MoveToSkypager
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Lamar Miller, 2016, Infinity and beyond (3 Viewers)
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He is a victim of the scandal that has basically torn te Miami offensive line to shreds. They have no one to block for the run game anymore. Incognito was one of the better run blockers in the league. Miller was starting to heat up and then all hell broke loose. He's just a bench stash now at best until they get the I line issues fixed which might not happen this year.
cstu
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Chicago Hooligan
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Dropped today just to block my opponent from picking up a WR.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
This guy is terrible. To anyone that think he'll be good just because he was a Miami Hurricane, think again. I think we all know who we are talking about here.
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Cheesedawg
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There is no offensive line. Adrian Peterson couldn't get yards on Miami. Offense is an unfixable mess for 2013.
MoveToSkypager
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Nero
Footballguy
Kind of like saying Donald Brown couldn't get yard with Indy's line since Trent can't. Just way more disrespectful!
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
Good to see who the "Idiots R Us" club is. Miami lost almost its entire offensive line and you think that's the RB's fault.
MoveToSkypager
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Nero
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My apologies if something I said came across as if I was blaming Lamar Miller for the Miami O-line injuries. What I was alluding to is Miller is a terrible running back and should not be compared to Peterson. Its disrespectful! Appreciate the offer, but I want no part of your club.Cheesedawg said:
Cheesedawg
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When the team has quit and the OL has disintegrated and your conclusion is that the RB is terrible, you have joined the club. It wouldn't be surprising to find that you were the last one to realize it.
Nero
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Quite the contrary. I recognized Miller's ineptitude long ago. Its you and your club members that continue to use external events to explain/excuse Miller's lack of talent and production.
JustinHawkins
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pop open your beer boys, its MILLER TIME!!!
Miller is not ap. Not even in the same sphere. Worlds apart. Peterson can create behind. A bad o line. I have seen enough of Miller this year to make my final judgement on him:
Above average speed. Decent pass catcher. Decent to poor field vision. Can't move a pile. Goes down daily with contact. Needs good blocking to create positive yards. Shows hesitancy at the Los.
No thanks. And this is coming from a (reformed) miller fan. Own him in dynasty.
Above average speed. Decent pass catcher. Decent to poor field vision. Can't move a pile. Goes down daily with contact. Needs good blocking to create positive yards. Shows hesitancy at the Los.
No thanks. And this is coming from a (reformed) miller fan. Own him in dynasty.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
Nice retort to an August post. With that you cement your "Idiots R Us" club presidency! Thanks for volunteering.
interesting result for miller yesterday. I didnt watch the game so I'm intersted to hear your comments... but I am guessing the 20+ carries was mostly due to the game dictating that the dolphins offense pretty much just had to not screw up to beat the offensively challenged jets.... im still hesitant to start miller even with the good matchups he has next 3 weeks....
He had a nice screen called back on a crappy downfield blocking penalty and a TD overturned too, if those break his way then he would have been looking at a really nice game.
He was more assertive lowering his pad and banging at the line and even broke a couple tackles. The problem is he just can't ever seem to move the pile, even when he gets tackled hes getting driven backbards a lot instead of being able to goo forward for an extra yard or two. I think he's a nice flex play the rest of the way regardless, he will have plenty of opportunity.
MoveToSkypager
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He wouldn't have gotten the yardage if it weren't for the penalty.
Mmm wrong, was a block in the back by Clay that didn't have much bearing on the play.
You're a weak troll skypager, and you're most likely broke as you were illegal streaming a primetime game the other day rather than watching it on a tv like most normal people. You posting from the public library? Trolling doesn't pay bud
Todem
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The screen called back and the TD overturned (on inconclusive video evidence I may add) turned a great FF day for him into a decent one.
As far as how he looked? Like Lamar Miller when given 17-20 touches. Productive. And against the number one rushing defense with a shoddy D+ OL to boot. He should be a very solid flex play the rest of the way...and don't be surprised to see him have a couple of big games sprinkled in.
The Dolphins play calling is still an abortion. Through the first 2 quarters they did everything in their power to keep the Jets in a game they were never in. That Jets offense is offensive. LOL.
But Lamar was solid and if he had been getting this kind of work most of the season.....his numbers would be a good deal better and a solid #2 FF RB as I thought he could be. But this coaching staff refused to give him more touches even though his production when given double digit touches for the most part warrant more involvement. He can be a deadly game breaker......but when he is not getting enough touches.....he is being wasted.
The problem with the Dolphins is they think they have a dynamic passing game.......but it is average at best. Tannehill is proving to me right now....he can't throw the ball downfield with accuracy. He missed a few wide open throws yesterday for easy chunk plays.....he needs to get better with his deep ball. Hence why Wallace has suffered this season. It really is not Wallace....it's the fact Tannehill is not throwing the ball deep with accuracy...and the fact he waits too long before he throws go routes and fly routes.
I am pretty dissapointed this season with Tannehills development. Granted he is playing behind an abortion of an OL and that is playing into his stunted growth this season. But when he has had time to stretch the field.....he has failed to deliever.
As far as how he looked? Like Lamar Miller when given 17-20 touches. Productive. And against the number one rushing defense with a shoddy D+ OL to boot. He should be a very solid flex play the rest of the way...and don't be surprised to see him have a couple of big games sprinkled in.
