchy proposition. To be fair, he looked great with Kaepernick in the backfield. He is getting old and has young talent to attempt to hold off for the bulk of the carries in San Fran. Leshoure seems adequate as a second back. Turbin, Taylor and Benson are depth that I'll need to luck into some production. Seeing where Taylor goes and how he fits with his new team will be crucial. Not a strong position.

WR - Seven deep. Seems I manged to mix some PPR consistency (Shorts, Bess, Gibson) with a couple high-ceiling types (Jones, Hartline). Washington and Stokley are weekly scoring threats, despite not getting a ton of targets. Don't love this group but I like them A LOT.

TE - When you take Graham in the first round you know you're not going to roll three deep at the position. I'll live and die with him most weeks. Bennett seems decent as a backup, provided he plays more like early season Black Unicorn and not the de-horned late-in-2012 version.

PK/DEF - Might've overpaid for DEF but it was an itch I had to scratch selecting at the turn.

I've never made it very far in these leagues but the benefit is in the process. Have to keep your FF iron sharpened all year long.

Thanks for a great draft everyone see you soon.

Thoroughly unscientific projections for full year scoring with 1 round to go... based on 2012 results. This is not remotely accurate since a) we know no one will score the same as last year, b)rookies aren't included in the projections, and c) it doesn't take into consideration the "boom/bust"/bestball factor which is critical to this game.What is it good for? S***s and giggles.These are the per game averages in 2012 by position (note: Rookies and others who didn't play at all in 2012 are "null" - neither in the numerator and denominator)

'kardplayer said:

Thoroughly unscientific projections for full year scoring with 1 round to go... based on 2012 results. This is not remotely accurate since a) we know no one will score the same as last year, b)rookies aren't included in the projections, and c) it doesn't take into consideration the "boom/bust"/bestball factor which is critical to this game.What is it good for? S***s and giggles.These are the per game averages in 2012 by position (note: Rookies and others who didn't play at all in 2012 are "null" - neither in the numerator and denominator)

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Team           	DEF	PK	QB	RB	TE	WR	ProjectedS Holloway	 6.79 	 8.00 	 20.74 	 12.57 	 12.73 	 14.69 	 117.48 BusMan   	 10.06 	 7.38 	 21.29 	 10.78 	 17.07 	 11.46 	 111.73 Aaron Rudnicki	 7.59 	 7.26 	 21.34 	 13.96 	 13.62 	 10.91 	 110.47 kardplayer	 8.94 	 8.07 	 23.49 	 11.67 	 12.88 	 10.92 	 109.48 HellToupee	 7.03 	 7.69 	 23.77 	 11.85 	 11.16 	 11.88 	 108.98 Valence	         5.25 	 9.06 	 25.34 	 11.98 	 11.51 	 11.23 	 108.81 teamramrod	 8.72 	 8.59 	 23.31 	 9.90 	 15.02 	 11.08 	 108.68 Norseman	 10.72 	 6.91 	 26.23 	 9.32 	 12.67 	 10.86 	 107.74 Old Milwaukee	 7.59 	 6.00 	 28.52 	 10.82 	 9.75 	 11.05 	 106.64 CommuterMan	 8.41 	 5.94 	 18.92 	 12.11 	 13.95 	 11.73 	 106.62 Domination	 8.22 	 6.60 	 23.75 	 9.51 	 13.20 	 11.46 	 105.19 renesauz	 10.59 	 7.78 	 22.64 	 8.08 	 12.60 	 11.54 	 104.40 oldfatguy	 7.78 	 8.13 	 21.32 	 8.38 	 12.26 	 10.85 	 98.80 Jeter23	         6.16 	 7.03 	 22.56 	 8.99 	 11.50 	 9.83 	 94.71 Reaper	         8.06 	 7.29 	 20.27 	 9.34 	 15.50 	 7.13 	 91.18 Uruk-Hai	 7.19 	 6.09 	 17.32 	 8.64 	 10.72 	 9.37 	 86.71

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Very interesting. Thanks for putting it together and sharing.

