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Shark Pool Mock #2 - "What teams WILL do" - Spots open. (2 Viewers)
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Ridgelake
Footballguy
I've got to run. So I'll give you 2 picks.
Travis Frederick - OC/OG Wisconsin. or Dallas Thomas OL - Tennessee.
I was looking to go safety here, but did not see a guy at value. RB is also a consideration but there should be value in round 4 or even 5 at that spot. The value of these interior OL is good at this point and fills a big need. The remake of the Dallas OL continues.
Travis Frederick - OC/OG Wisconsin. or Dallas Thomas OL - Tennessee.
I was looking to go safety here, but did not see a guy at value. RB is also a consideration but there should be value in round 4 or even 5 at that spot. The value of these interior OL is good at this point and fills a big need. The remake of the Dallas OL continues.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
So Ridgelake doesn't have to wait around...
3.79 - Pittsburgh - Marquise Goodwin, WR - Texas
3.80 - Dallas - Travis Frederick - OC/OG Wisconsin
3.79 - Pittsburgh - Marquise Goodwin, WR - Texas
3.80 - Dallas - Travis Frederick - OC/OG Wisconsin
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Evilgrin, go ahead and change that pick if you'd like.
Evilgrin 72
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Philip Thomas, S, Fresno St.
I don't think he gets out of the 2nd round in the actual draft.
I don't think he gets out of the 2nd round in the actual draft.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
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Oops. OK, whatevs - stick with the receiver. You know what, take Marquise Goodwin. I am hearing a lot of scuttlebutt lately that he's not making it out of round 3 on Friday and the Steelers have clearly shown they're not averse to spending a 3 on a receiver that's undersized and lacks productivity but posesses rare physical tools.He didn't get out of the 2nd round in this one either. The first page is updated.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Folks, please use the search function on the thread for the player before you post him as your pick. Thanks!
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I contacted amicsta for the Giants pick. I'm thinking an o-lineman like Bakhtiari would go here.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Yeah Bakhtiari is a good fit. I have tackle as their biggest need.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
No sooner do I post it than amicsta shows up. Go ahead, bro.
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Im not sure how i feel about bakhtiari. Again, the giants usually go bpa and they did address o-line in round 2. For that reason i say they go with jamie collins out of southern miss. Physical freak who played well to match (4% missed tackle rate, lowest in the nation). Im a huge fan and i think big blue could be too. OLB definitely still fits a need and i think the value matches up better.
Im not sure how i feel about bakhtiari. Again, the giants usually go bpa and they did address o-line in round 2. For that reason i say they go with jamie collins out of southern miss. Physical freak who played well to match (4% missed tackle rate, lowest in the nation). Im a huge fan and i think big blue could be too. OLB definitely still fits a need and i think the value matches up better.
Im not sure how i feel about bakhtiari. Again, the giants usually go bpa and they did address o-line in round 2. For that reason i say they go with jamie collins out of southern miss. Physical freak who played well to match (4% missed tackle rate, lowest in the nation). Im a huge fan and i think big blue could be too. OLB definitely still fits a need and i think the value matches up better.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Collins went at 2.61.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Guys. The 2nd post is updated with all the picks.
I think Bailey was the better pick here. I think Bailey can replace Sanders if he leaves next year. I wonder if Goodwin can.Oops. OK, whatevs - stick with the receiver. You know what, take Marquise Goodwin. I am hearing a lot of scuttlebutt lately that he's not making it out of round 3 on Friday and the Steelers have clearly shown they're not averse to spending a 3 on a receiver that's undersized and lacks productivity but posesses rare physical tools.He didn't get out of the 2nd round in this one either. The first page is updated.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's a decent pick. Maybe a round too early, but could certainly be considered here. 
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Thinking a CB like Amerson for the Vikes here.
Yeah, I doubt he was going to make it to the Dolphins next pick in this mock draft (if we get that far) though.That's a decent pick. Maybe a round too early, but could certainly be considered here.
ETA: Just noticed he is from Miami too.
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Bailey wouldn't have made it past the Redskins.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I was talking about Brennan Williams.
Amerson is good value at this point. I think he has elite potential personally, he will likely be a steal wherever he goes.
He was on my mind there as well.
cheese
Footballguy
3.84 Baccari Rambo - Georgia ---> Bengals
I won't pretend to be an expert on college safety play, but the Bengals need someone polished and good in coverage. They really don't ask safeties to do anything special and are looking for an interchangable clone to pair with Reggie Nelson. I don't think that role is worth a 1st round pick to them or me, so we're going to try to plug this 3rd rounder straight into the starting defense. Rambo is not in the mold of some of the huge hitters coming out of college lately and I think that will actually appeal to the Bengals who use more of a "centerfield" approach.
Shamarko Thomas or JJ Wilcox could be picked here too, but I don't think either is as ready to be OK out there day 1. Plus, the obvious Georgia drafting bias.
