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Shark Pool Mock Draft - #1 (1 Viewer)

No. We'd have to roll without those.Round 4 Pick Team1. Jaguars2. Chiefs3. Raiders4. Eagles5. Vikings (from Lions)6. Cardinals7. Browns8. Bills9. Jets10. Titans11. Panthers12. Saints13. Chargers14. Dolphins15. Ravens (from Buccaneers)16. Rams17. Cowboys18. Steelers19. Giants20. Bears21. Bengals22. Redskins23. Vikings24. Colts25. Packers26. Seahawks27. Vikings (from Texans)28. Broncos29. Buccaneers (from Patriots)30. Falcons31. 49ers32. Ravens

 
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'rascal said:
90. Denver - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State

Should be able to come in and immediately compete for a starting position at either FS or SS. Mike Adams is nothing special, and Rahim Moore may not be welcomed back in Denver....ever.

There were no elite DTs available, and there are still plenty of good beef guys for later rounds.

BTW, this was a steal.
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I came super close to taking him. In fact, were I drafting for the Steelers in reality, I likely would have. Since it was a mock and I wanted to have some fun and possibly engender some conversation, I went with Goodwin instead.
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You guys are systematically taking every player off my list.Definitely was the top name left on my list by a wide margin.

Andy here are all of the trades that were made:

***Houston gives: 2(57), 3(89), 6(185)

***Carolina Gives: 2(44), 4(105) and a 2014 7th

^Miami gives 1(42)

^San Francisco gives 2(61), 3(74)

^^The Bucs traded picks 73 and 109 to the Ravens for pick 62. and 4th Rd Selection (#109

Double check the trades with the fourth round order and make any changes needed.

 
Getting caught up.

The draft up to the end of the third round:

Round 3 (AKA the JackReacher Miami round)

63. Kansas City - Andy D - Stedman Bailey, WR - WVU

Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama

64. Jacksonville - jshare87 - Oday Aboushi, OT - Virginia

Matt Elam, SS - Florida. Barkevious Mingo, DE - LSU

65. Detroit - Temramrod - Leon McFadden, CB - San Diego State

Giovani Bernard, RB - North Carolina - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M

66. Oakland - krsone21 - Kyle Long OT - Oregon

Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida

67. Philadelphia - Slider - Brandon Williams, DT - Missouri Southern State

Larry Warford, OG - Kentucky - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan

68. Cleveland - Bracie Smathers - Margus Hunt, DE - SMU

Jarvis Jones, LB - Georgia

69. Arizona - ebaughn - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB - Connecticut

Menelik Watson, OT - Florida State - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia

70. Tennessee - FUBAR - Reid Fragel, OT - tOSU

Kawann Short, DT - Purdue - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama

71. Buffalo - Donsmith753 - Brandon Jenkins, OLB/DE - Florida State

Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR - Tennessee

72. NY Jets - Hell Toupee - Vance McDonald TE - Rice

Jonathan Cyprien, S - FIU - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon

73. Tampa Bay trades pick to Baltimore - The Hank - DJ Swearinger - S - South Carolina

Alec Ogletree, LB - Georgia

74. Miami (from San Francisco from Carolina) - JackReacher - Gavin Escobar, TE - n Diego St.

Bjoern Werner - OLB - Florida St - Robert Woods, WR - USC - Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana -

75. New Orleans - HEARTFF - Justin Pugh, OT - Syracuse

Ezekiel Ansah – DE/OLB - BYU -

76. San Diego - Ray Finkle - Sean Porter, OLB - Texas A&M

Dallas Thomas, OG - Tennessee - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma

77. Miami - JackReacher - Terron Armstead, OT - Arkansas Pine Bluff

Bjoern Werner - OLB - Florida St - Robert Woods, WR - USC - Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana -

78. St. Louis - tdmills - Tyrann Mathieu AKA honey badger, CB - LSU

Barrett Jones, OL - Alabama - Kenny Vaccaro, S - Texas - Keenan Allen WR Cal

79. Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 - Marquise Goodwin, WR - Texas

Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama - Damontre Moore, OLB - Texas A&M