The Dolphins play calling is still an abortion. Through the first 2 quarters they did everything in their power to keep the Jets in a game they were never in. That Jets offense is offensive. LOL.
But Lamar was solid and if he had been getting this kind of work most of the season.....his numbers would be a good deal better and a solid #2 FF RB as I thought he could be. But this coaching staff refused to give him more touches even though his production when given double digit touches for the most part warrant more involvement. He can be a deadly game breaker......but when he is not getting enough touches.....he is being wasted.
The problem with the Dolphins is they think they have a dynamic passing game.......but it is average at best. Tannehill is proving to me right now....he can't throw the ball downfield with accuracy. He missed a few wide open throws yesterday for easy chunk plays.....he needs to get better with his deep ball. Hence why Wallace has suffered this season. It really is not Wallace....it's the fact Tannehill is not throwing the ball deep with accuracy...and the fact he waits too long before he throws go routes and fly routes.
I am pretty dissapointed this season with Tannehills development. Granted he is playing behind an abortion of an OL and that is playing into his stunted growth this season. But when he has had time to stretch the field.....he has failed to deliever.
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Touchdown There
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There is a chance that Philbin is fired at the end of the season and that the new coach will come in and put Lamar in a better position next year. Solid dynasty hold on a young guy. Good year of experience for Lamar Miller IMO.
MoveToSkypager
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No. It was offensive PI, because Clay engaged the defender downfield prior the pass. It was playside and the defender had a play if he wasn't illegally engaged by Clay.Mmm wrong, was a block in the back by Clay that didn't have much bearing on the play.
You're a weak troll skypager, and you're most likely broke as you were illegal streaming a primetime game the other day rather than watching it on a tv like most normal people. You posting from the public library? Trolling doesn't pay bud
saintfool
Dead sexy
his yards-per-completion are near the bottom of the league but everything else holds up. i don't know how worried i would be given the circumstances. at worst, he deserves another year before judgment can be rendered. there are plenty of 2nd year QBs this season who are facing the same challenges as Tannehill - bad coaching, terrible o-line, spotty personnel - that are imploding and regressing catastrophically.
Todem
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I don't disagree. I like Tannehill, but he has got to get better at making uicker decisions, feeling pressure in the pocket and being accurate downfield. This year as well as last year he has missed a boatload of easy scores downfield with bad accuracy. Can't deny that.
But he is a QB I have patience with because he has a lot of great tools, and is cool in the pocket...sometimes too cool and he needs to get a better sense of pressure.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Ouch, next to Trent Lamar gotta be bust of the year
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
I dont know that people had as many expectations on Miller as they did for trent. He has been a disappointment.
Timmay
Footballguy
Anyone starting Lamar this week?
I think im rolling with him this week in my flex over Justin Hunter, Ridley, and Cotchery.
Lamar is playing @ Bills, Dolphins have a spot in the playoffs to play for, he received 15 carriers last week, Thomas received 5, but Thomas and Thigpen both got receiving TD's.
I think im rolling with him this week in my flex over Justin Hunter, Ridley, and Cotchery.
Lamar is playing @ Bills, Dolphins have a spot in the playoffs to play for, he received 15 carriers last week, Thomas received 5, but Thomas and Thigpen both got receiving TD's.
Shutout
Footballguy
Was true in April. Is true now. This was always a case of too much optimism. This guy isn't the answer.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
It's hard to build an NFL ground game around a guy who can't consistently run through 1st contact. Speed is nice, but it's pretty far from the most important attribute in a RB. Miller was, and is, pretty unlikely to be more than a RBBC guy for an extended period of time.
Sherman
cstu
Footballguy
That didn't happen.
FF'ers, welcome to the three headed monster that is the Dolphins running game.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
I think the Moreno signing says more about Thomas than it does Miller. Miller is still young at only 22 years old - he's younger than some guys coming into the league as rookies this year such as Hyde. I think it could be beneficial to have an veteran like Moreno on the team to show him how it's done... if there's an dynasty owner out there wanting to dump him cheap to just cut bait, may want to consider him as a stash.
Shutout
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
I think Moreno runs away with the lead role here, with Miller in the COP role he's best suited for, and Daniel Thomas completely on the bench, which is where he should be.
Moreno obviously won't be putting up RB1 numbers anymore, but he might be a decent value as a low end RB2 or RB3 if he falls far enough in drafts. I could see a 225 - 850, 30 - 200, 6-7 TD type of year for him.
This should put an end to the Lamar Miller hype for good, hopefully. Dude just isn't cut out to carry the mail in the NFL which was obvious even when he was in college IMO.
Moreno obviously won't be putting up RB1 numbers anymore, but he might be a decent value as a low end RB2 or RB3 if he falls far enough in drafts. I could see a 225 - 850, 30 - 200, 6-7 TD type of year for him.
This should put an end to the Lamar Miller hype for good, hopefully. Dude just isn't cut out to carry the mail in the NFL which was obvious even when he was in college IMO.
Shutout
Footballguy
What it says is that they need a guy to help right the o-line woes. THat is the benefit of this signing for the real-life dolphins. They didn't sign this guy to be what he was in Denver. They signed him to protect Tannehill. One year deal. Wear him out sacrificing his body to protect the QB until they can rebuild the line. That is what this is all about.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Let it go, man. Miller brings nothing to the table outside of speed. Young garbage is still garbage.
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