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13 hours ago, Bronco Billy said:

 

Nope.  A lot lot of that missing.

 

13 hours ago, SayWhat? said:

Correct.  Which is why after you jumped in to quote me (in a response that wasn’t to you) and you failed to use any, I felt the need to help you out.  We’re now derailing a thread and I can’t help you any further. Good luck to you my friend.

I didn’t follow this enough to see who "started it"but can you guys please stop the pissing contest. 

I dig both of your contributions to the Shark Pool. 

The Shark Pool thanks you. 

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4 hours ago, joey said:

 

I didn’t follow this enough to see who "started it"but can you guys please stop the pissing contest. 

I dig both of your contributions to the Shark Pool. 

The Shark Pool thanks you. 

 

I was done.  And thanks for your PSA concern about those last 2 responses of mine and how they affect the now 171 pages of material here.  And now I’m done with this specific discussion too, so you don’t have to worry about it in this case unless you perpetuate it.

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Aside from the fact he called 911 to report an hours-old non-emergency, this doesn't sound like anything at all to me.

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52 minutes ago, lod001 said:

 What a moron. At least we got a good description of them. :lmao:

can sizes?

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"other things of value"...."things I USE"

 

So basically, they stole his weed.

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Damn.  At 27 I was married with 2 kids, a stay at home wife,  a house with a nice mortgage and another kid on the way.

I am having a hard time relating to Le'Veon's predicament of leaving 2 naked young ladies that I don't know in bed while I leave to work out and then coming home to find them gone and so is $1 million of my money, jewelry and clothes.

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Le'Veon Bell said he's "up for 500 [touches]" if the Jets win the Super Bowl.

Lofty expectations aside, Bell had more than 400 touches two years ago before remaining on the sidelines in 2018. After some rumors of Bell gaining weight this offseason, his teammates and the team believe he's in shape heading into the preseason. Coach Adam Gase also mentioned this week that the Jets may limit his preseason touches. "It’s a new offense," Gase said Wednesday. "We’ll be smart. He’s not going to be walking out of camp with the most reps he’s ever had." Gase's slower pace over the years could slightly cap Bell's upside, but he'll be coming off draft boards as a mid-level RB1.

SOURCE: Andy Vasquez on Twitter

Jul 25, 2019, 12:30 PM ET

 

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41 minutes ago, Tanner9919 said:

Gase's record of RBs isn't awe-inspiring..

Gase's previous RB's aren't awe-inspiring.

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4 hours ago, Faust said:

Gase's slower pace over the years could slightly cap Bell's upside

This does not worry me, if you look at his career in the NFL...

2013 - OC for DEN - they led the league in total plays - Knowshon Moreno had his only 1K rushing season, totals 1586 yds and 13 TD's - finished as RB4

2014 - OC for DEN - 7th in NFL in total plays - Ronnie Hillman and Montee Ball share the first 8 starts and just aren't getting it done - CJ Anderson starts the last 8 games, with 1057 yds and 10 TD's - finished RB1 during 2nd half of season (ironically, the RB2 was Leveon)

2015 - OC for CHI - 18th in total plays - he gets 30 yr old Matt Forte near the end of his career, who still manages to finish RB7 in only 13 games

2016 - HC for MIA - 32nd in total plays - Jay Ajayi starts the last 12 games and finishes RB8 during the span

2017 - HC for MIA - 22nd in total plays - Ajayi, Drake, and Williams share starts - only Drake has any real success - bad season for MIA RB's

2018 - HC for MIA - 32nd in total plays - the passing game blows, but the running game is quite good actually (I think they should've given Drake more opportunities earlier in the season) - All 3 MIA RB's average 4.5 YPC or higher - Drake finishes RB14 on only 173 touches and over 1K yds

From the numbers above, it seems Gase gets what he can given the players he is dealt.  It won't matter how slow the pace is for the Jets.  My real concern is how Bell's patient running style will mesh with the OL, but volume will be a non-issue.

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They throwing him the ball yo. He's a lock for top 7 RB finish barring injury. 

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1 hour ago, Milkman said:

They throwing him the ball yo. He's a lock for top 7 RB finish barring injury. 

Kinda how I see it too - too much volume not to finish as a top RB, and even better in PPR.  I would be totally shocked if he finished outside the top 10.

