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I am trying to avoid the term "Buy Low" as it seems subjective and every league is different. But who is on your list to hopefully acquire the off-season, and why? Stevan Ridley: I've always been a Ridley fan, but I've gone back and forth on his dynasty value; early on bought everywhere, later, tried to sell. The pendulum is swinging back and he's on my buy list. He is very situation dependant, so invest accordingly, but I think his role is safe. I personally don't feel that Vereen is a threat to Ridley's role, but rather carving out a separate niche. I think Ridley's production/age ratio is not valued quite as much as it should be. In leagues where RBs are especially valuable, Ridley seems like a guy whose owners will at least listen; and in many leagues - that's something. Cecil Shorts: After going back and watching some Jacksonville games, I'm sold. He's still very much under the radar, and the hobby is going to require that he "do it again" before they value what his talent/youth warrants. I hope to buy him before he does it again. Concussions are scary but he hasn't had Collie/Jackson/Best concussion yet. I'll take that risk into account, but his price is so low that it won't hinder my pursuit. Justin Blackmon: He's not a Bryant/Julio/Green level talent, but Hakeem Nicks/Michael Crabtree is a possibility, if not likely. His pro-rated 2nd half season numbers are very nice. His route running appeared to "click" and he has always been a threat after the catch. Cam Newton: The new toy feel seems to be wearing off for many owners and he is no longer un-touchable. But shouldn't he be? He has the most fantasy points over a two year span for a QB starting their career...ever. The slow start was as much external issues as it was Cam, and once the play-calling and scheme was adjusted, he bounced right back. There are more and more running QBs coming into the league and that does threaten Cam's potential - the more providing what he provides, the less valuable he is. But not many of them are as smart about running (sliding, getting down/out of bounds) and none of them are 6'6" 250. The running QB, as he is used today, is still an experiment at the NFL level. But Cam is a guy I am willing to bet on staying healthy; not so much with the others. Jordy Nelson: Hamstrings suck and limit production. Expect big things in 2013; 2011-like things. Cobb is not a threat to Jordy's production. Miles Austin/Hakeem Nicks/DMC/ Demarco Murray: Token injury nominees. Gambles I am usually willing to make - sometimes they pay off, sometimes they don't. But they're fun. Dwayne Harris: Talented WR3's can produce in Garrett's offense. Harris is that. He reminds me a bit of what Miles Austin was before he broke out. Won't project that kind of breakout, but he can be productive. Miles Austin is not a lock to make the roster, and Harris would have a good shot to start opposite Dez. Maurice Jones-Drew: He's simply the cheapest threat to be a 3-down, pass catching, goal line back. I think the dynasty community can often undervalue SINGLE top 5-8 RB seasons. MJD would be worth his current price if he only gave us one more. 2 more and he's a steal. He is the type of special talent that I could see playing into his 30's. His knees scare me more than his age. Rob Housler: How is this guy not getting more buzz? Fast, athletic, starting TE whose new GM loves him and due a major QB upgrade. High 3rd round pick despite being raw - my kind of buy.

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Nice ListDavid WilsonLamar MillerRueben RandleBrandon LaFellWilson and Blackmon are very expensive Groceries at the moment though

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I already bought Nelson so I like that call. Crabtree. Just when I thought he got too expensive maybe the new arrest isdue brings it back down..- and if I cant get him I'll go for AJ Jenkins as a throw in type. David Wilson. Enough threads already about him. Daryl Richardson. Drafted him in one league already and in a mock and both times people were upset and hoping he'd drop. Some might doubt his imvolvement though.Britt. Not because Im super high on him but someone might be ready to give up.-Kendall Wright because of his talent but Britt's injury/ offseason will make him valuable as a sell high if Britt does miss time again due to either. Or just keep Wright as a solid WR2/3Maclin- Maybe missed the buy low with Chip now in town

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Maclin- Maybe missed the buy low with Chip now in town

Good call. Agree that he should be targeted.

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Successfully plucked up Ryan Williams and Hakeem Nicks so far.Beanie is on the way out, the other RB's aren't the answer, the front office will be focusing on other areas of the team this offseason, and Arians has already spoke glowingly about Williams. Moderate risk/high reward guy.I think Nicks' offseason foot injury was the problem last year, get to the Nicks owner while he is frustrated.I also like the MJD and Jordy calls, both seem reasonable acquisitions - from both a cost perspective and an owner likely to be looking to move them. Personally, I find it difficult to pry young guys off other owners. Makes sense too. Being the Dwayne Harris owner, he isn't going anywhere. He won't net much in a trade, unless I think there's no chance he pans out he makes the most sense on my roster as a wait and see dart. Younger guys that had strong second half's too - yeah, I'd love to get my hands on Blackmon, Crabtree, David Wilson, etc. but...are there owners really going to be looking to sell?

