fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, fruity pebbles said: Sounds like the Jets are bidding against themselves and he doesn’t really want to play there. I think so too. I also think his twitter yesterday was bull**** The reality of punting $15mm to guarantee $20-25mm prob setting in. I honestly think his agent will have them negotiate some stupid language in that nobody can understand to try and save face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSteeler 2,407 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Birdie048 said: So Green is the only clue? NYJets are the obvious candidate but are they alone? Green Bay out of consideration? They were included in the rumors... Tom Silverstein on Twitter Not sure if the #Packers did more than inquire about RB Le'Veon Bell, but they are not in the running and are not signing him. They would need to mortgage their future with the amount of money they've already spent in free agency. Just thought I'd say that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beef 679 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, JoeSteeler said: +1 +2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,409 Posted March 12 Gotta be the Bears Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
menobrown 2,700 Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, fantasycurse42 said: I honestly think his agent will have them negotiate some stupid language in that nobody can understand to try and save face. My thoughts exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1,626 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, fantasycurse42 said: I think so too. I also think his twitter yesterday was bull**** The reality of punting $15mm to guarantee $20-25mm prob setting in. I honestly think his agent will have them negotiate some stupid language in that nobody can understand to try and save face. If he gets 25 million and blows his knee out this season he made a good decision. He said himself he knew he was losing money on this situation. He felt disrespected and didn't want to play for the Steelers last year. That's his right. The Steelers missed the playoffs by what? One game? With one of the best RB in the league sitting out. Now they lost one of the best WR ever this year. Looks like another wasted year for Big Ben. Cheers Steeler fans. You sound bitter. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Milkman said: If he gets 25 million and blows his knee out this season he made a good decision. He said himself he knew he was losing money on this situation. He felt disrespected and didn't want to play for the Steelers last year. That's his right. The Steelers missed the playoffs by what? One game? With one of the best RB in the league sitting out. Now they lost one of the best WR ever this year. Looks like another wasted year for Big Ben. Cheers Steeler fans. You sound bitter. I'm a Steelers fan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSteeler 2,407 Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, Milkman said: If he gets 25 million and blows his knee out this season he made a good decision. He said himself he knew he was losing money on this situation. He felt disrespected and didn't want to play for the Steelers last year. That's his right. The Steelers missed the playoffs by what? One game? With one of the best RB in the league sitting out. Now they lost one of the best WR ever this year. Looks like another wasted year for Big Ben. Cheers Steeler fans. You sound bitter. he isn't a Steelers fan LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 And these knee injury hypotheticals are so dumb. Let's point this out... At the age of 31, Adrian Peterson had season ending knee surgery - the next year, at the age of 32, he signed for 2/$7mm. His decision was idiotic at best, and absolutely and utterly reckless to his financial well-being at worst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,409 Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, Milkman said: If he gets 25 million and blows his knee out this season he made a good decision. He said himself he knew he was losing money on this situation. He felt disrespected and didn't want to play for the Steelers last year. That's his right. The Steelers missed the playoffs by what? One game? With one of the best RB in the league sitting out. Now they lost one of the best WR ever this year. Looks like another wasted year for Big Ben. Cheers Steeler fans. You sound bitter. This whole mess falls just as much on Tomlin and the Steelers organization as it does AB and Bell. Rarely see players speaking out on teammates who are holding out, much less multiple players criticizing their teammates. Something is up in Pittsburgh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeeshan2 250 Posted March 12 [Rapoport] While the #Jets made a best and final offer to Le’Veon Bell, the #Ravens are still in it, as well, I’m told. And Bell has indicated to some friends around the league how much he likes Baltimore. It seems like Ravens vs. Jets for Bell at the end. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1105523333146308610 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghostguy123 3,019 Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, flapgreen said: This whole mess falls just as much on Tomlin and the Steelers organization as it does AB and Bell. Rarely see players speaking out on teammates who are holding out, much less multiple players criticizing their teammates. Something is up in Pittsburgh Guessing what was up was the tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb show of Bell and Brown. Mostly that anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moonshine 427 Posted March 12 Nothing real, but Le'Veon Bell recently followed Derek Carr on twitter, and Matt Verderame posted: Quote Indications are that Le'Veon Bell is closing in on a deal with the #Raiders, per source. However, deal is not finalized yet. https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1105522785420484608 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flapgreen 5,409 Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said: Guessing what was up was the tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb show of Bell and Brown. Mostly that anyway Why would their two best players be the only problem and not the coach or organization itself? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSteeler 2,407 Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, Moonshine said: Nothing real, but Le'Veon Bell recently followed Derek Carr on twitter, and Matt Verderame posted: https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1105522785420484608 sounds like down to Raiders, Jets, Ravens Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghostguy123 3,019 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, flapgreen said: Why would their two best players be the only problem and not the coach or organization itself? I said MOSTLY. Bell made a stupid decision to sit out and Brown has been acting like an actual clown for a while Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhythmdoctor 1,274 Posted March 12 A buddy of mine listening to Chicago sports radio and apparently the Bears moved $11MM from Khalil Mack contract. They’re speculating it’s for Bell. Seems like a lot of possibilities right now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barackdhouse 902 Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, flapgreen said: This whole mess falls just as much on Tomlin and the Steelers organization as it does AB and Bell. Rarely see players speaking out on teammates who are holding out, much less multiple players criticizing their teammates. Something is up in Pittsburgh I've stayed out of these threads for the most part, and there has been plenty of back and forth on who is to blame, should there be blame, what is blame, what does it mean for the sport, yadayada. But ~two years ago I read about Big Ben's private hidden locker within his regular locker at home games. He convinced ownership to install a false door, secret compartment in the locker room where Ben could go to get away from everyone. I am not here to defend anyone, or to blame anyone, truth is I don't have the first ####### clue about any of these people and what kind of people they are in private. But Ben gets his own safe space in the locker room, and that screams dysfunction to me. Even if it is fair, even if he has earned it. Something is burning there. Or was. Maybe it is on all sides. IDK, don't necessarily care, but the secret locker is one of the craziest things I've ever heard of in sports. Some would defend it, some would hate it, but I wonder if a divided locker room is inevitable if a hidden and (not) secret locker is installed for the QB. My ten cents. Now will somebody please tell Bell to sign somewhere? The suspense is killing me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawFitz 957 Posted March 12 Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Just now, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. Oh Dear God please no. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,172 Posted March 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. Oh, brother. If this was true he would have signed already. Edited March 12 by Dr. Octopus 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. How much do you think they paid this guy to post this to his 20k followers? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeeshan2 250 Posted March 12 [PFT] At a time when the pursuit of @LeVeonBell is being framed as Jets vs. Ravens, it looks like it's actually Jets vs. Jets https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1105531209264844800 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 If someone fully guarantees Lev Bell $60mm, I'll eat my computer. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Worst days in Jets history Belichick leaving before he even coached If they sign Bell to a contract like that one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 2,432 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. If true, he gambled and won. Good for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Just now, fantasycurse42 said: If someone fully guarantees Lev Bell $60mm, I'll eat my computer. The Jets are hopefully smart enough not to do this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1,626 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, flapgreen said: This whole mess falls just as much on Tomlin and the Steelers organization as it does AB and Bell. Rarely see players speaking out on teammates who are holding out, much less multiple players criticizing their teammates. Something is up in Pittsburgh Oh and Steeler fans still don't get it. QB's like Big Ben are rare. Wasting the prime years is a big deal. The Steelers had the best WR/RB duo in the NFL and an elite QB together for 4-5 years and didn't win a SB. Big fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. This guy (Verderame) also had him going to the Raiders per sources forty minutes ago. So let's pump the brakes here... Edited March 12 by rockaction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 7,732 Posted March 12 When was the last time Matt Verderame steered is wrong? I mean, if you can't trust Matt Verderame, WHO CAN YOU TRUST? 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeler 2,186 Posted March 12 59 minutes ago, Milkman said: Cheers Steeler fans. You sound bitter. You are the one who has an ax to grind against the Steelers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, fantasycurse42 said: If someone fully guarantees Lev Bell $60mm, I'll eat my computer. The fetal position wouldn't even begin to describe the position I'd find myself in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamburn 1,626 Posted March 12 I can't wait for this plane to crash into the mountain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1,626 Posted March 12 Just now, Steeler said: You are the one who has an ax to grind against the Steelers I just think it's laughable when steeler fans defend their team blindly. They have squandered an amazing opportunity mismanaging their players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Just now, Grahamburn said: I can't wait for this plane to crash into the mountain. So much baggage and couldn't make weight. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeler 2,186 Posted March 12 35 minutes ago, flapgreen said: Why would their two best players be the only problem and not the coach or organization itself? I guess we can use 2019 as a referendum on who was the bigger problem in the past - Bell/Brown or the Steelers organization (and the players who remain). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Just now, Milkman said: I just think it's laughable when steeler fans defend their team blindly. They have squandered an amazing opportunity mismanaging their players. Those two sound really stable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Just now, Steeler said: I guess we can use 2019 as a referendum on who was the bigger problem in the past - Bell/Brown or the Steelers organization (and the players who remain). I wouldn't sign up for that if I was you. Those are some awfully good players to lose. I agree with you for the most part, though. What on earth were the Steelers going to do with these guys while fielding a good team? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stinkin Ref 997 Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. the "bad business decision" guys heads will explode.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuniorNB 6,795 Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. This would be such a Jets thing to do. Imagine paying close to 20 million a year for a running back who's never shown any talent separation from an old Deangelo Williams or James Conner? This would be purely for star power and to makes themselves newsworthy again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmo87usc 394 Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, LawFitz said: Matt VerderameVerified account @MattVerderame FollowFollow @MattVerderame More According to multiple sources, Le'Veon Bell could end up making between $17-20 million annually from the #Jets, should he sign there. It's believed the deal would be at least a four-year deal with as much as $60 million guaranteed. Multiple sources: Bell's agent, Bell's Mother, Bell's friends, Bell's burner twitter accounts... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 14,496 Posted March 12 Just now, JuniorNB said: makes themselves newsworthy again. Hey Guys! We won the back page of the Daily and Post today! Yippee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeler 2,186 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Milkman said: I just think it's laughable when steeler fans defend their team blindly. They have squandered an amazing opportunity mismanaging their players. Your logic is so very flawed. They had Bell/Brown and never won a Super Bowl because the defense wasn't good enough. How did they mismanage this situation? Had they paid Bell / Brown more money they would have won more Super Bowls? I don't follow. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawFitz 957 Posted March 12 11 minutes ago, rockaction said: This guy (Verderame) also had him going to the Raiders per sources forty minutes ago. So let's pump the brakes here... I have no idea if Verderame is credible, but he claims to be an NFL reporter for Fansided, FWIW (perhaps nothing). He details those figures for the Jets offer, but says Bell is closing in on a deal with Oakland. The two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. Like you with the Jets, I'd be shook if the Raiders paid him that much or anything close. We'll find out soon enough. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 I’m sure the agent will make sure the headline numbers are great, I’d like to see the details though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeler 2,186 Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, rockaction said: I wouldn't sign up for that if I was you. Those are some awfully good players to lose. I agree with you for the most part, though. What on earth were the Steelers going to do with these guys while fielding a good team? I was speaking more from a locker room / distraction / off the field nonsense POV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,172 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, LawFitz said: I have no idea if Verderame is credible, but he claims to be an NFL reporter for Fansided, FWIW (perhaps nothing). He details those figures for the Jets offer, but says Bell is closing in on a deal with Oakland. The two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. Like you with the Jets, I'd be shook if the Raiders paid him that much or anything close. We'll find out soon enough. If Bell had $60MM guaranteed on the table we wouldn't be talking about where he MAY sign anymore. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasycurse42 7,044 Posted March 12 (edited) 20 year contract / $400mm $23.5mm fully guaranteed Edited March 12 by fantasycurse42 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bojang0301 2,246 Posted March 12 This is comical. So the Ravens were the team and now they’re after Ingram... right, this stuff smells like ####. Only thing I’ve seen credible is the Jets. Everything else feels like a ploy to get someone to enter or the Jets to bid against themselves. We’ll see how smart they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bojang0301 2,246 Posted March 12 Honestly, at this point Bell’s agent makes Drew Rosenhaus look like an upstanding, articulate and reasonable guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites