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I keep reading all these lies and misunderstandings about Adolf Hitler in nearly every political thread. So I decided it was important to set the record straight:

1. Hitler was not a religious Christian. (This is argued a lot by atheists and secularists.) Sometimes Hitler made references to God and Christianity for political purposes, but that's all it was. Though he came from a Catholic family (no Jewish ancestors, BTW!), there is no record of him having attended church on a regular basis (or even at all.) None of Hitler's actions or crimes were committed in the name of Christianity.

2. Hitler was not anti- Christian. (This is argued a lot by religious Christians.) The Third Reich heavily restricted both the Catholic and Lutheran churches, as institutions, but only in the same way that they restricted ALL previously independent institutions. One prominent member of the government, Alfred Rosenberg, was virulently anti-Christian, and he is often used as a source to prove this point, but none of his "recommendations" (having Mein Kampf replace the Bible, and a swastika replace the Cross, etc.), were ever implemented by the state. Christians were free to worship and did so throughout the 12 years the Nazis were in power.

3. Hitler did not seize guns. (This is argued by the NRA and its supporters.) In fact, private gun ownership actually increased during the Third Reich as restrictions were lifted which had been placed on gun owners during the Weimar regime. It is true that Jews were restricted from owning guns, but this did not occur until several years after the Nuremberg laws (expelling Jews from German social life) were already in place, and it was largely for show, since extremely few of Germany's Jews were armed in the first place.

4. Hitler was not a Darwinist. Some historians have made the somewhat questionable argument that Hitler was a "social Darwinist", though Hitler himself never used this term, nor does he ever refer to Darwin or evolution in any way. Intelligent Design proponents have turned this into an argument that Hitler was a result of teaching evolution; in his film promoting Intelligent Design, Ben Stein actually visits Auschwitz as a warning as to what will happen if evolution is taught. In point of fact, Darwin's works were banned in Nazi Germany and The Origin of the Species was one of the books publicly burned by Goebbels in 1933.

5. Hitler was not a socialist. Despite the name, National Socialism had very little socialism, and what it did have was thrown out when Hitler rose to power. It is true that the Nazis, like Socialists, were collectivist in nature, but they focused on race rather than class as their distinction. The Nazis were an extreme right-wing, not left-wing movement.

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Already showed the link that Hitler had Jewish ancestry.

You can show a hundred links; there's no evidence of it.

Except for the DNA, but whatever.

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Always tipped at least 18%, even when the service was a little slow. He just felt it was the right thing to do.

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6.) Hitler did not do paintings of dogs.

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Hitler spent thousands of deutsche marks every month on pornographic hummels.

Oy vey!

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

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I bet there is a video out there of him in a bunker absolutely piffed that Tim Tebow was cut. IF not, there likely will be in 5.......4............3............2............

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Already showed the link that Hitler had Jewish ancestry.

You can show a hundred links; there's no evidence of it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/hitler-had-jewish-and-african-roots-dna-tests-show.html

There are no pure "Aryans"- DNA demonstrates that everybody has some mixed blood. But the comment "Hitler had a Jewish ancestor" usually refers to someone a bit closer, like a mom or grandmother, with the implication that Hitler was aware of it. That's a common falsehood that is often related.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

Almost literally?

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Already showed the link that Hitler had Jewish ancestry.

You can show a hundred links; there's no evidence of it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/7961211/hitler-had-jewish-and-african-roots-dna-tests-show.html
There are no pure "Aryans"- DNA demonstrates that everybody has some mixed blood. But the comment "Hitler had a Jewish ancestor" usually refers to someone a bit closer, like a mom or grandmother, with the implication that Hitler was aware of it. That's a common falsehood that is often related.
So there is evidence, just none that Hitler knew of it.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