'BusMan said:

'kardplayer said:

Thoroughly unscientific projections for full year scoring with 1 round to go... based on 2012 results. This is not remotely accurate since a) we know no one will score the same as last year, b)rookies aren't included in the projections, and c) it doesn't take into consideration the "boom/bust"/bestball factor which is critical to this game.What is it good for? S***s and giggles.These are the per game averages in 2012 by position (note: Rookies and others who didn't play at all in 2012 are "null" - neither in the numerator and denominator)

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Team           	DEF	PK	QB	RB	TE	WR	ProjectedS Holloway	 6.79 	 8.00 	 20.74 	 12.57 	 12.73 	 14.69 	 117.48 BusMan   	 10.06 	 7.38 	 21.29 	 10.78 	 17.07 	 11.46 	 111.73 Aaron Rudnicki	 7.59 	 7.26 	 21.34 	 13.96 	 13.62 	 10.91 	 110.47 kardplayer	 8.94 	 8.07 	 23.49 	 11.67 	 12.88 	 10.92 	 109.48 HellToupee	 7.03 	 7.69 	 23.77 	 11.85 	 11.16 	 11.88 	 108.98 Valence	         5.25 	 9.06 	 25.34 	 11.98 	 11.51 	 11.23 	 108.81 teamramrod	 8.72 	 8.59 	 23.31 	 9.90 	 15.02 	 11.08 	 108.68 Norseman	 10.72 	 6.91 	 26.23 	 9.32 	 12.67 	 10.86 	 107.74 Old Milwaukee	 7.59 	 6.00 	 28.52 	 10.82 	 9.75 	 11.05 	 106.64 CommuterMan	 8.41 	 5.94 	 18.92 	 12.11 	 13.95 	 11.73 	 106.62 Domination	 8.22 	 6.60 	 23.75 	 9.51 	 13.20 	 11.46 	 105.19 renesauz	 10.59 	 7.78 	 22.64 	 8.08 	 12.60 	 11.54 	 104.40 oldfatguy	 7.78 	 8.13 	 21.32 	 8.38 	 12.26 	 10.85 	 98.80 Jeter23	         6.16 	 7.03 	 22.56 	 8.99 	 11.50 	 9.83 	 94.71 Reaper	         8.06 	 7.29 	 20.27 	 9.34 	 15.50 	 7.13 	 91.18 Uruk-Hai	 7.19 	 6.09 	 17.32 	 8.64 	 10.72 	 9.37 	 86.71

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Very interesting. Thanks for putting it together and sharing.

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I'll publish the spreadsheet to google docs when the draft is over - that way everyone can see who's on everyone's team in one easy place ahead of the site being ready.

'OldMilwaukee said:

'kardplayer said:

Thoroughly unscientific projections for full year scoring with 1 round to go... based on 2012 results. This is not remotely accurate since a) we know no one will score the same as last year, b)rookies aren't included in the projections, and c) it doesn't take into consideration the "boom/bust"/bestball factor which is critical to this game.What is it good for? S***s and giggles.These are the per game averages in 2012 by position (note: Rookies and others who didn't play at all in 2012 are "null" - neither in the numerator and denominator)

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Team           	DEF	PK	QB	RB	TE	WR	ProjectedS Holloway	 6.79 	 8.00 	 20.74 	 12.57 	 12.73 	 14.69 	 117.48 BusMan   	 10.06 	 7.38 	 21.29 	 10.78 	 17.07 	 11.46 	 111.73 Aaron Rudnicki	 7.59 	 7.26 	 21.34 	 13.96 	 13.62 	 10.91 	 110.47 kardplayer	 8.94 	 8.07 	 23.49 	 11.67 	 12.88 	 10.92 	 109.48 HellToupee	 7.03 	 7.69 	 23.77 	 11.85 	 11.16 	 11.88 	 108.98 Valence	         5.25 	 9.06 	 25.34 	 11.98 	 11.51 	 11.23 	 108.81 teamramrod	 8.72 	 8.59 	 23.31 	 9.90 	 15.02 	 11.08 	 108.68 Norseman	 10.72 	 6.91 	 26.23 	 9.32 	 12.67 	 10.86 	 107.74 Old Milwaukee	 7.59 	 6.00 	 28.52 	 10.82 	 9.75 	 11.05 	 106.64 CommuterMan	 8.41 	 5.94 	 18.92 	 12.11 	 13.95 	 11.73 	 106.62 Domination	 8.22 	 6.60 	 23.75 	 9.51 	 13.20 	 11.46 	 105.19 renesauz	 10.59 	 7.78 	 22.64 	 8.08 	 12.60 	 11.54 	 104.40 oldfatguy	 7.78 	 8.13 	 21.32 	 8.38 	 12.26 	 10.85 	 98.80 Jeter23	         6.16 	 7.03 	 22.56 	 8.99 	 11.50 	 9.83 	 94.71 Reaper	         8.06 	 7.29 	 20.27 	 9.34 	 15.50 	 7.13 	 91.18 Uruk-Hai	 7.19 	 6.09 	 17.32 	 8.64 	 10.72 	 9.37 	 86.71