80. Dallas - FunkyTeaParty - Zaviar Gooden LB - Missouri.

Alex Okafor, DE - Texas - Jonathan Cooper, OG - North Carolina

81. NY Giants - amicsta - Jamie Collins, lb, - southern miss

Kevin Minter, MLB - LSU - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou

82. Miami (from Chicago) - JackReacher - Da'Rick Rogers WR - Tennessee Tech

Bjoern Werner - OLB - Florida St - Robert Woods, WR - USC - Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana -

83. Minnesota - FunkyPlutos - Sio Moore, OLB - Connecticut

DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson - Manti Te'o, LB - Notre Dame

84. Cincinnati - yellow dog - J.J. Wilcox, S - Georgia Southern

Eddie Lacy, Running Back - Alabama - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU

85. Washington - IHEARTFF- Darius Slay, CB - Mississippi St

Terrance Williams, WR - Baylor -

86. Indianapolis - Bamac - David Amerson, DB - NC State

Jonathan Hankins, DT - OSU

87. Seattle - biju - John Simon DE - DE Ohio State

Sylvester Williams, DT - North Carolina - Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee -

88. Green Bay - meyerj31 Johnathan Franklin, RB - UCLA

D.J. Fluker, OT - OT Alabama - Zach Ertz, TE Stanford -

89. Carolina (from Houston) - jurb26 - Shawn Williams, S - Georgia

Star Lotulelei – DT - Utah - Quinton Patton, WR Louisiana Tech -

90. Denver - rascal - Phillip Thomas, S - Fresno State

Desmond Trufant, CB - Washington - Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State -

91. New England - Tackling Dummies - Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB - Auburn

Eric Reid, S - LSU - Aaron Dobson, WR, - Marshall -

92. Atlanta - Andy D - Travis Kelce, TE - Cincinnati

Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, DE - FSU - Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise State -

93. San Francisco - Spin - Baccari Rambo S - Georgia.

Datone Jones, DE - UCLA -

94. Baltimore - The Hank - Luke Marquardt , OT - Azusa Pacific

Alec Ogletree, LB - Georgia

*Chicago trades down from 20 to 22 with St. Louis and acquires St. Louis’ 4th round draft pick

**Minnesota trades down from 23 to 27 with Houston and acquires Houston’s 4th round pick

***Houston gives: 2(57), 3(89), 6(185)

***Carolina Gives: 2(44), 4(105) and a 2014 7th

^Miami gives 1(42)

^San Francisco gives 2(61), 3(74)

^^The Bucs traded picks 73 and 109 to the Ravens for pick 62. and 4th Rd Selection (#109

List of all players selected by position:

DEFENSE

DE - Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA - Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, DE, FSU - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU -DE Margus Hunt, DE, SMU - John Simon, DE Ohio State -

DT/NT - Kawann Short , DT, Purdue - John Jenkins, NT, UGA - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama -Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida -Jonathan Hankins, DT/NT - Ohio State -Brandon Williams, DT - Missouri Southern State

MLB - Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State - Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame - Kevin Minter, MLB, LSU - Alec Ogle tree, LB - Georgia -

OLB - Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon - Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers - Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU - Damontre Moore, OLB, Texas A&M - Bjoern Werner, OLB, Florida St - Brandon Jenkins, OLB/DE - Florida State - Sean Porter, OLB - Texas A&M - Zaviar Gooden, OLB, Missouri - Jamie Collins, OLB, southern miss - Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut - ]b]Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn

CB - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama - Johnthan Banks, DB, Mississippi State - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington - Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise State -Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana - Leon McFadden, CB - San Diego State -Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB - Connecticut -Tyrann Mathieu, CB. LSU - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi St -

S - Matt Elam, SS Florida. - Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas - Eric Reid, S, LSU - DJ Swearinger, S - South Carolina - J.J. Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern - David Amerson, FS NC state - Shawn Williams , S, Georgia - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State - Baccari Rambo, S Georgia.