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“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the AlmightyCreator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program thecharacter of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church hasnever allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundredyears since it was formulated, but every suggestion for itsamendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has beenrejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can bebuilt up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory orirreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so longas logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as afighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surroundedby a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were andsummoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatestnot as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christianand as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lordat last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of theTemple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fightagainst the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, withdeepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the factthat it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. Asa Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I havethe duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there isanything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it isthe distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a dutyto my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work andwork and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have onlyfor their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morningand see these men standing in their queues and look into theirpinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a verydevil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord twothousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor peopleare plundered and exposed.”[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering apolitical opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism onhis personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quotedin Freethought Today April 1990]“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will ofthe Almighty Creator.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of thefatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the missionassigned to it by the Creator.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without thepractical existence of a religious belief.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of hisestimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drovethose enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while theenemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will bewavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest ina fanatical outlook.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemnsplendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, theabbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to myfather, the highest and most desirable ideal.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1]“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but fromtime to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. Atall events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the manand the movement, which in those days guided Vienna’s destinies: Dr.Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 2]“…the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party… was toassume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the peoplefulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. WhetherProtestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularlyat the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a singleholy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned tohis own heaven.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as longas these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals andethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with thescheming of political parties.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions ofhis people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to bein politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes![Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement waswanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct andwell-planned.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scalepropaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychologicalinstincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been rankedamong the great minds of our people.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader ofthe Christian Social movement]“Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormyenthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from anoverflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permittedto live at this time.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]“I had so often sung ‘Deutschland u:ber Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ atthe top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act ofgrace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of theeternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the veryfirst prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can alwaysand only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violencewhich does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be waveringand uncertain.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]“I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true artwhich has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Onlythe Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger’s time achieveda certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of itssuccess.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 6]“Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens alongthe endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s gracesmiled on His ungrateful children.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on WorldWar I]“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as itcontinues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, thefounders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men ofthis earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only theweak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to auniversal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all othergreat reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands MartinLuther as well as Richard Wagner.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, generalviews among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. Thefirst prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things isthe facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. Inlate marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institutionwhich, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace tohumanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being whowith his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against thepoisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is likea hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill offare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you willhardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestationsof our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,and cultural idea.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the CulturalWarfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not foughtto its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years fromnow. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want toprofane the Almighty.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa inorder to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which canboast but very modest success compared to the advance of theMohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they losemillions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to allreligious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; preciselyfor the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moralattitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful fromthe standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a usefulreplacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrineand faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditionalauthority of the content of this faith is the foundation of allefficacy.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess areligious institution, if for no other reason because he lacksidealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutelyforeign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imaginedwhich lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form.Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter,but only for a practical and profitable life in this world.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]“The best characterization is provided by the product of thisreligious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as hisnature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of thenew doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitudetoward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip todrive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, whothen as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for hisbusiness existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, whileour present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging forJewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindleswith atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]“….the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evilassumes the living shape of the Jew.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11, precisely echoingMartin Luther's teachings]“Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less tochange than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and theimpetus to the mightiest upheavals on this earth has at all timesconsisted less in a scientific knowledge dominating the masses thanin a fanaticism which inspired them and sometimes in a hysteria whichdrove them forward.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in thisworld lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which,fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes itswill against all others.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiationsfor compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancientworld, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting forits own doctrine.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“All in all, this whole period of winter 1919-20 was a singlestruggle to strengthen confidence in the victorious might of theyoung movement and raise it to that fanaticism of faith which canmove mountains.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakablestupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin thefight for the ‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]“Of course, even the general designation ‘religious’ includes variousbasic ideas or convictions, for example, the indestructibility of thesoul, the eternity of its existence, the existence of a higher being,etc. But all these ideas, regardless of how convincing they may befor the individual, are submitted to the critical examination of thisindividual and hence to a fluctuating affirmation or negation untilemotional divination or knowledge assumes the binding force ofapodictic faith. This, above all, is the fighting factor which makesa breach and opens the way for the recognition of basic religiousviews.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]“Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lordcommits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle andcontributes to the expulsion from paradise.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]“A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from thelevel of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it theconsecration of an institution which is called upon to produce imagesof the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man inthis world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroeswith missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly,but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that whereparents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity ona poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother,than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bringunhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundredsand hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy,obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church.Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction isreplaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant andcontinuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the AlmightyCreator beings such as He Himself created?”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“For the greatest revolutionary changes on this earth would not havebeen thinkable if their motive force, instead of fanatical, yes,hysterical passion, had been merely the bourgeois virtues of law andorder.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“It doesn’t dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this ispositively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy tokeep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made alawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sinagainst the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings bythe hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate inthe present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs aretrained for intellectual professions.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life,but the time will come when man will again bow down before a highergod.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“Christianity could not content itself with building up its ownaltar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of theheathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could itsapodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolutepresupposition.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]“For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness ofa doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constantchanges in its outward structure? …Here, too, we can learn by theexample of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and inpart quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science andresearch, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as onelittle syllable of its dogmas… it is only such dogmas which lend tothe whole body the character of a faith.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each inhis own denomination, of making people stop just talkingsuperficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and notlet God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form,their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work isdeclaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 10]“In the ranks of the movement [National Socialist movement], the mostdevout Protestant could sit beside the most devout Catholic, withoutcoming into the slightest conflict with his religious convictions.The mighty common struggle which both carried on against thedestroyer of Aryan humanity had, on the contrary, taught themmutually to respect and esteem one another.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 10]“For this, to be sure, from the child’s primer down to the lastnewspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertisingpillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of thisone great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlorpatriots: ‘Lord, make us free!’ is transformed in the brain of thesmallest boy into the burning plea: ‘Almighty God, bless our armswhen the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge nowwhether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!’[Adolf Hitler's prayer, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 2 Chapter 13]“The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moralpurification of our public life, are creating and securing theconditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life”[Adolph Hitler, in a speech to the Reichstag on March 23, 1933]“ATHEIST HALL CONVERTEDBerlin Churches Establish Bureau to Win Back WorshippersWireless to the New York Times.BERLIN, May 13. – In Freethinkers Hall, which before the Naziresurgence was the national headquarters of the German FreethinkersLeague, the Berlin Protestant church authorities have opened a bureaufor advice to the public in church matters. Its chief object is towin back former churchgoers and assist those who have not previouslybelonged to any religious congregation in obtaining church membership.The German Freethinkers League, which was swept away by the nationalrevolution, was the largest of such organizations in Germany. It hadabout 500,000 members …”[New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 2, on Hitler's outlawing ofatheistic and freethinking groups in Germany in the Spring of 1933,after the Enabling Act authorizing Hitler to rule by decree]“I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of asleepwalker.”[Adolf Hitler, Speech, 15 March 1936, Munich, Germany.]“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremostduty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. Itwill preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nationhas been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of ournational morality, and the family as the basis of national life….”[Adolf Hitler, Berlin, February 1, 1933]“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledgethat I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroyChristianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christianspirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments inliterature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want toburn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our wholelife and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past …(few) years.”[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, OxfordUniversity Press, 1942), pg. 871-872]