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I don't have a kicker?

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I plugged in a score at kicker for you. Didn't want my whole faux analysis to be messed up

Final Squad:4.4 Joe Flacco QB106.4 Andy Dalton QB19Two guys I expect to put up low end QB1 numbers, perhaps even a little higher for Flacco. Neither is sexy, but between them I'm confidant I should get above average production at the position.5.13 BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB247.13 Rashard Mendenhall RB3210.4 Bilal Powell RB4615.13 Felix Jones RB6118.4 Andre Ellington RB6920.04 Roy Helu RB75Obvious weak spot spot on my squad...maybe. If Mendenhall retains a starting gig, this group could be average or better. Ellinton and Helu are swing for the fences late picks, Jones and Powell wil get a few carries most weeks and at least prevent zeros.1.13 A. J. Green WR32.4 Andre Johnson WR63.13 Marques Colston WR189.13 Chris Givens WR5317.13 T. J. Graham WR8419.13 Lavon Brazil WR97Never opened a srvivor with three straight WR picks. Not sure anyone in any league could stack up to my first three. After that kind of investment though, it was a while before I took #4, and a long while for #5. Graham looked good before getting hurt, and is currently listed as the #2 in Buffalo...I honestly think he's been overlooked and forgotten by the FF community. Brazil may or may not expand on his decent rookie campaign. If he simply repeats his production from the second half, he's a worthy a bye week filler at a great price!8.4 Brandon Myers TE1113.13 Robert Housler TE30I honestly don't know much about Myers...just hoping he can reproduce his season. I thought about adding a third to this TE stable in the final turn, and probably should have.11.13 Denver DST #412.4 Houston DST #714.4 Matt Bryant PK #316.4 Alex Henery PK #19Took no chances here. It's tough being near the turn in a 16 team draft. I could have gone elsewhere comfortably where I took Houston, but I didn't know that at the time....the noraml DST run simply didn't happen this year in this draft. Couldn't have waited any longer where I took Henery for a second PK. You can't get but so big an advanatge at PK/DST...but I think I got a small one here.Overall: I feel good not great about this draft. I need Mendenhall to earn a starting gig and get at least a minor hit on a backup RB. My WR's will give me a huge advantage...as long as they stay healthy.

9.03 Carson Palmer QB27 Oak16.14 Mark Sanchez QB34 NYJTrouble... trouble and some more trouble... Both teams will be playing from behind most of the season so my hope is that the 'garbage time' points save me this season... 1.03 Arian Foster RB3 Hou2.14 DeMarco Murray RB15 Dal6.14 Jonathan Stewart RB29 Car8.14 Ryan Williams RB38 AriFour sevicable starters who should be all-around contributers to my squad.3.03 Wes Welker WR12 NE4.14 Justin Blackmon WR24 Jax5.03 Steve Smith WR27 Car10.14 Greg Little WR59 Cle13.03 Ryan Broyles WR69 Det14.14 Cordarelle Patterson WR77 RookI like this group and think that this is the strength of my roster.7.03 Owen Daniesl TE9 Hou12.14 Dustin Keller TE29 NYJ20.14 Ed Dickson TE36 BaltCould surprize here...15.03 Greg Zeurlein K8 Stl17.03 Carson Wiggs K25 Sea19.03 Dustin Hopkins K28 RookGambled on Wiggs if Seattle decides to save some money and not bring back Hauschka... Hopkins is the top PK in the draft this year with a good leg11.03 Seattle DEF218.14 Indianapolis DEF30Seattle is a beast of a defense with good special teams and the Colts are improving...

