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Hard for me to believe that a HEALTHY Ellington doesn't average 12 carries and 4 catches a game. I'm not going to predict injuries in yearly projects, but he should probably be handicapped in dynasty by them a small bit.
I don't like him in dynasty. He does seem injury prone, Johnson is lurking, and no clue how much tread Palmer has left to keep that offense rolling. I do think he's a worthwhile gamble in standard redraft in the late 4th or early 5th.
Ellington was never healthy last year. Remember he hurt his foot before the season started and some speculated it could cost him a significant amount of time. Instead, he played hurt through almost all of the season before the week 14 hip pointer shut him down. Granted, injuries are concern for him. However, I think his dip in performance has to be viewed in light of the injuries. Despite the injuries and poor performance, he still outperformed where he is currently being drafted. If he stays healthy and Palmer stays healthy, he is going to be a big value. Last year, in non ppr, Ellington played 6 games with Palmer at QB and put up these numbers: 397 rushing, 197 receiving and 3 TDs. All of this was with a bad foot.
I agree that the injury concerns are going to limit his career in dynasty, however I don't think Johnson is the guy he is going to lose the job to.
Good luck with that, as his ADP in MFL 10s is at pick 36, right at the end of the 3rd. And in the majority of leagues he gone by the mid to early 4th. That said, I still tend to think he's good value where he's going.
I'm basing it on adp I am seeing in some non PPR. 5th Round is probably too optimistic though.
Any thoughts beyond what a magic 8ball could provide?
He said "if healthy". Last year he wasn't healthy and was over 1000 yards and 5 scores in only 12 games without Palmer in half of them. What exactly do you object to?
He objects to objectivity.He said "if healthy". Last year he wasn't healthy and was over 1000 yards and 5 scores in only 12 games without Palmer in half of them. What exactly do you object to?
Ellington is not a Seahawk.He said "if healthy". Last year he wasn't healthy and was over 1000 yards and 5 scores in only 12 games without Palmer in half of them. What exactly do you object to?
Well, one can hope all other league owners are reading/buying the Rotowire "analysis," and adjust accordingly. Could be a gift, actually. Not sure on Ellington, but generally speaking.
By now everyone knows Rotoworld has it's agendas/bias within the blurbs they post - but the news is still worth reading and discussing. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Agree.
As is David Johnson.
Mostly agree though I was high on Spiller 2 summers ago. Ironically these two were quite a tandem at Clemson.
I beg to differ, kind sir... The RW biases are plain sad and obvious. The reported news was "Arians to give Ellington 20 touches". How do you get from that specific piece of news to the analytical conclusion that was published? Let's leave aside the post's absurd tone of "Arians / the Cardinals are idiots and I obviously know better, so I am going to write the exact opposite of their stated view".
What part of his statement is untrue?
Johnson is clearly bigger.
So you agree with their conclusion that Ellington won't get 20 touches but you think they are biased?
It's that this is a particularly egregious example of something I've also seen here at FBGs. They get locked into their particular analysis to the point of copy-pasting it in whether the specific news in question supports or contradicts the conclusion.Roto is highly invested, it appears, in its prediction that Ellington will be displaced by Johnson. To stand by that is fine, but to attach that to a news item the content of which points in the exact opposite direction SHOULD be accompanied by some kind of acknowledgement thereof.
Again, so what? Where is the benefit in being locked into a position of a player? Do they make more money somehow?
I think Arodin has captured the argument well. It is not about whether you believe RW is correct about Ellington - that is subjective. It's also not about whether RW should stand by their analysis or somehow adapt it based on the news - this is also subjective.
That is not proven. Ellington hurt his foot before the season started last year. We have never seen a healthy Ellington been given a full workload.
I believe that is likely.
Although I read RW for the news and not so much for their spin on the news, I think it's strange that anyone rag on Ellington for his ypc last year. They totally disregard his 5.5 ypc as a rookie, his suspect line and the fact that he entered last year with an injury many players might not have played through, yet still put up 5 RB1 weeks, an RB2 season and RB1 FPG in 12 games in PPR.