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

His deficiencies pretty much lost the war for him as he held back some of his genius henchmen while he chased his faeires.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

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“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the AlmightyCreator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program thecharacter of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church hasnever allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundredyears since it was formulated, but every suggestion for itsamendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has beenrejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can bebuilt up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory orirreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so longas logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as afighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surroundedby a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were andsummoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatestnot as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christianand as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lordat last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of theTemple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fightagainst the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, withdeepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the factthat it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. Asa Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I havethe duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there isanything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it isthe distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a dutyto my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work andwork and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have onlyfor their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morningand see these men standing in their queues and look into theirpinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a verydevil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord twothousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor peopleare plundered and exposed.”[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering apolitical opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism onhis personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quotedin Freethought Today April 1990]“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will ofthe Almighty Creator.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of thefatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the missionassigned to it by the Creator.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without thepractical existence of a religious belief.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of hisestimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drovethose enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while theenemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will bewavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest ina fanatical outlook.”[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemnsplendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, theabbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to myfather, the highest and most desirable ideal.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1]“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but fromtime to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. Atall events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the manand the movement, which in those days guided Vienna’s destinies: Dr.Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 2]“…the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party… was toassume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the peoplefulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. WhetherProtestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularlyat the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a singleholy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned tohis own heaven.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as longas these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals andethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with thescheming of political parties.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions ofhis people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to bein politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes![Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement waswanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct andwell-planned.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scalepropaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychologicalinstincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]“If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been rankedamong the great minds of our people.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader ofthe Christian Social movement]“Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormyenthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from anoverflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permittedto live at this time.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]“I had so often sung ‘Deutschland u:ber Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ atthe top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act ofgrace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of theeternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the veryfirst prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can alwaysand only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violencewhich does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be waveringand uncertain.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]“I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true artwhich has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Onlythe Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger’s time achieveda certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of itssuccess.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 6]“Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens alongthe endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s gracesmiled on His ungrateful children.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on WorldWar I]“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as itcontinues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, thefounders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men ofthis earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only theweak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to auniversal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all othergreat reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands MartinLuther as well as Richard Wagner.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, generalviews among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. Thefirst prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things isthe facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. Inlate marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institutionwhich, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace tohumanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being whowith his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against thepoisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is likea hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill offare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you willhardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestationsof our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,and cultural idea.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the CulturalWarfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not foughtto its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years fromnow. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want toprofane the Almighty.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa inorder to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which canboast but very modest success compared to the advance of theMohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they losemillions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to allreligious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; preciselyfor the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moralattitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful fromthe standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a usefulreplacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrineand faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditionalauthority of the content of this faith is the foundation of allefficacy.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]“Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess areligious institution, if for no other reason because he lacksidealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutelyforeign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imaginedwhich lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form.Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter,but only for a practical and profitable life in this world.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]“The best characterization is provided by the product of thisreligious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world,and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as hisnature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of thenew doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitudetoward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip todrive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, whothen as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for hisbusiness existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, whileour present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging forJewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindleswith atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]“….the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evilassumes the living shape of the Jew.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11, precisely echoingMartin Luther's teachings]“Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less tochange than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and theimpetus to the mightiest upheavals on this earth has at all timesconsisted less in a scientific knowledge dominating the masses thanin a fanaticism which inspired them and sometimes in a hysteria whichdrove them forward.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in thisworld lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which,fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes itswill against all others.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiationsfor compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancientworld, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting forits own doctrine.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“All in all, this whole period of winter 1919-20 was a singlestruggle to strengthen confidence in the victorious might of theyoung movement and raise it to that fanaticism of faith which canmove mountains.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]“Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakablestupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin thefight for the ‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]“Of course, even the general designation ‘religious’ includes variousbasic ideas or convictions, for example, the indestructibility of thesoul, the eternity of its existence, the existence of a higher being,etc. But all these ideas, regardless of how convincing they may befor the individual, are submitted to the critical examination of thisindividual and hence to a fluctuating affirmation or negation untilemotional divination or knowledge assumes the binding force ofapodictic faith. This, above all, is the fighting factor which makesa breach and opens the way for the recognition of basic religiousviews.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]“Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lordcommits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle andcontributes to the expulsion from paradise.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 1]“A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from thelevel of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it theconsecration of an institution which is called upon to produce imagesof the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man inthis world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroeswith missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly,but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that whereparents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity ona poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother,than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bringunhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundredsand hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy,obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church.Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction isreplaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant andcontinuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the AlmightyCreator beings such as He Himself created?”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“For the greatest revolutionary changes on this earth would not havebeen thinkable if their motive force, instead of fanatical, yes,hysterical passion, had been merely the bourgeois virtues of law andorder.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“It doesn’t dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this ispositively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy tokeep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made alawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sinagainst the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings bythe hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate inthe present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs aretrained for intellectual professions.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life,but the time will come when man will again bow down before a highergod.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 2]“Christianity could not content itself with building up its ownaltar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of theheathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could itsapodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolutepresupposition.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]“For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness ofa doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constantchanges in its outward structure? …Here, too, we can learn by theexample of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and inpart quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science andresearch, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as onelittle syllable of its dogmas… it is only such dogmas which lend tothe whole body the character of a faith.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each inhis own denomination, of making people stop just talkingsuperficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and notlet God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form,their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work isdeclaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 10]“In the ranks of the movement [National Socialist movement], the mostdevout Protestant could sit beside the most devout Catholic, withoutcoming into the slightest conflict with his religious convictions.The mighty common struggle which both carried on against thedestroyer of Aryan humanity had, on the contrary, taught themmutually to respect and esteem one another.”[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 10]“For this, to be sure, from the child’s primer down to the lastnewspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertisingpillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of thisone great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlorpatriots: ‘Lord, make us free!’ is transformed in the brain of thesmallest boy into the burning plea: ‘Almighty God, bless our armswhen the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge nowwhether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!’[Adolf Hitler's prayer, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 2 Chapter 13]“The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moralpurification of our public life, are creating and securing theconditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life”[Adolph Hitler, in a speech to the Reichstag on March 23, 1933]“ATHEIST HALL CONVERTEDBerlin Churches Establish Bureau to Win Back WorshippersWireless to the New York Times.BERLIN, May 13. – In Freethinkers Hall, which before the Naziresurgence was the national headquarters of the German FreethinkersLeague, the Berlin Protestant church authorities have opened a bureaufor advice to the public in church matters. Its chief object is towin back former churchgoers and assist those who have not previouslybelonged to any religious congregation in obtaining church membership.The German Freethinkers League, which was swept away by the nationalrevolution, was the largest of such organizations in Germany. It hadabout 500,000 members …”[New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 2, on Hitler's outlawing ofatheistic and freethinking groups in Germany in the Spring of 1933,after the Enabling Act authorizing Hitler to rule by decree]“I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of asleepwalker.”[Adolf Hitler, Speech, 15 March 1936, Munich, Germany.]“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremostduty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. Itwill preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nationhas been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of ournational morality, and the family as the basis of national life….”[Adolf Hitler, Berlin, February 1, 1933]“Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country]… I pledgethat I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroyChristianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christianspirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments inliterature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want toburn out the *poison of immorality* which has entered into our wholelife and culture as a result of *liberal excess* during the past …(few) years.”[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, OxfordUniversity Press, 1942), pg. 871-872]
These are a bunch of examples of Hitler using Christianity politically. I don't think it proves or disproves anything regarding his own beliefs.

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Flying Spaghetti Monster, you've provided these quotes before, but you haven't bothered to study the history around them: Karl Luegar's Viennese Christian Social Party had nothing to do with Christianity, despite its name. It was an anti-Semitic political party around the turn of the century (Luegar was mayor of Vienna) which greatly influenced Hitler.

Most of the other quotes are innocuous at best, and they're an attempt to link Hitler to modern day Christian conservatives. But they have nothing in common. Again, the vast majority of the people that Hitler wanted to reach in his speeches and writings were Christian; therefore Hitler used Christian language. But he himself was not a religious Christian.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

Not smart? Where are you getting this? Perhaps the most brilliant political mind in history. He could lecture on central European history, for hours on end, off the cuff.

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Timmy and Hitler sitting in a tree,K-I-S-S, plus I-N-G,First comes love,Then comes danger,Then comes Hitler in Timmy's gas chamber.

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Because Hitler was responsible for so much horror people can't accept the fact that he wasn't "insane

Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

More like highjacked a political party than form one but you're right for the most part.

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I keep reading all these lies and misunderstandings about Adolf Hitler in nearly every political thread. So I decided it was important to set the record straight:

1. Hitler was not a religious Christian. (This is argued a lot by atheists and secularists.) Sometimes Hitler made references to God and Christianity for political purposes, but that's all it was. Though he came from a Catholic family (no Jewish ancestors, BTW!), there is no record of him having attended church on a regular basis (or even at all.) None of Hitler's actions or crimes were committed in the name of Christianity.

2. Hitler was not anti- Christian. (This is argued a lot by religious Christians.) The Third Reich heavily restricted both the Catholic and Lutheran churches, as institutions, but only in the same way that they restricted ALL previously independent institutions. One prominent member of the government, Alfred Rosenberg, was virulently anti-Christian, and he is often used as a source to prove this point, but none of his "recommendations" (having Mein Kampf replace the Bible, and a swastika replace the Cross, etc.), were ever implemented by the state. Christians were free to worship and did so throughout the 12 years the Nazis were in power.

3. Hitler did not seize guns. (This is argued by the NRA and its supporters.) In fact, private gun ownership actually increased during the Third Reich as restrictions were lifted which had been placed on gun owners during the Weimar regime. It is true that Jews were restricted from owning guns, but this did not occur until several years after the Nuremberg laws (expelling Jews from German social life) were already in place, and it was largely for show, since extremely few of Germany's Jews were armed in the first place.

4. Hitler was not a Darwinist. Some historians have made the somewhat questionable argument that Hitler was a "social Darwinist", though Hitler himself never used this term, nor does he ever refer to Darwin or evolution in any way. Intelligent Design proponents have turned this into an argument that Hitler was a result of teaching evolution; in his film promoting Intelligent Design, Ben Stein actually visits Auschwitz as a warning as to what will happen if evolution is taught. In point of fact, Darwin's works were banned in Nazi Germany and The Origin of the Species was one of the books publicly burned by Goebbels in 1933.

5. Hitler was not a socialist. Despite the name, National Socialism had very little socialism, and what it did have was thrown out when Hitler rose to power. It is true that the Nazis, like Socialists, were collectivist in nature, but they focused on race rather than class as their distinction. The Nazis were an extreme right-wing, not left-wing movement.