QB1.12 Drew Brees QB115.12 Blaine Gabbert QB33Happy here. Was going to try and grab a better #2 QB, but decided to roll with Drew and hope for the best on his bye week and his inevitable bad game or two.Seems I took Gabbert a few rounds earlier than most leagues, but I wanted to have a guy who should be starting and the only other option was Sanchez at that point, and I'm already saddled with one Jet.RB4.05 Ryan Matthews RB195.12 Shonn Green RB238.05 Knowshown Moreno RB3510.05 Andre Brown RB4712.05 Danny Woodhead RB52Fingers crossed for some scores here. Woodhead's job is to have two big games and to do it on weeks where it's meaningful. Anything above that is gravy.WR2.05 Dez Bryant WR73.12 Michael Crabtree WR177.12 Andre Roberts WR459.12 Josh Morgan WR5216.05 Jordan Shipley WR7919.12 Damian Williams WR96Like 1 and 2, will be a mad scramble at the #3 spot. Hopefully the Cards get a decent QB to throw to Andre, and he stays a part of the offense.TE6.05 Greg Olsen TE611.12 Lance Kendricks TE2620.05 Luke Stocker TE38Happy here given the rounds taken. Stocker was a flier over Ed Dickson - figured he was more likely to explode... not looking for slow and steady to win this race.PK13.12 Stephen Gostkowski PK217.12 Dan Carpenter PK26As long as they both have jobs, I'll be happy. Would be nice for Gost to stay in NE.DEF14.05 Baltimore Ravens DEF1618.05 Tennessee Titans DEF27Seems like Titans slid a lot vs. other drafts - my only real value pick in this whole list.

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'kardplayer said:

Thoroughly unscientific projections for full year scoring with 1 round to go... based on 2012 results. This is not remotely accurate since a) we know no one will score the same as last year, b)rookies aren't included in the projections, and c) it doesn't take into consideration the "boom/bust"/bestball factor which is critical to this game.What is it good for? S***s and giggles.These are the per game averages in 2012 by position (note: Rookies and others who didn't play at all in 2012 are "null" - neither in the numerator and denominator)

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Team           	DEF	PK	QB	RB	TE	WR	ProjectedS Holloway	 6.79 	 8.00 	 20.74 	 12.57 	 12.73 	 14.69 	 117.48 BusMan   	 10.06 	 7.38 	 21.29 	 10.78 	 17.07 	 11.46 	 111.73 Aaron Rudnicki	 7.59 	 7.26 	 21.34 	 13.96 	 13.62 	 10.91 	 110.47 kardplayer	 8.94 	 8.07 	 23.49 	 11.67 	 12.88 	 10.92 	 109.48 HellToupee	 7.03 	 7.69 	 23.77 	 11.85 	 11.16 	 11.88 	 108.98 Valence	         5.25 	 9.06 	 25.34 	 11.98 	 11.51 	 11.23 	 108.81 teamramrod	 8.72 	 8.59 	 23.31 	 9.90 	 15.02 	 11.08 	 108.68 Norseman	 10.72 	 6.91 	 26.23 	 9.32 	 12.67 	 10.86 	 107.74 Old Milwaukee	 7.59 	 6.00 	 28.52 	 10.82 	 9.75 	 11.05 	 106.64 CommuterMan	 8.41 	 5.94 	 18.92 	 12.11 	 13.95 	 11.73 	 106.62 Domination	 8.22 	 6.60 	 23.75 	 9.51 	 13.20 	 11.46 	 105.19 renesauz	 10.59 	 7.78 	 22.64 	 8.08 	 12.60 	 11.54 	 104.40 oldfatguy	 7.78 	 8.13 	 21.32 	 8.38 	 12.26 	 10.85 	 98.80 Jeter23	         6.16 	 7.03 	 22.56 	 8.99 	 11.50 	 9.83 	 94.71 Reaper	         8.06 	 7.29 	 20.27 	 9.34 	 15.50 	 7.13 	 91.18 Uruk-Hai	 7.19 	 6.09 	 17.32 	 8.64 	 10.72 	 9.37 	 86.71

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Very interesting. Thanks for putting it together and sharing.