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OFFENSE

QB - Matt Barkley, QB, USC- Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse -

RB - Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama - Johnathan Franklin, RB UCLA -

WR - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee - Tavon Austin, WR, WVU - Keenan Allen WR Cal - Terrance Williams , WR, Baylor - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson - Robert Woods, WR, USC - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech.- Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State - Aaron Dobson, WR, - Marshall - Stedman Bailey, WR - WVU - Marquise Goodwin;, WR, Texas - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech

TE - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford.- Vance McDonald , TE Rice - Gavin Escobar, TE San Diego St. - Travis KelceTE - Cincinnati

OT - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma - D.J. Fluker, OT Alabama - Oday Aboushi, OT - Virginia - Kyle Long, OT, Oregon - Reid Fragel, OT - tOSU - Justin Pugh, OT - Syracuse - Terron Armstead, OT - Arkansas Pine Bluff - Luke MarquardtOT- Azusa Pacific -

OG - Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky - Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama - Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina - Dallas Thomas, OG, Tennessee -

C - Travis Frederick, OG/C Wisconsin

 
'Bracie Smathers said:
***Carolina Gives: 2(44), 4(105) and a 2014 7th
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I think this is the only 4th I'm missing then. Who did they give it to?Round 4 Pick Team 1. Jaguars 2. Chiefs 3. Raiders 4. Eagles 5. Vikings (from Lions) 6. Cardinals 7. Browns 8. Bills 9. Jets 10. Titans 11. Houston (from Panthers) 12. Saints 13. Chargers 14. Dolphins 15. Ravens (from Buccaneers) 16. Rams 17. Cowboys 18. Steelers 19. Giants 20. Bears 21. Bengals 22. Redskins 23. Vikings 24. Colts 25. Packers 26. Seahawks 27. Vikings (from Texans) 28. Broncos 29. Buccaneers (from Patriots) 30. Falcons 31. 49ers 32. Ravens
 
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'Andy Dufresne said:
'Bracie Smathers said:
***Carolina Gives: 2(44), 4(105) and a 2014 7th
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I think this is the only 4th I'm missing then. Who did they give it to?Round 4 Pick Team 1. Jaguars 2. Chiefs 3. Raiders 4. Eagles 5. Vikings (from Lions) 6. Cardinals 7. Browns 8. Bills 9. Jets 10. Titans 11. Houston (from Panthers) 12. Saints 13. Chargers 14. Dolphins 15. Ravens (from Buccaneers) 16. Rams 17. Cowboys 18. Steelers 19. Giants 20. Bears 21. Bengals 22. Redskins 23. Vikings 24. Colts 25. Packers 26. Seahawks 27. Vikings (from Texans) 28. Broncos 29. Buccaneers (from Patriots) 30. Falcons 31. 49ers 32. Ravens
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I traded St. Louis' 4th round pick away to move up in the first round.
 
4.1 - Jacksonville - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State4.2 - Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB - ArkansasI want to put Gerald Hodges, OLB from Penn State to the Jaguars but given the slightest chance that Glennon is better than Gabbert the Jags would have to take him.Also, I don't think it would matter to Andy Reid if he'd gotten Alex Smith or Matt Barkley with that 2nd rounder. If there was another QB of this talent sitting there in the 4th he'd pounce. Or whatever sudden move walruses do make.
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
4.1 - Jacksonville - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State

4.2 - Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB - Arkansas

I want to put Gerald Hodges, OLB from Penn State to the Jaguars but given the slightest chance that Glennon is better than Gabbert the Jags would have to take him.

Also, I don't think it would matter to Andy Reid if he'd gotten Alex Smith or Matt Barkley with that 2nd rounder. If there was another QB of this talent sitting there in the 4th he'd pounce. Or whatever sudden move walruses do make.
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Ahem.They traded for QB Alex Smith AFTER you took this guy for them at the top of the second round:

Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California -

Somehow I just don't see KC taking a second QB after making the deal with SF for Smith where they NOW don't even have the second round pick that was used to take QB Matt Barkley.

 
'Bracie Smathers said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
4.1 - Jacksonville - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State

4.2 - Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB - Arkansas

I want to put Gerald Hodges, OLB from Penn State to the Jaguars but given the slightest chance that Glennon is better than Gabbert the Jags would have to take him.