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I am trying to avoid the term "Buy Low" as it seems subjective and every league is different. But who is on your list to hopefully acquire the off-season, and why? Stevan Ridley: I've always been a Ridley fan, but I've gone back and forth on his dynasty value; early on bought everywhere, later, tried to sell. The pendulum is swinging back and he's on my buy list. He is very situation dependant, so invest accordingly, but I think his role is safe. I personally don't feel that Vereen is a threat to Ridley's role, but rather carving out a separate niche. I think Ridley's production/age ratio is not valued quite as much as it should be. In leagues where RBs are especially valuable, Ridley seems like a guy whose owners will at least listen; and in many leagues - that's something. Cecil Shorts: After going back and watching some Jacksonville games, I'm sold. He's still very much under the radar, and the hobby is going to require that he "do it again" before they value what his talent/youth warrants. I hope to buy him before he does it again. Concussions are scary but he hasn't had Collie/Jackson/Best concussion yet. I'll take that risk into account, but his price is so low that it won't hinder my pursuit. Justin Blackmon: He's not a Bryant/Julio/Green level talent, but Hakeem Nicks/Michael Crabtree is a possibility, if not likely. His pro-rated 2nd half season numbers are very nice. His route running appeared to "click" and he has always been a threat after the catch. Cam Newton: The new toy feel seems to be wearing off for many owners and he is no longer un-touchable. But shouldn't he be? He has the most fantasy points over a two year span for a QB starting their career...ever. The slow start was as much external issues as it was Cam, and once the play-calling and scheme was adjusted, he bounced right back. There are more and more running QBs coming into the league and that does threaten Cam's potential - the more providing what he provides, the less valuable he is. But not many of them are as smart about running (sliding, getting down/out of bounds) and none of them are 6'6" 250. The running QB, as he is used today, is still an experiment at the NFL level. But Cam is a guy I am willing to bet on staying healthy; not so much with the others. Jordy Nelson: Hamstrings suck and limit production. Expect big things in 2013; 2011-like things. Cobb is not a threat to Jordy's production. Miles Austin/Hakeem Nicks/DMC/ Demarco Murray: Token injury nominees. Gambles I am usually willing to make - sometimes they pay off, sometimes they don't. But they're fun. Dwayne Harris: Talented WR3's can produce in Garrett's offense. Harris is that. He reminds me a bit of what Miles Austin was before he broke out. Won't project that kind of breakout, but he can be productive. Miles Austin is not a lock to make the roster, and Harris would have a good shot to start opposite Dez. Maurice Jones-Drew: He's simply the cheapest threat to be a 3-down, pass catching, goal line back. I think the dynasty community can often undervalue SINGLE top 5-8 RB seasons. MJD would be worth his current price if he only gave us one more. 2 more and he's a steal. He is the type of special talent that I could see playing into his 30's. His knees scare me more than his age. Rob Housler: How is this guy not getting more buzz? Fast, athletic, starting TE whose new GM loves him and due a major QB upgrade. High 3rd round pick despite being raw - my kind of buy.

Nice list. I like the Shorts call, but the current owner in my league won't budge on him. What exactly are you offering and considering his price being so low?The only one on this list I have a chance of grabbing is MJD, but RB is my super strength so no need. I love Housler, but was late to get him, and his current owner is convinced he's the next Graham, mainly because he also owns Graham, and spent a 1 round rookie pick on him, and everyone at the time was calling him crazy, who's laughing now :(.

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Dwayne Harris: Talented WR3's can produce in Garrett's offense. Harris is that. He reminds me a bit of what Miles Austin was before he broke out. Won't project that kind of breakout, but he can be productive. Miles Austin is not a lock to make the roster, and Harris would have a good shot to start opposite Dez.

I've dismissed several other people that have pimped Harris because I don't view their posting opinions that strongly. However, I might have to look more at this guy, because my brief research in the past steered me away from him.

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Maclin- Maybe missed the buy low with Chip now in town

Good call. Agree that he should be targeted.
Maclin is one of the most overrated WRs out there.