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I agree thank you. Football geek ie ness like this is one of the best things about this site.peace

4.12 RG3 QB135.05 Josh Freeman QB16In hindsight I wish i had waited another round to take QB2, but felt I needed to come right back at the position with RG3's question marks. He seems to be ahead of schedule though so not real worried. Could end up being a value pick if all goes well. I flirted with adding Kirk Cousins near the end of the draft, but needed to cover for the Titus Young snafu and the possible issues with Tynes.1.05 Marshawn Lynch RB52.12 Chris Johnson RB149.05 Chris Wells RB4211.05 Joique Bell RB51Only 4 but a solid 4 I feel. Perhaps the best top 2 in the league. Wells will get a job somewhere and hopefully stay healthy. Bell outproduced LeShoure more than once last year and tbh I think the Lions like him more than LeShoure.3.05 Jordy Nelson WR146.12 Danario Alexander WR377.05 Lance Moore WR3910.12 Mohammad Sanu WR5813.05 Julian Edelman WR7016.12 Titus Young WR8119.05 Marquise Goodwin WR91Like my top 5 probably more than most. I'm a DX believer and think he is Mike McCoy's new Demaryius Thomas. Moore is still solid and will produce more like a wr2 at times. Sanu was really coming on before the injury. If Welker ends up moving on then Edelman is in a good spot to take some of that production. Titus Young, I have nothing to say to you. released after 9 days? really? Goodwin impressed at the Senior Bowl and I wouldn't be surprised to see him run a 4.2 40 at the combine. Could easily creep into the 2nd or 3rd round of the NFL draft. I would have liked to have added one more but there were pressing needs elsewhere.8.12 Antonio Gates TE1412.12 Tyler Eifert TE2818.12 Dallas Clark TE36A couple old dudes and a rookie. I know Gates had a pretty abysmal 2012, but I think he fell way too far. I'll take a chance at TE14 off the board. I believe that the San Diego offense as a whole will be undervalued for the 2013 fantasy season. The offensive line should be a top priority in the draft which was by far their biggest issue last season. Rivers should bounce back with more time to throw and that means good things for Gates (and DX). Clark came on towards the end of last season and should be resigned by the Bucs after developing some chemistry with Freeman. Eifert seems to be the most NFL ready TE. If Gonzo doesn't come back maybe Atlanta drafts him and plugs him in right away,14.12 Dallas DST1917.05 Philadelphia DST23got two.15.05 Lawrence Tynes PK1020.12 Caleb Sturgis PK32No idea what happens with Tynes. My hunch is that the Giants don't keep him around, but that he should play somewhere next season at some point. It might not be until later in the year though when a team decides to replace a struggling kicker. Sturgis should be the first or second kicker drafted and will likely start right away.Overall a good but not great team that needs a few things to break its way to have a shot at contending for the title.If anyone would like their team reviewed I'm happy to do so. Thanks for another great draft!

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4.12 RG3 QB135.05 Josh Freeman QB161.05 Marshawn Lynch RB52.12 Chris Johnson RB149.05 Chris Wells RB4211.05 Joique Bell RB513.05 Jordy Nelson WR146.12 Danario Alexander WR377.05 Lance Moore WR3910.12 Mohammad Sanu WR5813.05 Julian Edelman WR7016.12 Titus Young WR8119.05 Marquise Goodwin WR918.12 Antonio Gates TE1412.12 Tyler Eifert TE2818.12 Dallas Clark TE3614.12 Dallas DST1917.05 Philadelphia DST2315.05 Lawrence Tynes PK1020.12 Caleb Sturgis PK32

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Love the QB combo! Value at both picks and I am sure RG3 will go earlier in the next drafts.Not a big fan of your running backs. One of these guys goes down (bet one does) and you could be in trouble.Fine WR corps. Glad you took Young as he was on my radar. lolTE have a lot of risk. I am with you on Gates bouncing back and think you got value there, but a rookie TE in the 12th with a couple of young vets still available? Yeah you had to add a third.Def you got two!Don't think you needed to add a second. Tynes is one of the best and will be sign somewhere (I just hope its not the Gmen)I see your biggest weakness as RB. If they stay healthy you are a contender. If one gets hurt the lack of depth will doom this team.On a side note it was my pleasure drafting with you next to me. Best of luck!