Hope that helps.

God, when are you going to stop defending this guy?

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.
He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school. There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.
Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.
Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.
Not smart? Where are you getting this? Perhaps the most brilliant political mind in history. He could lecture on central European history, for hours on end, off the cuff.
But he didn't get into art school!!

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

Not smart? Where are you getting this? Perhaps the most brilliant political mind in history. He could lecture on central European history, for hours on end, off the cuff.

Knowing a lot about one subject doesn't necessarily make a person smart. More to the point, why are we even having a discussion about Hitler? The guy tried to take over the world, failed miserably, managed to make almost everyone hate him (including those in his own political party before the war even got started), and to this day remains an almost universally reviled figure.

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timschochet, on 29 Apr 2013 - 13:11, said:3. Hitler did not seize guns. (This is argued by the NRA and its supporters.) In fact, private gun ownership actually increased during the Third Reich as restrictions were lifted which had been placed on gun owners during the Weimar regime. It is true that Jews were restricted from owning guns, but this did not occur until several years after the Nuremberg laws (expelling Jews from German social life) were already in place, and it was largely for show, since extremely few of Germany's Jews were armed in the first place.

So he didn't seize guns (or restrict gun ownership)...until he did?On a side note, I think Hitler would have loved internet cat videos just like the rest of us. Edited by Andy Dufresne

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

This post is all kinds of wrong.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

This post is all kinds of wrong.

Then why did his own party try several times to kill him?

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.

Not smart? Where are you getting this? Perhaps the most brilliant political mind in history. He could lecture on central European history, for hours on end, off the cuff.

Knowing a lot about one subject doesn't necessarily make a person smart. More to the point, why are we even having a discussion about Hitler? The guy tried to take over the world, failed miserably, managed to make almost everyone hate him (including those in his own political party before the war even got started), and to this day remains an almost universally reviled figure.

:lmao: Where are you getting your history? The back of a cerel box?

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.

He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school.

There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.

Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.

Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.

Do you also consider George Wallace a political genius? Because all either did was key on racial hatred to establish themselves and their views. Seems pretty easy to do and not really the mark of a genius.

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.
He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school. There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.
Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.
Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.
Not smart? Where are you getting this? Perhaps the most brilliant political mind in history. He could lecture on central European history, for hours on end, off the cuff.
Knowing a lot about one subject doesn't necessarily make a person smart. More to the point, why are we even having a discussion about Hitler? The guy tried to take over the world, failed miserably, managed to make almost everyone hate him (including those in his own political party before the war even got started), and to this day remains an almost universally reviled figure.
:lmao: Where are you getting your history? The back of a cerel box?
Are you arguing that he succeeded,or that he wasn't trying to take over 'the whole world'?

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Many people think Hitler was some sort of evil genius. The guy was almost literally mentally deficient.

This is false as well. Hitler was certainly evil IMO, and he was a political genius; one of the most extraordinary men who ever lived. He was also the most effective public speaker in history.
He failed getting into an art college. Twice. The guy who painted the Virgin Mary with dung got into art school. There were many plots to kill him and put someone in who wasn't a moron, but the Russians decided to put a stop to all those shenanigans.
Is this is a serious post? Many geniuses fail at tests. Einstein, Churchill, Edison, Henry Ford all had grave academic failures in their lives.Adolf Hitler was a political genius bar none. He rose from nothing; no money, no background, no political history, formed his own political party and took over a major country and then took over half the world, mainly solely on the force of his personality.
Hitler's political party succeeded in spite of himself. The Nazi party won in 1933 with just over 43 percent of the popular vote. He was a charismatic speaker, but let's not make him out to be some type of intelligent person. The guy was not smart, but he was extremely lucky.
Not smart? Where are you getting this? Perhaps the most brilliant political mind in history. He could lecture on central European history, for hours on end, off the cuff.
Knowing a lot about one subject doesn't necessarily make a person smart. More to the point, why are we even having a discussion about Hitler? The guy tried to take over the world, failed miserably, managed to make almost everyone hate him (including those in his own political party before the war even got started), and to this day remains an almost universally reviled figure.
:lmao: Where are you getting your history? The back of a cerel box?
Are you arguing that he succeeded,or that he wasn't trying to take over 'the whole world'?

He did takeover all of Europe, a big chunk of Asia and the northern part of Africa for four years.

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