Also, I don't think it would matter to Andy Reid if he'd gotten Alex Smith or Matt Barkley with that 2nd rounder. If there was another QB of this talent sitting there in the 4th he'd pounce. Or whatever sudden move walruses do make.
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Ahem.They traded for QB Alex Smith AFTER you took this guy for them at the top of the second round:

Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California -

Somehow I just don't see KC taking a second QB after making the deal with SF for Smith where they NOW don't even have the second round pick that was used to take QB Matt Barkley.
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Why not? 1) It's great value. The Redskins took Kirk Cousins in the 4th after they took RGIII in the 1st. Wilson was in the discussion for top QB in this class at one point, grabbing him in the 4th is awesome.

2) Alex Smith isn't an elite QB, he's the guy for right now. Wilson gives AR a very young QB with all the tools to develop whenever he needs him. This year if Smith falters or in the coming seasons.

 
'Bracie Smathers said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
4.1 - Jacksonville - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State

4.2 - Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB - Arkansas

I want to put Gerald Hodges, OLB from Penn State to the Jaguars but given the slightest chance that Glennon is better than Gabbert the Jags would have to take him.

Also, I don't think it would matter to Andy Reid if he'd gotten Alex Smith or Matt Barkley with that 2nd rounder. If there was another QB of this talent sitting there in the 4th he'd pounce. Or whatever sudden move walruses do make.
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Ahem.They traded for QB Alex Smith AFTER you took this guy for them at the top of the second round:

Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California -

Somehow I just don't see KC taking a second QB after making the deal with SF for Smith where they NOW don't even have the second round pick that was used to take QB Matt Barkley.
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You mean like Washington wouldn't take another QB in the 4th because they traded away three firsts to get Griffin?What I said was that Barkley or Smith...it doesn't matter. So they used a 2nd on a QB. Who cares?

Andy Reid picks up QBs like he picks up chicken wings. Having a guy this talented available to him in the 4th would be irresistable to him.

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Bracie Smathers said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
4.1 - Jacksonville - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State

4.2 - Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB - Arkansas

I want to put Gerald Hodges, OLB from Penn State to the Jaguars but given the slightest chance that Glennon is better than Gabbert the Jags would have to take him.

Also, I don't think it would matter to Andy Reid if he'd gotten Alex Smith or Matt Barkley with that 2nd rounder. If there was another QB of this talent sitting there in the 4th he'd pounce. Or whatever sudden move walruses do make.
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Ahem.They traded for QB Alex Smith AFTER you took this guy for them at the top of the second round:

Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California -

Somehow I just don't see KC taking a second QB after making the deal with SF for Smith where they NOW don't even have the second round pick that was used to take QB Matt Barkley.
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You mean like Washington wouldn't take another QB in the 4th because they traded away three firsts to get Griffin?What I said was that Barkley or Smith...it doesn't matter. So they used a 2nd on a QB. Who cares?

Andy Reid picks up QBs like he picks up chicken wings. Having a guy this talented available to him in the 4th would be irresistable to him.
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If you want to take him based off of value then fine and if you have Alex Smith INSTED of Barkley then I get it but I was counting like so:1. Matt Barkley

2. Trade for Alex Smith that we didn't know about at the time so no-one could count the Barkley pick against you

3. Tyler Bray

We have to assume some things but trades taking place in mid-mock are open to interpretation so my view of KC having three new QBs didn't make sense but you have it at only two then I'm fine with a value pick. :banned:

 
I dunno but kind of look at it like we're operating in a vacuum & the Smith deal is irrelevant . Either way but especially if Smith is considered KC I can't see them taking a QB here

 
Eh, I still like the pick but if it's not him then they'd potentially look at one of the ILBs like Kiko Alonso from Oregon, Nico Johnson from Alabama, or Jon Bostic from Florida.

 
Witth the 3rd pick in the 4th round Raiders select:

4.97 - Oakland - Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State

The Raiders need help all over the defense. The Raiders are at the bottom of the league at defense. They did show signs of life at the end of last season, but the defense lacks talent. The Raiders went throught a lot of CB's in 2012 due to injuries and looking for anyone that could play CB. At one point they moved their staring FS Huff over to CB.

I considered drafting a CB, DE, MLB, OG, or QB at this spot. Lots of holes to fill for the Raiders.

Here is what Draft Scout had to say about Jordan Poyers Strengths and Weaknesess:

Strengths: Balanced athlete with good closing burst. Tough and competes with very good eye discipline. Sets the edge and works hard to shed, playing stronger than he looks. Gets physical and matches up well with bigger receivers. Nice job reading the eyes of the quarterback and puts himself in position to make a play on the ball.