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'valence said:

4.12 RG3 QB135.05 Josh Freeman QB161.05 Marshawn Lynch RB52.12 Chris Johnson RB149.05 Chris Wells RB4211.05 Joique Bell RB513.05 Jordy Nelson WR146.12 Danario Alexander WR377.05 Lance Moore WR3910.12 Mohammad Sanu WR5813.05 Julian Edelman WR7016.12 Titus Young WR8119.05 Marquise Goodwin WR918.12 Antonio Gates TE1412.12 Tyler Eifert TE2818.12 Dallas Clark TE3614.12 Dallas DST1917.05 Philadelphia DST2315.05 Lawrence Tynes PK1020.12 Caleb Sturgis PK32

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Love the QB combo! Value at both picks and I am sure RG3 will go earlier in the next drafts.Not a big fan of your running backs. One of these guys goes down (bet one does) and you could be in trouble.Fine WR corps. Glad you took Young as he was on my radar. lolTE have a lot of risk. I am with you on Gates bouncing back and think you got value there, but a rookie TE in the 12th with a couple of young vets still available? Yeah you had to add a third.Def you got two!Don't think you needed to add a second. Tynes is one of the best and will be sign somewhere (I just hope its not the Gmen)I see your biggest weakness as RB. If they stay healthy you are a contender. If one gets hurt the lack of depth will doom this team.On a side note it was my pleasure drafting with you next to me. Best of luck!

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I wish I would have taken FJax instead of Wells otherwise I guess I disagree. Marshawn Lynch and Chris Johnson were both top 10 guys last year that didn't miss a game. Not sure how much more you can ask from them. Wells obviously has health concerns. Bell didn't miss any time either and only scored about 30 fantasy points less than LeShoure on 120 less carries (80 for Bell through week 16 vs 200 for LeShoure through week 16)

'BusMan said:

Final Squad

QB Russell Wilson

QB Jake Locker

RB Frank Gore

RB Mikel Leshoure

RB Robert Turbin

RB Stepfan Taylor

RB Cedric Benson

WR Julio Jones

WR Cecil Shorts

WR Brian Hartline

WR Nate Washington

WR Devone Bess

WR Brandon Gibson

WR Brandon Stokley

TE Jimmy Graham

TE Martellus Bennett

PK Steven Hauschka

PK Shuan Suisham

DEF Cincinnati Bengals

DEF San Diego Chargers

QB - Wilson and Locker are young, have job security, and have wheels. Not the best combo but a very serviceable duo with a high weekly floor.

RB - Gore is the centerpiece, which is a sketchy proposition. To be fair, he looked great with Kaepernick in the backfield. He is getting old and has young talent to attempt to hold off for the bulk of the carries in San Fran. Leshoure seems adequate as a second back. Turbin, Taylor and Benson are depth that I'll need to luck into some production. Seeing where Taylor goes and how he fits with his new team will be crucial. Not a strong position.

WR - Seven deep. Seems I manged to mix some PPR consistency (Shorts, Bess, Gibson) with a couple high-ceiling types (Jones, Hartline). Washington and Stokley are weekly scoring threats, despite not getting a ton of targets. Don't love this group but I like them A LOT.

TE - When you take Graham in the first round you know you're not going to roll three deep at the position. I'll live and die with him most weeks. Bennett seems decent as a backup, provided he plays more like early season Black Unicorn and not the de-horned late-in-2012 version.

PK/DEF - Might've overpaid for DEF but it was an itch I had to scratch selecting at the turn.

I've never made it very far in these leagues but the benefit is in the process. Have to keep your FF iron sharpened all year long.

Thanks for a great draft everyone see you soon.

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We're taking some serious hits in free agency.

