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Josh Freeman - what's his future hold? (2 Viewers)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Freeman was only sacked once and he had no carries.... I suppose he could have been knocked down. But I don't remember him getting harrassed too much. When would this have happened exactly?
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
LOL. Is this coach's speek for "Umm, maybe Ponder wasn't that bad after all"?
This looks like a teainwreck unfolding. What if Ponder starts this week and has a strong game? I could just see Frazer saying that Freeman continues to exhibit concussion symptoms. What a mess.
This looks like a teainwreck unfolding. What if Ponder starts this week and has a strong game? I could just see Frazer saying that Freeman continues to exhibit concussion symptoms. What a mess.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Bingo!
Leslie's Translation: "I watched the game tape and have decided Josh may be the worst QB (starter, backup, practice squad) in the league. I was doing anything I can to stop the inevitable termination at the end of this year... #####, looks like I'm f*cked unless Ponder can save me."
Gopher State
Footballguy
Gargoylez
Footballguy
Huh? Viking paid him three times too much even before his googly eye performance. He will most likely get Vet minimum the rest of his illustrious career.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
According to ESPNSTATs, Freeman threw as many overthrown passes in one game as Peyton Manning has all year.BusterTBronco said:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It was a helluva run!
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I don't care who the Vikings roll out at QB, Dallas DST = 
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
So they're going to pay Freeman 3.5 mill for one crappy game and then to sit around?
yeah seems weird they're not at least making him the backup so maybe they give him a shot at some point just to take another look before next season.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I'd really like to know what happened to him.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
not sure i understand why they're keeping him on the roster.
Freeman continues to be MIA in Minnesota
Posted by Mike Florio on December 11, 2013, 9:33 AM EST
After quarterback Josh Freeman secured his freedom from the Buccaneers (along with the right to collect the balance of his $8.43 million base salary), he selected the Vikings as his next destination.
The Vikings then rushed him to the field for a Monday night start against the Giants only two weeks after joining the team. He threw 53 passes, emerged with a concussion, quickly healed, and then disappeared.
A first-round pick in 2009 who had twice led the Bucs to victories over the Vikings in the Metrodome, Freeman has fallen out of a two-man quarterback rotation that spins from Christian Ponder to Matt Cassel back to Ponder.
So why are the Vikings continuing to pay Freeman $166,667 per week to not contribute? They could cut him at any time and owe him nothing, banking the cash and carrying the ensuing cap savings forward to 2014.
Apart from saving face for signing him in the first place, keeping Freeman makes him available for emergency duty, and it gives Minnesota exclusive negotiating rights on a new deal until March. But if the Vikings aren’t ready to play Freeman after having him in the building for two months, why would they want to make a long-term commitment to him?
The bigger question that never will be answered is whether the Vikings would still sign Freeman, if they knew in October what they know now. It’s likely safe to assume Freeman would have made a different decision.
Freeman continues to be MIA in Minnesota
Posted by Mike Florio on December 11, 2013, 9:33 AM EST
After quarterback Josh Freeman secured his freedom from the Buccaneers (along with the right to collect the balance of his $8.43 million base salary), he selected the Vikings as his next destination.
The Vikings then rushed him to the field for a Monday night start against the Giants only two weeks after joining the team. He threw 53 passes, emerged with a concussion, quickly healed, and then disappeared.
A first-round pick in 2009 who had twice led the Bucs to victories over the Vikings in the Metrodome, Freeman has fallen out of a two-man quarterback rotation that spins from Christian Ponder to Matt Cassel back to Ponder.
So why are the Vikings continuing to pay Freeman $166,667 per week to not contribute? They could cut him at any time and owe him nothing, banking the cash and carrying the ensuing cap savings forward to 2014.
Apart from saving face for signing him in the first place, keeping Freeman makes him available for emergency duty, and it gives Minnesota exclusive negotiating rights on a new deal until March. But if the Vikings aren’t ready to play Freeman after having him in the building for two months, why would they want to make a long-term commitment to him?
The bigger question that never will be answered is whether the Vikings would still sign Freeman, if they knew in October what they know now. It’s likely safe to assume Freeman would have made a different decision.
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enjoy!
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Is it possible the Vikes are doing this as some kind of favor to Bucs management or even the NFL, with maybe some kind of back door arrangement to compensate them somehow?
mr roboto
Footballguy
Not following here.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Well isn't it a mystery why the Vikes are paying him this amount of money for a 3rd string clipboard holder???
So then the answer must be that they have a reason for doing what they're doing.
They can't hold him, but they can pay him to stay (again, why?). They will almost certainly draft a QB in the 1st round next year.
So maybe the idea is the Bucs or the NFL thought Freeman would file some grievance or suit against them and they more or less asked the Vikes to do them a solid to keep him happy for a year?
Who knows, but unless there's some ulterior motive like that it seems kind of crazy once again what he's doing on the payroll.
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I think it's simple as the guy, as expected, was an epic failure & put together one of the worst starts in NFL history in his only start. One of the most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed from a 'professional' QB. I was as embarrassed of the coaching staff that anointed him starter.