Willing run defender and throws his body around, taking accurate angles. Quick learner as a former safety, moving to cornerback in 2010 and starting the past two seasons. Good experience in zone coverage, often moving inside to cover the slot receiver. Leader of the secondary and a fiery player. Extensive special teams experience on kickoff and punt returns. Former Oregon State baseball player.

Weaknesses: Leaner frame with limited bulk, probably will never be able to gain 190+ pounds. Not a quick-twitch athlete and lacks natural explosion. Plays too far off the line of scrimmage to protect against speed, allowing too much of a cushion and conceding underneath throws.

Tends to bite on fakes and gets overaggressive at times. Streaky tackler and often lowers his head and whiffs in the open field. Can get caught with his eyes in the backfield too much and struggles to recover after false steps. Reliable return man, but not a dynamic performer in this area. Some minor character concerns after an arrest last May for a bar fight.

So far in this Mock Draft Raiders have selected:

1. Shariff Floyd DT Florida

2. Kyle Long OT Oregon

3. Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State

 
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'Andy Dufresne said:
Eh, I still like the pick but if it's not him then they'd potentially look at one of the ILBs like Kiko Alonso from Oregon, Nico Johnson from Alabama, or Jon Bostic from Florida.
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OK.Um I think we lost Slider as the selector for Philly.

Round 4 (AKA the last round)?

Round 4

Pick Team

1. Jacksonville - jshare87 - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State

Matt Elam, SS - Florida. Barkevious Mingo, DE - LSU - Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

2. Kansas City - Andy D - Tyler Wilson, QB - Arkansas Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama, Stedman Bailey, WR, WVU -

3. Oakland - krsone21 - Jordan Poyer CB - Oregon State -

Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida - Kyle Long OT, Oregon

4. Philadelphia - Slider ????-

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Larry Warford, OG - Kentucky - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State -

5. (from Lions) Minnesota - FunkyPlutos -

-

DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson - Manti Te'o, LB - Notre Dame - Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut -

6. Arizona - ebaughn -

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Menelik Watson, OT - Florida State - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut -

7. Cleveland - Bracie Smathers -

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Jarvis Jones, LB - Georgia - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU

8. Buffalo - Donsmith753 -

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Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR - Tennessee - Brandon Jenkins, OLB/DE, Florida State -

9. NY Jets - Hell Toupee -

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Jonathan Cyprien, S - FIU - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon - Vance McDonald TE. Rice -

10. Tennessee - FUBAR -

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Kawann Short, DT - Purdue - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama - Reid Fragel, OT, OSU

11. (from Panthers) Houston - meecrob -

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Tavon Austin, WR - WVU - Houston- John Jenkins - NT - UGA -

12. New Orleans - HEARTFF -

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Ezekiel Ansah – DE/OLB - BYU - Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse -

13. San Diego - Ray Finkle -

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Dallas Thomas, OG - Tennessee - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma - Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M -

14. Miami (from Chicago) - JackReacher -

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Bjoern Werner - OLB - Florida St - Robert Woods, WR - USC - Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana - Da'Rick Rogers WR - Tennessee Tech -

15. (from Buccaneers) Baltimore - The Hank -

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Alec Ogletree, LB - Georgia - Luke Marquardt , OT, Azusa Pacific -

16. St. Louis - tdmills -

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Barrett Jones, OL - Alabama - Kenny Vaccaro, S - Texas - Keenan Allen WR Cal - Tyrann Mathieu AKA honey badger, CB, LSU -

17. Dallas - FunkyTeaParty -

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Alex Okafor, DE - Texas - Jonathan Cooper, OG - North Carolina - Zaviar Gooden LB, Missouri. -

18. Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 -

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Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama - Damontre Moore, OLB - Texas A&M - Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas

19. NY Giants - amicsta -

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Kevin Minter, MLB - LSU - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou - Jamie Collins, lb, southern miss

