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If he's capable of scoring every play, why only get 7 touches? He's obviously very talented and explosive but I would like see more touches. I think with only 7 touches he will be very inconsistent. I started him in the league I have him in but he still scares me as an every week starter.jurb26 said:
7 touches isn't that bad for a WR, and his play is screaming for more.
Then stick around, it's just the first game. A game in which they won by 28 points and were probably being conservative. Cassel attempted a grand total of 6 passes in the fourth quarter.
As a WR, Harvin is still much better than Patterson. Patterson is electric and only gonna get better, but he has only put up 485 receiving yards in 17 NFL games to date. Let's not overrate him just yet.jurb26 said:
I am responding to the post where the poster is happy with 7 touches a game. I think that's not enough. They probably did get conservative with him at the end. I would make sure this guy touches the ball at least once every series somehow.
How many WR will get 112 touches this season?
Well, he did only get six offensive touches yesterday. CP is amazing, so hopefully that number rises to closer to ten in future matchups.
I do expect the D to be much improved. Let's not forget that they played St. L who isn't exactly a world beater on offense and they had their backup QB. Not all the games will be that dominant for them on D. Especially not in that division.Something to note. Minn only attempted 25 passes yesterday. Mainly because they controlled the game start to finish. I doubt that is the case for most of the season. This is probably a low end of targets/receptions.LawFitz said:
This is what scared me since three were rushes. They were playing with the lead so that should change going forward. You'd like to see it around 10.
That game had everything to do with the St. Louis offense. They are by far the worst in the league. Pedestrian talent at all skill positions, crappy offensive line, terrible quarterbacking. This guy has stud written all over him.
Patterson is Minnesota's best weapon?
pretty sure that AP guy might be in the mix there.10!!!!!?!??
Patterson isn't exactly your standard type of WR obviously. Revis and/or Belichick's ability to neutralize more prototypical weapons isn't a reason to leave CP on your bench. I imagine they'll be focused on stopping AP anyway after Knowshon Moreno and Lamar Miller tore them apart.
Let us know who you get in return so we can mock you endlessly every time CP scores from 60+ out.
Extrapolate his last 8 games played to 16 and you get a combined 1170 yards and 14 td's. That's a lot of glitter.
I don't really get the return yardage argument. My league is 1 poitn per 25 yards. That's like 2-3 PPG. It's not that much of a boost in PPR considering he's not likely to be a target monster like either AJ, Calvin, Julio, etc.I think he can handle between 8-12 offensive touches per game, including 2-4 rushes. Unlikely to be his average, but that's his upside and it entails low-mid WR1 stats.
Add return yards and you're looking at a potential monster, considering he's the best and most active kick returner in the league.
Agreed. This is only his second year though and he's going to get better hopefully. He's an elite playmaker so he only needs to be an average WR to become a low end WR1. Some of his success will be tied to Bridgewater. If you believe Bridgewater will be better than average or even top 10 QB in the future (I do) then Patterson's future is about as bright as any WR2 in the league right now.
You don't see where a WR2 that scores 13 ppg can get a big boost from 3 additional points in the return game? 16ppg*16= 256 or WR14 13ppg*16= 208 or WR22 . It's a pretty big deal.I don't really get the return yardage argument. My league is 1 poitn per 25 yards. That's like 2-3 PPG. It's not that much of a boost in PPR considering he's not likely to be a target monster like either AJ, Calvin, Julio, etc.I think he can handle between 8-12 offensive touches per game, including 2-4 rushes. Unlikely to be his average, but that's his upside and it entails low-mid WR1 stats.
Add return yards and you're looking at a potential monster, considering he's the best and most active kick returner in the league.
I'm probably the biggest Patterson supporter around and I agree with this. I think he sees decent targets but nothing like the elite WRs in the league. The bonus of course is what Patterson offers in the rushing department. No other WR in football offers his skill set and multi-threat potential other than Harvin. These guys don't NEED to amass as many receiving targets to be very impactful fantasy players... See last week. Of course he isn't going to break a long TD run every week, but the added potential does add some stability to his fantasy results in light of not getting the same passing opportunities of other top WRs.
Looking at PFF's coverage marks, it appears he did "shadow" Mike Wallace last week on Wallace's way to 7 rec 81 yds and a TD. It was only person that it shows him covering a pass against and while Revis was covering him, Wallace was targeted 5 times and caught 2 balls for 36 yds and the TD.
umm..isn't that good?
yeah I had to update my post a bit.
Fine, lets forget the word shadow.