I won't pretend to be an expert on college safety play, but the Bengals need someone polished and good in coverage. They really don't ask safeties to do anything special and are looking for an interchangable clone to pair with Reggie Nelson. I don't think that role is worth a 1st round pick to them or me, so we're going to try to plug this 3rd rounder straight into the starting defense. Rambo is not in the mold of some of the huge hitters coming out of college lately and I think that will actually appeal to the Bengals who use more of a "centerfield" approach.
Shamarko Thomas or JJ Wilcox could be picked here too, but I don't think either is as ready to be OK out there day 1. Plus, the obvious Georgia drafting bias.
Evilgrin 72
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Could go either way. They're very similar in size - Bailey has superior production and strength/toughness but Goodwin has superior speed. World class speed, in fact. I'm just a touch skeptical of all WVU receivers as the offense they play in is SO different than what they'll see in the NFL. The deciding factor is that I think Haley really wants his "gadget-play" guy with speed to burn. I think that's where a 3rd rounder may contribute in year one in this offense. He had McCluster in KC and they drafted Rainey last year to be that guy, only to have to release him when he proved to be a knucklehead. Whichever receiver gets drafted here is likely to see the ball on inside draws, reverses, bubble screens, sprint screens, etc. I think both guys could perform in that role. but Goodwin fits the profile better, as he's right there with Austin as the quickest, most explosive players in the draft.That said, Bailey could easily be a steal here and I wouldn't be remotely surprised or disappointed if he was the pick. I've just been hearing a lot lately that Goodwin really opened some eyes at the Senior Bowl with how much more refined he was than many thought based on his limited tape, great body control, great hands, etc. Teams think he could be another (slightly smaller) Wallace, and his stock has risen to the point where the pundits now believe he'll be gone by the mid 3rd.I think Bailey was the better pick here. I think Bailey can replace Sanders if he leaves next year. I wonder if Goodwin can.Oops. OK, whatevs - stick with the receiver. You know what, take Marquise Goodwin. I am hearing a lot of scuttlebutt lately that he's not making it out of round 3 on Friday and the Steelers have clearly shown they're not averse to spending a 3 on a receiver that's undersized and lacks productivity but posesses rare physical tools.He didn't get out of the 2nd round in this one either. The first page is updated.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Agreed. I also think they paid Brown all that money to be the #1 guy. Everyone thinks they need to replace Wallace with a "#1 WR type", but I think Brown is the guy that's now going to fit that role. They have a couple possession-types with Sanders and Cotchery (hands, crisp routes, can take a hit and hold the ball), they have a red-zone guy (Burress.) What they're missing is a guy who can torch you vertically and a dynamic slot receiver (although Sanders can play the slot.) So, I think they'll either draft a guy who can do those things, like Austin or Goodwin, or they move Sanders to the slot and draft a kid like Hopkins who's just a beast and outmuscle defensive backs and make the tough 3rd down/sideline catches. I'm not sure a Justin Hunter (or that type) helps them that much as Brown is going to fill that role.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Wide receiver or safety here for the Team Soon To Be Renamed?
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Andy Dufresne
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3.85 - Washington - David Amerson, CB/S - NC State
He should find a home either at corner or safety for the secondary-challenged Notwhiteskins.
He should find a home either at corner or safety for the secondary-challenged Notwhiteskins.
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Andy Dufresne
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3.86 - Indianapolis - Sam Montgomery, OLB - LSU
FUBAR
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I'm happy with this pick. Redskins have a much better secondary with Banks and Amerson.
FUBAR
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think OG Winters or WR Dobson here. I can't find an OLB that fits at this point.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
3.87 - Seattle - Brian Winters, OG - Kent St.
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Pipes
Footballguy
3.88 - Green Bay - Markus Wheaton, WR Oregon State
While there are a few offensive lineman on the board the Packers like, Wheaton is the highest ranked player left. He should help out in the return game immediately and adds a vertical threat to the passing game.
While there are a few offensive lineman on the board the Packers like, Wheaton is the highest ranked player left. He should help out in the return game immediately and adds a vertical threat to the passing game.
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I liked the center from Cal in Schwienke instead. But Wheaton is okay but I would like that OL upgraded.
Pipes
Footballguy
I was debating between him, Wheaton and Quis. I know Thompson likes all 3 of those guys alot but went with Wheaton due to him grading out quite a bit higher than remaining lineman. True to his board I think they go with Wheaton though in reality I think he'll be gone and the Packers would draft a someone like Schwienke in the 3rd. I would be happy with that pick as well.
biju
Footballguy
Sorry for the miss, I've been in meetings all morning.
I don't think this is necessarily a bad pick, but if I were to guess I think they would focus more on a RT and probably later in the draft. I think more pressing needs are TE, WLB (Sean Porter perhaps) and a backup for Earl Thomas (not that you can get a replacement in the 3rd round, but someone fast that doesn't break up the scheme too much).