 
'Bracie Smathers said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
Eh, I still like the pick but if it's not him then they'd potentially look at one of the ILBs like Kiko Alonso from Oregon, Nico Johnson from Alabama, or Jon Bostic from Florida.
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OK.Um I think we lost Slider as the selector for Philly.
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:lol: I think you're probably right. What do we think for Philly, guys?EJ Manuel QB - FSUBrian Schwenke C - CaliforniaAkeem Spence DT - Illinois
 
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'Andy Dufresne said:
'Bracie Smathers said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
Eh, I still like the pick but if it's not him then they'd potentially look at one of the ILBs like Kiko Alonso from Oregon, Nico Johnson from Alabama, or Jon Bostic from Florida.
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OK.Um I think we lost Slider as the selector for Philly.
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:lol: I think you're probably right. What do we think for Philly, guys?

EJ Manuel QB - FSU

Brian Schwenke C - California

Akeem Spence DT - Illinois
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Maybe we should see if snotbubbles wants to take over the Eagles. He posted earlier today his thought on the Eagles. He thought the Eagles should go defense in the draft mostly. That being said I don't think E.J. Manuel would be a bad pick here. How long does Vick have? Not much in my opinion.

 
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EJ ManuelIf Kelly is signing UFL QB's, he would be dancing in the War Room if Manuel fell to him in the 4th

 
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Minnesota Vikings select:Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi StateWinfield will probably be playing his last season and with Cook and Josh Robinson as youth at the corners, this would give them another corner to match up with all the WRs in the NFC North.

 
I will vote for BW Webb if he isn't gone. He might only be 5' 10" but posted a 40.5" vertical to go along with his 4.5 speed.

 
'Donnybrook said:
I will vote for BW Webb if he isn't gone. He might only be 5' 10" but posted a 40.5" vertical to go along with his 4.5 speed.
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I like that and since FunkyP was going that way anyway. B.W. Webb, CB - William & Mary And for Arizona, since ebaughn never came back to fix that last pick...Kiko Alonso ILB Oregon
 
With the 7th pick in the fourth round the Cleveland Browns take:

Michael Buchanan, Illinois

6'5" Height

255LBS. Weight

Solid 2011 but down last year. Needs to add muscle/bulk. Displayed pass rush and violent hands.

Oh and Mayock has him listed as his fourth best 3-4 OLB so he likes him.

By far best value on my board at this point.

My link

3-4 Outside Linebacker

1. Dion Jordan, Oregon

2. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss

3. Barkevious Mingo, LSU

4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois

I'll update the picks in a sec.

 
Round 4 (AKA the last round)?

Round 4

Pick Team

1. Jacksonville - jshare87 - Mike Glennon, QB - North Carolina State

Matt Elam, SS - Florida. Barkevious Mingo, DE - LSU - Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

2. Kansas City - Andy D - Tyler Wilson, QB - Arkansas Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama, Stedman Bailey, WR, WVU -

3. Oakland - krsone21 - Jordan Poyer CB - Oregon State -

Sharrif Floyd, DT - Florida - Kyle Long OT, Oregon

4. Philadelphia - Slider ????- E.J. Manuel, QB - FSU

Larry Warford, OG - Kentucky - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State -

5. (from Lions) Minnesota - FunkyPlutos - B.W. Webb, CB - William & Mary

DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson - Manti Te'o, LB - Notre Dame - Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut -

6. Arizona - ebaughn - Kiko Alonso ILB - Oregon

Menelik Watson, OT - Florida State - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut -

7. Cleveland - Bracie Smathers - Michael Buchanan, OLB/DE -Illinois

Jarvis Jones, LB - Georgia - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU

8. Buffalo - Donsmith753 -

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Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR - Tennessee - Brandon Jenkins, OLB/DE, Florida State -

9. NY Jets - Hell Toupee -

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Jonathan Cyprien, S - FIU - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - Oregon - Vance McDonald TE. Rice -

10. Tennessee - FUBAR -

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Kawann Short, DT - Purdue - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama - Reid Fragel, OT, OSU

11. (from Panthers) Houston - meecrob -

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Tavon Austin, WR - WVU - Houston- John Jenkins - NT - UGA -

12. New Orleans - HEARTFF -

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Ezekiel Ansah – DE/OLB - BYU - Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse -

13. San Diego - Ray Finkle -

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Dallas Thomas, OG - Tennessee - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma - Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M -

