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I mean, you have a right to be nervous, we all should be, but I highly doubt it gets that far. Trump isn't in charge here, Mattis is and that guy is an ace. NK isn't going to sign their death warrant for no good reason and China isn't going to go to the mattresses for those losers. It'll work itself out.
If NK has a single working nuclear warhead-tipped weapon it will use it if it's losing some kind of military action. The question is if it will strike at South Korea, Japan, a U.S. strike force, or Pyongyang. Or, I guess, somewhere random.
Yea, but I don't think we get to that action. They are putting on a show for something.
Best estimates are between 10-20 nukes 10-40 kilotons each, that's from half to double Hiroshima. There's almost no way for our intel to have them all located, they're moved regularly. So it would be nearly impossible to defend Seoul. Fat kid also has thousands of artillery pieces that reportedly can flatten Seoul in an hour, and they stay in position. We can take them out, but not fast enough to protect 100s of thousands in Seoul. I'm no expert but this exercise with a sociopath makes no sense to me. When asked this weekend why cancel Australia and send the strike group at DPRK, McMaster said because it's prudent to do it, right? Well, wtf, why?
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Right. This ain't Syria. There's regular artillery within range of Seoul. Start raining shells and it's chaos in a modern global city.Best estimates are between 10-20 nukes 10-40 kilotons each, that's from half to double Hiroshima. There's almost no way for our intel to have them all located, they're moved regularly. So it would be nearly impossible to defend Seoul. Fat kid also has thousands of artillery pieces that reportedly can flatten Seoul in an hour, and they stay in position. We can take them out, but not fast enough to protect 100s of thousands in Seoul. I'm no expert but this exercise with a sociopath makes no sense to me. When asked this weekend why cancel Australia and send the strike group at DPRK, McMaster said because it's prudent to do it, right? Well, wtf, why?
Trump is a moron and I don't want to hear more about Mattis being such a brilliant guy.
Mattis is a brilliant guy. But not at politics and diplomacy. He's a hammer. It's funny how many nails he sees.
A brilliant hammer is a great thing in awful circumstances, but in a world desperately in need of avoiding them it's an oxymoron.
That was "The Day After". Unless you had a pregnancy scare at 8 years old?
Trump kicking ### worldwide. Someone has to kill the fat little toad. Maybe Trump can add that feather to his cap.sounds like Trump threatened China with military action against North Korea, which would send millions of refugees into China - which got China up off its ### to do something here...
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Nuke warheads don't actually go boom unless they're armed. I believe they can be destroyed without setting off a nuclear reaction...
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/03/iranian_nuclear_program_could_a_missile_strike_set_off_a_nuclear_detonation_.html
You'd still have a massive nuclear event centered on the release of the nuclear material.
I'm not certain the word "massive" is appropriate here....
No, nothing near the scale of detonation of a nuclear weapon - but it's basically a dirty bomb that'll disperse for a couple miles in every direction - likely more aided by the amount of explosive used to destroy it.
its very surprising that anyone has NKs back. I mean what is China gaining from supporting that kid? Coal?
The whole point of THAAD is that there is no detonation as the intercept missile just uses Kinetic energy to knock it out of the sky.
Yup and THAAD does that without blowing up the devise as it is a kinetic weapon much like Sabot round for a tank.
According to this, a good read on topic covering China's weirdness over the system, the nuke will go boom at high altitude. The timing of the detonation is forked so it's just a dirty-bomb mess, better than hitting it's target and better than an emp.
I think he's attempting to point out that your comment isn't really in tune with the rest of the discussion going on in the thread.
Right. I think this conversation started about destroying their nukes on the ground. Maybe I'm mistaken though idk, it's hard as hell to keep up
NK claims they have the ability to do so but what I have read is that the U.S. thinks it is only probable.
In 2013 DIA declassified documents claimed we have moderate certainty they have multiple warheads that can be delivered with ballistic missiles. They've seriously ramped up their program since then. An NGO that works on proliferation stated NK had enough fissionable material for 20 bombs and estimated 8-10 armed weapons. This isn't a topic to err on the side of lower estimates. Best to go forward as if they have all 20 ready to go.
If it wasn't at least probable, I doubt the rest of the world would be paying much attention to itchy-finger Kimmy.
