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Yea I seen that According to sports science he is the fastest receiver ever tested off the line and at the light blink he is off the line in a flash... whoever said that he couldn't get off line quick must be watching wrong guy..... geez. o peats... he is only the fastest off line but he can't get off line, makes lots of sense.
Wasn't arguing he can't, or can't learn. Just arguing that the Sports Science test off the line means nothing.
Both points are largely irrelevant as almost no college CBs jam at the LOS anyway. So while Patterson may not have faced it often, none of the other did either. From what I can tell, SEC teams actually do it far more frequently than any other conference. So I'd image Patterson had a decent share of press to beat in comparison to other rookie WRs. I know Austin almost never saw it and he is the guy most compared to Patterson.
I think Tavon's size "issues" are overblown. See the last post (mine) in the Tavon Austin Upside thread.
Sports Science should not be discussed when evaluating players. It has a 'wow, that's cool' factor but it's rather meaningless.
Sure it does, his reaction time was TWICE AS FAST as every other prospect they tested from this draft. That reaction still attests to his amazing reflexes, you don't think his amazing ability to make people miss has nothing to do with the fact he has faster reflexes than the people he is making miss?
His amazing reflexes are absolutely relevant. Not so much when it comes to breaking free at the LOS as other aspects of the game IMO, but still highly relevant. Saying the test means nothing is kind of silly. If that test means nothing then so do every typeset at the combine. Many of them are also testing similar attributes in a different way.
This is one of the most uneducated post I've seen in a while. Did nothing in the SEC? You mean outside setting an all time record for all purpose yes in his only season?
I clearly meant as a WR
I have seen some of this from watching him as well. He is always shifting, juking, changing direction. I suppose this makes it difficult to cover him as he is throwing so many fakes it may confuse the defender and provide opportunities for Patterson to get an angle on the player. To me it looks like a lot of wasted motion that might slow him down compared to if he just ran the route the same way every time and improved the timing of his breaks. I think this is where Jennings will really help though. Jennings will teach him how to run routes effectively and help him learn when to use these moves and how to harness his play style for better efficiency.EBF said:
Vs winning SEC teams he dominated averaging 3 rec for 40 yards. He was tied for 3rd on his team in receiving TD's. Good luck hoping he breaks out in the NFL.
Pre-NFL (college performance, scouting reports), the name that has always stuck in my head as a comparison is Troy Williamson. Single season of explosive, but average production. Raw, but superbly talented athlete who is expected to take some time to adjust to the pro game.EBF said:
They share one similarities: played in the SEC
For reference: Justin Hunter averaged 4.5 rec for 60 yards 0 TD vs winning SEC teams.
He's had a few drops from what I've seen. James Jones-esque, ugly. But the Vikings didn't draft him for his hands.He can catch short passes with ease.
His hands are pretty small. I don't think that's helps him any.
I don't like Patterson as the X, day 1. In that role he's going to have to need more time to develop.
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Love everything about his game except for the small hands..... Tavon has bigger hands than CP . His after the catch is unreal and elite though.
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Wright will get time at the Z as well so I am uncertain about Patterson as a rookie. The easiest path to playing time will be at the X where he only has to beat out Simpson. Jennings and Wright are much more difficult for him to get past for playing time.
I love Patterson but its crazy to suggest he's faster and more explosive than Moss was. Early Moss has ridiculous video game speed and explosiveness. Patterson is elite IMO, but Moss was out of this world and perhaps the most explosive player ever in the NFL. None the less, I've been expecting Patterson to have a much larger role in the Minn offense than has been suggested this far. He's an electric playmaker and Minn will continue to realize this and thus continue to expand his role IMO.
Some may have Hopkins higher than Patterson is PPR leagues I suppose. Yes the return yards would increase Patterson's value.3optic said:
Very nice distribution for Hopkins, really shows he can do it all.