14. Miami (from Chicago) - JackReacher -

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Bjoern Werner - OLB - Florida St - Robert Woods, WR - USC - Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana - Da'Rick Rogers WR - Tennessee Tech -

15. (from Buccaneers) Baltimore - The Hank -

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Alec Ogletree, LB - Georgia - Luke Marquardt , OT, Azusa Pacific -

16. St. Louis - tdmills -

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Barrett Jones, OL - Alabama - Kenny Vaccaro, S - Texas - Keenan Allen WR Cal - Tyrann Mathieu AKA honey badger, CB, LSU -

17. Dallas - FunkyTeaParty -

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Alex Okafor, DE - Texas - Jonathan Cooper, OG - North Carolina - Zaviar Gooden LB, Missouri. -

18. Pittsburgh - Evilgrin 72 -

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Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama - Damontre Moore, OLB - Texas A&M - Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas

19. NY Giants - amicsta -

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Kevin Minter, MLB - LSU - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou - Jamie Collins, lb, southern miss

20. Chicago- RBM-

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Travis Frederick, OG/C Wisconsin - Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State

21. . Cincinnati - yellow dog -

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Eddie Lacy, Running Back - Alabama - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU - J.J. Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern -

22. Washington - IHEARTFF-

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Terrance Williams, WR - Baylor - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi St -

23. . Minnesota- FunkyPlutos -

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DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson - Manti Te'o, LB - Notre Dame -

24. Indianapolis - Bamac -

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Jonathan Hankins, DT - OSU - David Amerson, DB, NC State -

25. Green Bay - meyerj31

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D.J. Fluker, OT - OT Alabama - Zach Ertz, TE Stanford - Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA -

26. Seattle - biju -

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Sylvester Williams, DT - North Carolina - Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee - John Simon DE, Ohio State -

27. (from Texans) Minnesota- FunkyPlutos -

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DeAndre Hopkins, WR - Clemson - Manti Te'o, LB - Notre Dame -

28. Denver - rascal -

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Desmond Trufant, CB - Washington - Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State -

29. (from Patriots) Tampa Bay trades pick to Baltimore - The Hank -

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Alec Ogletree, LB - Georgia - DJ Swearinger - S, South Carolina -

30. Atlanta - Andy D -

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Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, DE - FSU - Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise State - Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati -

31. San Francisco - Spin -

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Datone Jones, DE - UCLA - Baccari Rambo S, Georgia.-

32. Baltimore - The Hank -

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Alec Ogletree, LB - Georgia - Luke Marquardt , OT, Azusa Pacific -

List of all players selected by position:

DEFENSE

DE - Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA - Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, DE, FSU - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU -DE Margus Hunt, DE, SMU - John Simon, DE Ohio State -

DT/NT - Kawann Short , DT, Purdue - John Jenkins, NT, UGA - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama -Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida -Jonathan Hankins, DT/NT - Ohio State -Brandon Williams, DT - Missouri Southern State

MLB - Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State - Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame - Kevin Minter, MLB, LSU - Alec Ogle tree, LB - Georgia - Kiko Alonso , ILB Oregon -

OLB - Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon - Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers - Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU - Damontre Moore, OLB, Texas A&M - Bjoern Werner, OLB, Florida St - Brandon Jenkins, OLB/DE - Florida State - Sean Porter, OLB - Texas A&M - Zaviar Gooden, OLB, Missouri - Jamie Collins, OLB, southern miss - Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut - ]b]Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn - Michael Buchanan, OLB, Illinois -

CB - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama - Johnthan Banks, DB, Mississippi State - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington - Jamar Taylor, CB - Boise State -Robert Alford, CB - Southeastern Louisiana - Leon McFadden, CB - San Diego State -Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB - Connecticut -Tyrann Mathieu, CB. LSU - Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi St - Jordan Poyer CB , Oregon State - B.W. Webb, William & Mary -

S - Matt Elam, SS Florida. - Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas - Eric Reid, S, LSU - DJ Swearinger, S - South Carolina - J.J. Wilcox, S, Georgia Southern - David Amerson, FS NC state - Shawn Williams , S, Georgia - Phillip Thomas, S, Fresno State - Baccari Rambo, S Georgia.