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Cutler seems like a good buy right now. Things are going to change in Chicago and I can see him returning to the top 10-12 fantasy QB range. Tresman has a history of doing more with less.

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Shorts and Blackmon -- I agree, I liked the talent and 2H production from both. I keep asking myself, though, what's my goal in locking up 2 JAC WRs? Say I have Calvin Johnson as my WR1, am I really winning rolling out Shorts and Blackmon as my WR2 and WR3 every week? And if I'm not, are they really worth much when I could get guys like Bess and Hartline, Rice and Baldwin, DHB and Moore, Baldwin and Breaston, etc. for less to significantly less? I'm waiting a year on these guys, there's enough Tebow and MJD comeback risk that I'd rather invest elsewhere and buy even lower if the opportunity presents.

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Cutler seems like a good buy right now. Things are going to change in Chicago and I can see him returning to the top 10-12 fantasy QB range. Tresman has a history of doing more with less.

Along these same lines, Forte as well?

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Rob Housler: How is this guy not getting more buzz? Fast, athletic, starting TE whose new GM loves him and due a major QB upgrade. High 3rd round pick despite being raw - my kind of buy.

Hell, if Larry Fitzgerald is irrelevant in that offense I doubt Housler has much of a chance. Here is hoping they fix their QB situation. If they don't, I'm not buying any Arizona WR or TE. Edited by JohnnyU

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Nice list. I like the Shorts call, but the current owner in my league won't budge on him. What exactly are you offering and considering his price being so low?

Value him as a mid-level WR2. I didn't pay too much attention to him until after the season, because I wasn't catching many Jags games. But I really like him. He's riskier than Cruz was, but like Cruz's breakout season - Shorts was making plays at a very high rate. I like that he can play in the slot, but can more than hold his own on the outside. He's faster than Cruz, but not nearly as polished. Cruz had a higher catch rate, but I think some of that is their QB play. Their seasons really aren't that far off, Cruz just didn't it for longer stretch. The question I have is: can Shorts transform his game like Cruz was forced to do this season, once the attention starts to increase? I am considering his price being low primarily from the start-ups and mocks I have seen. In my only startup I picked him up in the 7th and was really thinking about taking him in the 5th, ahead of Eric Decker.

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Maclin- Maybe missed the buy low with Chip now in town

Good call. Agree that he should be targeted.
Maclin is one of the most overrated WRs out there.
By whom and based on what?

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Cutler seems like a good buy right now. Things are going to change in Chicago and I can see him returning to the top 10-12 fantasy QB range. Tresman has a history of doing more with less.

I don't agree that he is a good trade target, what's his upside? A below average starter? I mean, if you don't have a good backup and can get him for dirt cheap, sure, but not seeing a good reason he would be a priority.

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Maclin- Maybe missed the buy low with Chip now in town

Good call. Agree that he should be targeted.
Maclin is one of the most overrated WRs out there.
By whom and based on what?
I don't think over rated is the right word, but I certainly don't think he is a meaningful target. If his owner has soured on him to the point you can get him for backup prices, sure, he's nice depth. I don't see the every week starter appeal though.

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I've dismissed several other people that have pimped Harris because I don't view their posting opinions that strongly. However, I might have to look more at this guy, because my brief research in the past steered me away from him.

I would look into him. His situation is deceptively good for a guy with his talents. He is not suited to be a slot guy, in my opinion. But when the Cowboys go 3 WR, they can put Austin in the slot; when they go 4, Beasley goes in. So he shouldn't be forced into being something he is not. And he can make plays and get open deep. Top level speed and what I would call solid hands. In general, I am interested in picking up the cheaper Cowboys options, too. 2 upgrades on their O-line and they could be what NYG was before Eli's arm called it a night.

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Rob Housler: How is this guy not getting more buzz? Fast, athletic, starting TE whose new GM loves him and due a major QB upgrade. High 3rd round pick despite being raw - my kind of buy.

Hell, if Larry Fitzgerald is irrelevant in that offense I doubt Housler has much of a chance. Here is hoping they fix their QB situation. If they don't, I'm not buying any Arizona WR or TE.
If you're going to try to buy either you need to do it before they fix the QB situation - not after, it's why I snagged Fitz last year.

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Hell, if Larry Fitzgerald is irrelevant in that offense I doubt Housler has much of a chance. Here is hoping they fix their QB situation. If they don't, I'm not buying any Arizona WR or TE.