I imagine he'll find a backup (or 3rd string gig) based on his physical tools. Good luck on him learning the playbook or throwing a timing pattern.
I imagine he'll find a backup (or 3rd string gig) based on his physical tools. Good luck on him learning the playbook or throwing a timing pattern.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok, but what about this?I think it's simple as the guy, as expected, was an epic failure & put together one of the worst starts in NFL history in his only start. One of the most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed from a 'professional' QB. I was as embarrassed of the coaching staff that anointed him starter.
I imagine he'll find a backup (or 3rd string gig) based on his physical tools. Good luck on him learning the playbook or throwing a timing pattern.
Any ideas?
Shanahanigans
Footballguy
I didn't realize they could still save money by cutting him. His usage in Minnesota is now even more mind-boggling.Ok, but what about this?I think it's simple as the guy, as expected, was an epic failure & put together one of the worst starts in NFL history in his only start. One of the most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed from a 'professional' QB. I was as embarrassed of the coaching staff that anointed him starter.
I imagine he'll find a backup (or 3rd string gig) based on his physical tools. Good luck on him learning the playbook or throwing a timing pattern.
Any ideas?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
You got me.Ok, but what about this?I think it's simple as the guy, as expected, was an epic failure & put together one of the worst starts in NFL history in his only start. One of the most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed from a 'professional' QB. I was as embarrassed of the coaching staff that anointed him starter.
I imagine he'll find a backup (or 3rd string gig) based on his physical tools. Good luck on him learning the playbook or throwing a timing pattern.
Any ideas?
I never understood signing the clown to a one year deal during the season to begin with.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Of course he would consider re-signing with Minnesota. He'll re-sign with any team that's willing.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Some embarrassing reading in this thread for sure. Not just wrong, vociferously wrong.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Reverse Kurt Warner. From NFL QB to grocery bagger.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Josh Freeman - QB - Vikings
Citing four sources, USA Today reports Josh Freeman was late for "numerous meetings" during his three months with the Vikings, and was "often among the last players to the facility."
Numerous players also told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that they were dumbfounded Freeman got the Week 7 start against the Giants because he had no clue how to run OC Bill Musgrave's offense. Freeman proceeded to turn in arguably the single worst quarterback performance of 2013, and coach Leslie Frazier never turned back to him. Freeman is now headed to unrestricted free agency.
Source: USA Today
Arguably? There's no argument. It was the worst QB performance of not only 2013, but one of the worst in the past 20 years. I thought after watching they should have drug tested him immediately after the game.
Citing four sources, USA Today reports Josh Freeman was late for "numerous meetings" during his three months with the Vikings, and was "often among the last players to the facility."
Numerous players also told USA Today's Tom Pelissero that they were dumbfounded Freeman got the Week 7 start against the Giants because he had no clue how to run OC Bill Musgrave's offense. Freeman proceeded to turn in arguably the single worst quarterback performance of 2013, and coach Leslie Frazier never turned back to him. Freeman is now headed to unrestricted free agency.
Source: USA Today
Arguably? There's no argument. It was the worst QB performance of not only 2013, but one of the worst in the past 20 years. I thought after watching they should have drug tested him immediately after the game.
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Just amazing for a guy trying to turn over a new leaf on a new team. Can't see him anything but out of the league next year. He had a lot of talent but he seems to have pissed it away.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Bankruptcy by the year 2017 written all over him!
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Schiano took a lot of heat but it seems he had Freeman pegged correctly as a loser.
lod01
Footballguy
If he does, he will only get a chance with a team that is already a loser. Since he can't elevate a team, he will fail.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I'm sure he'll get a crack at a backup job somewhere due to his arm that you can't teach. As a guy that struggles to learn the playbook to begin with, I don't see him lasting long.as a backup. He's simply not reliable on/off the field.
He might have gotten away with it as a 1st round 'franchise' QB but he'll be on a zero tolerance policy the rest of his NFL career. (which I don't see lasting much longer if he doesn't get his life straightened out)
His performance on MNF vs. the Giants was the worst I've personally seen in the last 15 years. And that's even with giving Frazier a big part of the blame for playcalling in that game. Said it at the time, but it was so bad that I thought they should have drug tested Freeman after the game.
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
... a clipboard? has that been said yet?
I think you're being a little hard on the guy. I'm not by any means a freeman fan, but even before his first start in Minny, I saw how long he had been with the team and was shocked that the coach would put him into that position so soon after his arrival.
I knew it was gonna be a stinker of a game because he was not familiar with the offense. I dont know what you expect from a guy who probably knows 25% of the plays (and only if he studied hard) but I assure you, there are only so many things you can do as an offense, and minimal adjustments can be made.
The decision to start him was a poor one and the team did him a disservice in starting him at that time.
That being said, I've seen the guy look great, and I've seen him look bad prior to his arrival in Minny. I think we'd be dumb to discount that he could still get it done if he gets his head in the game and sort out his off field issues. (which may or may not have been resolved prior to his arrival in Minny)
either way, my point: You can blame him for any poor performance you want Except the one in Minny. I put that one on the coach's shoulders as he should never have been on the field except in a relief role. He needed at least one and maybe two more games to learn the offense.