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OFFENSE

QB - Matt Barkley, QB, USC- Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse - Mike Glennon,

North Carolina State - Tyler Wilson, Arkansas - E.J. Manuel, FSU -

RB - Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama - Johnathan Franklin, RB UCLA -

WR - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee - Tavon Austin, WR, WVU - Keenan Allen WR Cal - Terrance Williams , WR, Baylor - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson - Robert Woods, WR, USC - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech.- Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State - Aaron Dobson, WR, - Marshall - Stedman Bailey, WR - WVU - Marquise Goodwin;, WR, Texas - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech

TE - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford.- Vance McDonald , TE Rice - Gavin Escobar, TE San Diego St. - Travis KelceTE - Cincinnati

OT - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma - D.J. Fluker, OT Alabama - Oday Aboushi, OT - Virginia - Kyle Long, OT, Oregon - Reid Fragel, OT - tOSU - Justin Pugh, OT - Syracuse - Terron Armstead, OT - Arkansas Pine Bluff - Luke MarquardtOT- Azusa Pacific -

OG - Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama - Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky - Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama - Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina - Dallas Thomas, OG, Tennessee -

C - Travis Frederick, OG/C Wisconsin

 
'IHEARTFF said:
EJ Manuel is possibly the best QB in the draft. #######g highway robbery in round 4.
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E.J. Manuel is one of my favorites as well. I like him more then other QB's drafted before him. I almost selected him for the Raiders. :thumbup:
 
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'Slider said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Slider said:
Lol at EJ Manuel. Glad I could nail the first two for my beloved team. :bye: :banned:
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Yeah. I don't know how we'd have been able to slot Eric Fisher to them without you.
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Most wouldn't have taken him or backed it up with Warford. Now that someone blew a pick on Manuel we'll need all the O-Line we can get. Don't take it personal it's just a mock. :thumbup:
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Hey Slider,I'm not taking a shot at you but I am curious as to who you wanted with the 3rd round pick. I think the Eagles have a dire need for an nose tackle but I'm not familiar with the DT that was taken or if they can play over the center.So just curious as to who you would have taken if you made the pick?
 
'Slider said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Slider said:
Lol at EJ Manuel. Glad I could nail the first two for my beloved team. :bye: :banned:
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Yeah. I don't know how we'd have been able to slot Eric Fisher to them without you.
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Most wouldn't have taken him or backed it up with Warford. Now that someone blew a pick on Manuel we'll need all the O-Line we can get. Don't take it personal it's just a mock. :thumbup:
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Nonsense.And if you read on you'll see that you're definitely in the minority regarding Manuel. As it so happens, I kind of agree with you as every time I watched him he seemed really mediocre. But his stock is on the rise.

 
No problem Bracie and thanks for all the time consuming work you've done in here. Very nice work.Swearinger, Honey Badger, Jenkins or Philip Thomas would all be better fits. We signed Dixon and fat guys are always available later. I also like Bray better than Manuel. Not a great big problem with the pick but our DB's are pathetic.

 
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Slider said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Slider said:
Lol at EJ Manuel. Glad I could nail the first two for my beloved team. :bye: :banned:
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Yeah. I don't know how we'd have been able to slot Eric Fisher to them without you.
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Most wouldn't have taken him or backed it up with Warford. Now that someone blew a pick on Manuel we'll need all the O-Line we can get. Don't take it personal it's just a mock. :thumbup:
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Nonsense.
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You think Fisher over Joeckel was a common thing?
 
'Slider said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Slider said:
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Slider said:
Lol at EJ Manuel. Glad I could nail the first two for my beloved team. :bye: :banned:
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Yeah. I don't know how we'd have been able to slot Eric Fisher to them without you.
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Most wouldn't have taken him or backed it up with Warford. Now that someone blew a pick on Manuel we'll need all the O-Line we can get. Don't take it personal it's just a mock. :thumbup:
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Nonsense.
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You think Fisher over Joeckel was a common thing?
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I don't mind Fisher over Joeckel, but I think you screwed up following that with OL in the second. This team is in serious need of an infusion of talent on the defense, especially the secondary. 3 of your first 4 picks were offense and 2 of them are probably backups AT LEAST for next season, maybe more.
 
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