His situation is the reason he is still affordable. Thanfully for him, it will improve before he ever plays another snap. And when that happens, I think his value rises dramatically.

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Shorts and Blackmon -- I agree, I liked the talent and 2H production from both. I keep asking myself, though, what's my goal in locking up 2 JAC WRs? Say I have Calvin Johnson as my WR1, am I really winning rolling out Shorts and Blackmon as my WR2 and WR3 every week? And if I'm not, are they really worth much when I could get guys like Bess and Hartline, Rice and Baldwin, DHB and Moore, Baldwin and Breaston, etc. for less to significantly less? I'm waiting a year on these guys, there's enough Tebow and MJD comeback risk that I'd rather invest elsewhere and buy even lower if the opportunity presents.

Tebow isn't going there, like the Arizona guys if you want either of them you need to get in before they fix QB. I'm not high enough on Shorts to make him a target, although I certainly see the appeal. I'd be surprised if you can get Blackmon after the way he finished the season, his owner would be silly to let him go for anything less than he paid for him last year.

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Cutler seems like a good buy right now. Things are going to change in Chicago and I can see him returning to the top 10-12 fantasy QB range. Tresman has a history of doing more with less.

Along these same lines, Forte as well?
PPR wise, Forte should be ok. Looking at Trestman's history, his playcalling is pass heavy. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/TresMa0.htm

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Hell, if Larry Fitzgerald is irrelevant in that offense I doubt Housler has much of a chance. Here is hoping they fix their QB situation. If they don't, I'm not buying any Arizona WR or TE.

His situation is the reason he is still affordable. Thanfully for him, it will improve before he ever plays another snap. And when that happens, I think his value rises dramatically.
As a Fitz owner, I think the ship has already sailed on buying him low. I don't think you are getting him for less than WR12-15 level prices. (Though you may, of course, assume that price is still low for him).The new coach is already in place, and everyone is already under the assumption that he brings in a new QB. Now, if Zona decides to have a 1-year stopgap QB in Matt Moore or Alex Smith, their perceived weaknesses could drive his price back lower again.

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Shorts and Blackmon -- I agree, I liked the talent and 2H production from both. I keep asking myself, though, what's my goal in locking up 2 JAC WRs? Say I have Calvin Johnson as my WR1, am I really winning rolling out Shorts and Blackmon as my WR2 and WR3 every week? And if I'm not, are they really worth much when I could get guys like Bess and Hartline, Rice and Baldwin, DHB and Moore, Baldwin and Breaston, etc. for less to significantly less? I'm waiting a year on these guys, there's enough Tebow and MJD comeback risk that I'd rather invest elsewhere and buy even lower if the opportunity presents.

I haven't adjusted my thinking or rankings for Tebow. If he ends up in Jax, it is far from a given that he wins the job. And I could have sworn I recently heard that they won't be bringing him in. Could be wrong there, though. The reason to lock it up, in my opinion, is talent. Roll them out as your WR2/3 and you'll likely have two of the most talented guys at those spots in your league. And eventually (potentially soon), I think you'll have two of the most productive at that spot too.Also, they both play different positions and do different things, so I don't expect them to compete for targets, but rather compliment each other the way Nicks/Cruz do when healthy.

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Shorts and Blackmon -- I agree, I liked the talent and 2H production from both. I keep asking myself, though, what's my goal in locking up 2 JAC WRs? Say I have Calvin Johnson as my WR1, am I really winning rolling out Shorts and Blackmon as my WR2 and WR3 every week? And if I'm not, are they really worth much when I could get guys like Bess and Hartline, Rice and Baldwin, DHB and Moore, Baldwin and Breaston, etc. for less to significantly less? I'm waiting a year on these guys, there's enough Tebow and MJD comeback risk that I'd rather invest elsewhere and buy even lower if the opportunity presents.

I haven't adjusted my thinking or rankings for Tebow. If he ends up in Jax, it is far from a given that he wins the job. And I could have sworn I recently heard that they won't be bringing him in. Could be wrong there, though.
You are correct, new GM was specifically asked about Tebow during his opening presser and he firmly replied no, more than once iirc.

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Maclin- Maybe missed the buy low with Chip now in town

Good call. Agree that he should be targeted.
Maclin is one of the most overrated WRs out there.
By whom and based on what?
Exactly. Depends on how you value him. Thats why its a target not a must own list . If the other owner values him more you don't make a trade.