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6 hours ago, Milkman said:

They throwing him the ball yo. He's a lock for top 7 RB finish barring injury. 

i would agree.... but where in the top 7 is he finishing? because fantasy points wise RB7 is <<<< than RB1-3 usually at the end of the year

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39 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

That’s ok Bell. I won the dynasty where you’re on my team anyway - and I didn’t even have Conner.

same here, with conner, who would not have been relevent had bell played.

leveon did my team a favor, two 2019 studs for the price of one, favored to repeat.

an instance where it pays big to handcuff your studs.

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On 7/25/2019 at 8:43 PM, TheWinz said:

From the numbers above, it seems Gase gets what he can given the players he is dealt.  It won't matter how slow the pace is for the Jets.  My real concern is how Bell's patient running style will mesh with the OL, but volume will be a non-issue.

Agreed... Beside, from what I understand, Gase has never had a RB with superb caliber like Bell especially in receiving aspect.  He may not get 300+ rushing attempts this year but at least he'll get at least 80 targets.  So I believe he'll get at least 300+ touches.  Gase knows how valuable he is to Darnold especially in screen and short passes.  

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Le'Veon Bell will not play in the Jets' preseason opener.

It's a smart move after Bell sat out 2018. The Jets plan to limit Bell's preseason touches, but he's going to get enough reps to be comfortable in the new offense. Bell may not see the massive workloads he got in Pittsburgh coming off a long layoff on a depth chart with a few pass catchers behind him, but he's safe to draft as a mid-range RB1.

SOURCE: New York Post

Aug 7, 2019, 4:38 PM ET

 

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What is the story with the Jets O line this year?  For those considering Bell?

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They did add Ryan Kalil after that article was written

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1 hour ago, Penguin said:

They did add Ryan Kalil after that article was written

And Washington without Trent isn’t in the upper half. Sounds like that relationship is broken, it’s more about the medical staff & lack of trust than not having any guaranteed money left on his current deal.

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4 hours ago, xenon said:

What is the story with the Jets O line this year?  For those considering Bell?

still pretty below average. WIth Kalil or without. I keep hearing blurbs about Ty Montgomery too so keep that in mind.

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14 minutes ago, pbandy1 said:

still pretty below average. WIth Kalil or without. I keep hearing blurbs about Ty Montgomery too so keep that in mind.

Montgomery will be a hybrid tool, he won't eat into Bell's touches

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6 hours ago, pbandy1 said:

still pretty below average. WIth Kalil or without. I keep hearing blurbs about Ty Montgomery too so keep that in mind.

Reports from camp are that the oline actually looks really good and that's before Kalil although Winters just got hurt.

Gase loves Montgomery and they're are using both on the field at the same time in practice.  Bell started off slowly, but has been looking really good. The only concern might be conditioning and usage. The reports say that Bell comes in makes a good run and comes out.  So the question is are they working him slowly or will this be a trend during the season that limits his touches. For now I would say the former, but it's still a risk that must be considered.

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Am I the only one baffled by Bell going 5th? He goes from Pittsburgh to the Jets and is literally not downgraded? I wouldn’t take him until the 2/3 turn. 

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15 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

Am I the only one baffled by Bell going 5th? He goes from Pittsburgh to the Jets and is literally not downgraded? I wouldn’t take him until the 2/3 turn. 

I don't think it's that egregious but I'm certainly not targeting him there in a twelve-team scenario. I'm thinking top half of second, though.

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18 minutes ago, Elevencents said:

Am I the only one baffled by Bell going 5th? He goes from Pittsburgh to the Jets and is literally not downgraded? I wouldn’t take him until the 2/3 turn. 

5th is ridiculous.  2/3 turn is way late.  But I am with you generally.  Not a guy I really want on my team this year.  I'd probably take him as the 9th RB off the board, which means he won't be on any of my teams.

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On 8/20/2019 at 12:46 PM, Elevencents said:

Am I the only one baffled by Bell going 5th? He goes from Pittsburgh to the Jets and is literally not downgraded? I wouldn’t take him until the 2/3 turn. 

Man.....how we forget.

His floor in PPR is 1000 yards rushing, 35 receptions 300 yards and a total of 5 TD's. 