'jeter23 said:

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'BassNBrew said:

Every week trr survives is another week the rest of the league basically has a bye week.

Sorry to say trr, but this hasn't been one of your best efforts.

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1.14 teamramrod - Demaryius Thomas WR4will be top ten next year, Go Payton Go

2.3 teamramrod - Alfred Morris RB10

Someone has to run it and RB is a young man's game

3.14 teamramrod - Matthew Stafford QB8

Who else has won the Comeback Player of the Year Award twice

4.3 teamramrod - Heath Miller TE5

Solid TE at the draft spot and what else was on the board

5.14 teamramrod - Mike Williams WR33

Break out year baby, not bad for my WR2

6.3 teamramrod - Jaquizz Rodgers RB26

Turner is still on the board, so the draft thinks JR will be the starter next year

7.14 teamramrod - Denarius Moore WR46

I wear glasses with the chain on them , so this is my holla back to the mad genius

8.3 teamramrod - Ryan Fitzpatrick QB24

QB 2 that is a starter, only room to improve here.

2 Qbs

2 RBs

3 WRs

1 TE

Now I can go into 9-16 grabbing WRs, a TE or two and a 3rd RB.

Its my strategy. It is also WSL. A lot of looking in the rear view mirror of 2012 here. But it helps to polish my spring draft by getting "what have you done for me" out of my system.

Peace

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I like most of your picks, but the Miller and Fitzpatrick picks surprised me. Miller's status is unknown with the knee injury and Fitzpatrick could easily be replacedvia FA or the draft. I liked the rest.

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Jeter23

Team Holloway6.13 Matt Schaub QB (8) Houston11.14 Geno Smith QB (?) Rookie

20.13 Tyler Wilson QB (?) Rookie1.4 Doug Martin RB (5) TB9.4 Shane Vereen RB (10) NE

16.13 Joseph Randle RB (?) Rookie17.4 Christine Michael RB(?) Rookie

2.13 Roddy White WR (6) ATL3.4 Vincent Jackson WR (5) TB4.13 Steve Johnson WR (12) BUF5.4 Greg Jennings WR (5) Minn12.7 Keenan Allen WR (?) Rookie7.4 Kyle Rudolph TE (5) MIN8.13 Jermichael Finley TE (4) GB

10.13 Brent Celek TE (12) PHI13.4 Green Bay Packers (4) DST

18.13 Tampa Bay Bucs (5) DST

19.4 Jacksonville Jags (9) DST

14.13 Justin Tucker PK (8) Balt

15.4 Dan Bailey PK (11) Dallas

Selections from rounds 1, 3, 5, 7. and 18 all on bye in week 5 when only four teams are on bye. At least its early. Only three active wide receivers that week and one is a rookie.

I'll have only Daniel Thomas as a running back week 7.

kardplayer said:

QB

1.12 Drew Brees QB1 (Bye week 7)

15.12 Blaine Gabbert QB33 (9)

Happy here. Was going to try and grab a better #2 QB, but decided to roll with Drew and hope for the best on his bye week and his inevitable bad game or two.

Seems I took Gabbert a few rounds earlier than most leagues, but I wanted to have a guy who should be starting and the only other option was Sanchez at that point, and I'm already saddled with one Jet.

Different Bye Weeks - whew... Gabbert gets Chargers on Drew's bye week

RB

4.05 Ryan Matthews RB19 (8)

5.12 Shonn Green RB23 (8)

8.05 Knowshown Moreno RB35 (9)

10.05 Andre Brown RB47 (9)

12.05 Danny Woodhead RB52 (8)

Fingers crossed for some scores here. Woodhead's job is to have two big games and to do it on weeks where it's meaningful. Anything above that is gravy

Big bye week issues here for a squad that was already pretty weak

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kardplayer said:

WR

2.05 Dez Bryant WR7 (11)

3.12 Michael Crabtree WR17 (9)

7.12 Andre Roberts WR45 (9)

9.12 Josh Morgan WR52 (5)

16.05 Jordan Shipley WR79 (9)

19.12 Damian Williams WR96 (8)

Like 1 and 2, will be a mad scramble at the #3 spot. Hopefully the Cards get a decent QB to throw to Andre, and he stays a part of the offense.

Week 9 will be rough.

TE

6.05 Greg Olsen TE6 (4)

11.12 Lance Kendricks TE26 (11)

20.05 Luke Stocker TE38 (5)

Happy here given the rounds taken. Stocker was a flier over Ed Dickson - figured he was more likely to explode... not looking for slow and steady to win this race.

At least these guys are all playing week 8 and 9

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kardplayer said:

PK

13.12 Stephen Gostkowski PK2 (10)

17.12 Dan Carpenter PK26 (6)

As long as they both have jobs, I'll be happy. Would be nice for Gost to stay in NE.

Different Bye Weeks - whew...

DEF

14.05 Baltimore Ravens DEF16 (8)

18.05 Tennessee Titans DEF27 (8)

Seems like Titans slid a lot vs. other drafts - my only real value pick in this whole list.

Same Bye Week ... ^(*^& plus it's a week I was already weak

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Team Holloway6.13 Matt Schaub QB (8) Houston11.14 Geno Smith QB (10) NYJ Rookie

20.13 Tyler Wilson QB (7) Oak Rookie1.4 Doug Martin RB (5) TB9.4 Shane Vereen RB (10) NE

16.13 Joseph Randle RB (11) Dallas Rookie17.4 Christine Michael RB(12) Seattle Rookie

2.13 Roddy White WR (6) ATL3.4 Vincent Jackson WR (5) TB4.13 Steve Johnson WR (12) BUF5.4 Greg Jennings WR (5) Minn12.7 Keenan Allen WR (8) SD Rookie7.4 Kyle Rudolph TE (5) MIN8.13 Jermichael Finley TE (4) GB

10.13 Brent Celek TE (12) PHI13.4 Green Bay Packers (4) DST

18.13 Tampa Bay Bucs (5) DST

19.4 Jacksonville Jags (9) DST

14.13 Justin Tucker PK (8) Balt

15.4 Dan Bailey PK (11) Dallas

Selections from rounds 1, 3, 5, 7. and 18 all on bye in week 5 when only four teams are on bye. At least its early. Only three active wide receivers that week and one is a rookie.

Stephen Holloway said:

Team Holloway6.13 Matt Schaub QB (8) Houston11.14 Geno Smith QB (10) NYJ Rookie

20.13 Tyler Wilson QB (7) Oak Rookie1.4 Doug Martin RB (5) TB9.4 Shane Vereen RB (10) NE

16.13 Joseph Randle RB (11) Dallas Rookie17.4 Christine Michael RB(12) Seattle Rookie

2.13 Roddy White WR (6) ATL3.4 Vincent Jackson WR (5) TB4.13 Steve Johnson WR (12) BUF5.4 Greg Jennings WR (5) Minn12.7 Keenan Allen WR (8) SD Rookie7.4 Kyle Rudolph TE (5) MIN8.13 Jermichael Finley TE (4) GB

10.13 Brent Celek TE (12) PHI13.4 Green Bay Packers (4) DST

18.13 Tampa Bay Bucs (5) DST

19.4 Jacksonville Jags (9) DST

14.13 Justin Tucker PK (8) Balt

15.4 Dan Bailey PK (11) Dallas

Selections from rounds 1, 3, 5, 7. and 18 all on bye in week 5 when only four teams are on bye. At least its early. Only three active wide receivers that week and one is a rookie.

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Not sure why you when 1/4 rookies picks in both early leagues.

With a solid first round running back, I wanted to shift focus elsewhere. Felt like I got a really strong top 4 wide receivers so I waited late and added what I thought was a strong ppr candidate in Allen. Probably needed another body and might should have gone there in the last round, by homer pick of Wilson was taken.

Regarding running backs, it is getting more challenging to identify full-time players, so I got what should be a three down back in the first round and then added a receiving threat and two rather highly respected rookies. I like Randle's landing spot in Dallas, but Michael may not get many opportunities.

I am hopeful that Geno Smith can supplant Sanchez and start for the Jets. Risky strategy, but these drafts often reward risk and occasionally punish with bye week distributions, even if you go conservative.