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Exactly. Depends on how you value him. Thats why its a target not a must own list . If the other owner values him more you don't make a trade.

He is 24 YO former 1st round pick and the #1 WR on a team that is likely to throw the ball around. And if he is overrated - not in my leagues or the in the very small ADP data we have.

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Exactly. Depends on how you value him. Thats why its a target not a must own list . If the other owner values him more you don't make a trade.

He is 24 YO former 1st round pick and the #1 WR on a team that is likely to throw the ball around. And if he is overrated - not in my leagues or the in the very small ADP data we have.
Right. Im in your side here. I agree

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Successfully plucked up Ryan Williams and Hakeem Nicks so far.Beanie is on the way out, the other RB's aren't the answer, the front office will be focusing on other areas of the team this offseason, and Arians has already spoke glowingly about Williams. Moderate risk/high reward guy.I think Nicks' offseason foot injury was the problem last year, get to the Nicks owner while he is frustrated.I also like the MJD and Jordy calls, both seem reasonable acquisitions - from both a cost perspective and an owner likely to be looking to move them. Personally, I find it difficult to pry young guys off other owners. Makes sense too. Being the Dwayne Harris owner, he isn't going anywhere. He won't net much in a trade, unless I think there's no chance he pans out he makes the most sense on my roster as a wait and see dart. Younger guys that had strong second half's too - yeah, I'd love to get my hands on Blackmon, Crabtree, David Wilson, etc. but...are there owners really going to be looking to sell?

Added Ryan Williams myself this week. Also looking at Shorts and Gordon, but the Gordon owner isn't moving at all and holding out for 1.04+ so may have to settle with Shorts.

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Varying level of prices. Wilson, Hilton, Garcon and Rudolph are all going to cost a decent amount, but think all 3 would be great buys at full price. The rest, might be able to be bought at reasonable value depending on the owners. David Wilson Lamaar MillerRashard MendenhallJacquizz Rodgers - PPR leagues only.TY HiltonKendall WrightGolden TateAntonio BrownPierre GarconRyan BroylesMichael FloydKyle RudolphDwayne Allen

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Cutler seems like a good buy right now. Things are going to change in Chicago and I can see him returning to the top 10-12 fantasy QB range. Tresman has a history of doing more with less.

I don't agree that he is a good trade target, what's his upside? A below average starter? I mean, if you don't have a good backup and can get him for dirt cheap, sure, but not seeing a good reason he would be a priority.
I think he has top 10 potential, and yes he is dirt cheap, so why not take the flier. The guy just got a QB guru to be his new HC. There is no doubt Cutler will be putting up more points next year. This isn't a swing for the fence type move, but a low risk and solid reward. The names I normally see in these threads are guys who either up and coming or good players coming off bad years. In my leagues, those guys aren't dealt with much of a discount. As an owner of guys like Nicks, MJD and Blackmon, I'm not looking to trade them and would really only do so if the other owner is offering more than I feel they are worth. Last year I went after Heath Miller, who cost me nothing (Greg Childs to be exact) and that turned out pretty well. These are the type of moves I like to look for at this point in the offseason. Players who have talent and were limited by the old system their team was running.

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Exactly. Depends on how you value him. Thats why its a target not a must own list . If the other owner values him more you don't make a trade.

He is 24 YO former 1st round pick and the #1 WR on a team that is likely to throw the ball around. And if he is overrated - not in my leagues or the in the very small ADP data we have.
Haven't the Eagles always tossed the ball around a ton? The results have been basically Torrey Smith, with a touch more receptions.

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Exactly. Depends on how you value him. Thats why its a target not a must own list . If the other owner values him more you don't make a trade.

He is 24 YO former 1st round pick and the #1 WR on a team that is likely to throw the ball around. And if he is overrated - not in my leagues or the in the very small ADP data we have.
Don't necessarily agree about the Eagles becoming a pass-heavy team. It's not Kelly's M.O. but then again his roster isn't built like his teams usually are, so keeping an open mind about what exactly he is going to do until I see it take shape.Re Maclin the #1 WR - he has a lot of struggles staying on the field and when he is on there he has not been a difference maker. He's been...alright. More promise than production though.

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Re Maclin the #1 WR - he has a lot of struggles staying on the field and when he is on there he has not been a difference maker. He's been...alright. More promise than production though.

Look at WR's production with Vick at QB and without him. I would love to see Maclin with a guy who is able to regularly hit him in stride on the intermediate routes.

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Cutler seems like a good buy right now. Things are going to change in Chicago and I can see him returning to the top 10-12 fantasy QB range. Tresman has a history of doing more with less.

I don't agree that he is a good trade target, what's his upside? A below average starter? I mean, if you don't have a good backup and can get him for dirt cheap, sure, but not seeing a good reason he would be a priority.
I think he has top 10 potential, and yes he is dirt cheap, so why not take the flier. The guy just got a QB guru to be his new HC. There is no doubt Cutler will be putting up more points next year. This isn't a swing for the fence type move, but a low risk and solid reward. The names I normally see in these threads are guys who either up and coming or good players coming off bad years. In my leagues, those guys aren't dealt with much of a discount. As an owner of guys like Nicks, MJD and Blackmon, I'm not looking to trade them and would really only do so if the other owner is offering more than I feel they are worth. Last year I went after Heath Miller, who cost me nothing (Greg Childs to be exact) and that turned out pretty well. These are the type of moves I like to look for at this point in the offseason. Players who have talent and were limited by the old system their team was running.
I am in the market for a solid backup with the uncertainty around RG3, Cutler just wasn't one of the first names to come to mind. In fact the Cutler owner in my league currently in rebuild mode is sitting on him and Rivers. I would rather have Rivers, for a backup anyway. Due to age, recent decline, and Cutler's coaching upgrade he is probably cheaper and I think they have similar short term ceilings.I'd just be surprised if you can get Cutler for less than a good QB2 price and his upside is low QB1. Uninspiring imho.

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Re Maclin the #1 WR - he has a lot of struggles staying on the field and when he is on there he has not been a difference maker. He's been...alright. More promise than production though.

Look at WR's production with Vick at QB and without him. I would love to see Maclin with a guy who is able to regularly hit him in stride on the intermediate routes.
That guy currently isn't on the roster, is Kelly going to bring someone else in? and whoever it is will it be something in the typical Kelly mold? or will he break form if he doesn't see a typical Chip QB available and sees a better one? I don't know, I think it's different than Arizona and Jax because I feel more comfortable those teams are looking for downfield passers. I'm not so sure Chip is. And even if he is does Maclin have much more upside than he has shown to date? 4 years and zero 1K+ seasons, consistently in the 60-70 rec range. Meh.

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Haven't the Eagles always tossed the ball around a ton? The results have been basically Torrey Smith, with a touch more receptions.

No. Not with Vick.Vick has only 2x 3,000 yard seasons (barely) and has never thrown for more than 21 TDs. Never more than 423 attemps in a season. I don't see any reason Maclin can't greatly increase his catch total playing in a less traditional, more spread out offense where he can use his quickness more effectively. Edited by Concept Coop

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That guy currently isn't on the roster, is Kelly going to bring someone else in? and whoever it is will it be something in the typical Kelly mold? or will he break form if he doesn't see a typical Chip QB available and sees a better one? I don't know, I think it's different than Arizona and Jax because I feel more comfortable those teams are looking for downfield passers. I'm not so sure Chip is. And even if he is does Maclin have much more upside than he has shown to date? 4 years and zero 1K+ seasons, consistently in the 60-70 rec range. Meh.

You're giving me reasons why his value is low; tell me why it should be. Chip can't run as much as he did at Oregon and win; he will be passing the ball more. And he will spread it out more than Reid did which will help Maclin's numbers. Maclin's catch totals went up by a good margin with Foles at QB, even. Give me an upgrade over Foles, and I'm expecting some nice things.

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Not sure how I forgot about this, but...Ingram. Payton knew he under utilized him his rookie year and he didn't get a chance to correct the problem last year. He will this year.

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Not sure how I forgot about this, but...Ingram. Payton knew he under utilized him his rookie year and he didn't get a chance to correct the problem last year. He will this year.

I agree.

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Haven't the Eagles always tossed the ball around a ton? The results have been basically Torrey Smith, with a touch more receptions.

No. Not with Vick.Vick has only 2x 3,000 yard seasons (barely) and has never thrown for more than 21 TDs. Never more than 423 attemps in a season. I don't see any reason Maclin can't greatly increase his catch total playing in a less traditional, more spread out offense where he can use his quickness more effectively.
Well, their team passing attempts per year is above average...2012: 7th2011: 13th2010: 11th2009: 12th

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