 

His floor. He will do better than that. He is being paid to be a horse. Top 10 pick in redraft in PPR. No question.

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On 8/20/2019 at 12:46 PM, Elevencents said:

Am I the only one baffled by Bell going 5th? He goes from Pittsburgh to the Jets and is literally not downgraded? I wouldn’t take him until the 2/3 turn. 

Considering he went 1 or 2 last year, he is being downgraded. Him falling to the 2/3 turn is pretty unrealistic anyways when you consider that Isaaih Crowell had some monster games and the Jets offensive line and weapons have been upgraded.

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6 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Considering he went 1 or 2 last year, he is being downgraded. Him falling to the 2/3 turn is pretty unrealistic anyways when you consider that Isaaih Crowell had some monster games and the Jets offensive line and weapons have been upgraded.

Think he goes around the 1/2 turn in PPR.  No way a RB with his pass catching skills drops outside of the second round.  

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ESPN's Rich Cimini projects Le'Veon Bell for 15-20 touches Week 1 against the Bills.

When asked if there were any restrictions for Bell in his first game in almost two calendar years, Jets coach Adam Gase said, "No, he's ready to go." Bell could lose some snaps early in the season to Ty Montgomery despite Gase's comments, but he's still locked into an RB1 role if he sees the projected 15-20 touches and should get better as the season progresses after not playing this preseason.

SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter

Sep 6, 2019, 4:40 PM ET

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(RotoWire) Bell rushed 17 times for 60 yards and caught six of nine targets for 32 yards and a touchdown in Sunday's 17-16 loss to the Bills. He also caught a two-point conversion.

Analysis: With a five-yard carry on his first touch, Bell became the fastest player in league history to reach 8,000 scrimmage yards, doing so in just 63 games. He didn't find much running room in this defensive struggle but flashed his pass-catching skills on a third-quarter possession, scoring New York's lone offensive touchdown with a nine-yard reception and following it up with a two-point conversion. Bell's supporting cast looks notably weaker than it was in Pittsburgh, but the versatile running back should still flourish given his tremendous skill set.

 

 

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NFL Week 1: Takeaways, insights and observations

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LE’VEON BELL PROVES QUITE ELUSIVE IN HIS JETS DEBUT

Though he had a modest performance from a box score perspective (92 yards, 23 touches), Le’Veon Bell was electric with the ball in his hands in his New York Jets debut. He forced a whopping nine missed tackles and averaged 3.53 yards after contact per attempt on the ground, and he did so despite being contacted at or behind the line of scrimmage on 11 of his 17 carries on the day. If he gets a little bit more help from his offensive line, the box score will start to look even better for Bell in games moving forward with New York.

 

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If he doesn't face the number two defense from last year that already added guys, he'll look better.

He'll also look better with another week for R. Anderson to heal and after the fourth game when Herndon gets back and they spread the field a bit.

This Jets team is actually pretty bad. They're a 6-10 team. Let's see how long Bell keeps trying. 

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Coach Adam Gase told reporters that Le'Veon Bell (shoulder) won't practice Thursday and will get an MRI.

The Jets are falling apart at the seams, as Sam Darnold (mono) has been ruled out for Week 2 and it appears that could be in Bell's potential range of outcomes as well. At the very least, it seems unlikely that Bell will play 100% of the Jets' offensive snaps Monday night against the Browns like he did in Week 1. Ty Montgomery is Bell's handcuff and would instantly be elevated into the RB2 conversation if Bell ultimately misses action.

SOURCE: Manish Mehta on Twitter.

Sep 12, 2019, 10:38 AM ET

 

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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN

Adam Gase on Le'Veon Bell's shoulder: "This could be just soreness. We don’t think it’s anything worse than that. But we’re probably being a little extra cautious."

 

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Is there a chance that Bilal would take over lead back duties and Montgomery would continue as COP back if Bell misses time?  Montgomery getting only 2 touches would indicate that Gase isn't that high on him.

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7 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

Is there a chance that Bilal would take over lead back duties and Montgomery would continue as COP back if Bell misses time?  Montgomery getting only 2 touches would indicate that Gase isn't that high on him.

Doubt it. Powell is 204. Monty profiles as a better early down back.

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