Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think the gap between 10-16 or so is none. I've got Reed in that mix. Maybe 10 is too high, but I'd feel good with him as my TE2. I don't think he's had his best stretch yet.
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Jordan Reed - TE - SF (1 Viewer)
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I flexed him tonight due to the match-up and he looks damn good so far.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Yeah he definitely passes the eyeball test. The fact that he can't block for #### will likely limit his snaps but I'm really hoping he ends up as the #2 option since as I said that's still very much up in the air.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Reed has 5 looks so far, good for second most (Garcon 7).
With Ware out, it looks like WAS feels more comfortable leaving Reed on the field. I believe he's seen every snap since.
It also obviously helps that they're in catch-up mode again.
With Ware out, it looks like WAS feels more comfortable leaving Reed on the field. I believe he's seen every snap since.
It also obviously helps that they're in catch-up mode again.
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Adam Harstad
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For what it's worth, Reed's per-game numbers quietly project out to 68/650 over 16 games. If they hold up (and, obviously, it's VEEEEEERY early and there's a good chance that they won't), Reed will become just the seventh rookie tight end in the last 30 years to average 40 receiving yards per game. He'd be the third rookie TE over that span with 4+ receptions per game, joining Jeremy Shockey and Keith Jackson.
In PPR leagues, Reed is about 2 points behind Tyler Eifert for the season, despite Eifert having played two more games.
In PPR leagues, Reed is about 2 points behind Tyler Eifert for the season, despite Eifert having played two more games.
Rolling_akg
Footballguy
JackReacher
Footballguy
And if RG3 stops throwing only to Garcon
RGIII HTTR
Footballguy
Uhh, that won't happen. I would say if you have Reed in a Dynasty League...you are golden. He will be a prolific part of the 'Skins offense for sure. They didn't expect him to be contributing already as it is and he's made Fred Davis expendable overnight.
lardonastick
Footballguy
I'm a fan of Reed, and love having a young TE attached to a young, elite QB.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
How do y'all value him compared to Heath Miller and Charles Clay?
Rushmore
Footballguy
Bobbyn2022
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
If WAS ever legitimately gets and holds a lead, I sadly don't like how that'd project for Reed. When WAS does what they want to do (run), Paulsen will be on the field plenty as the superior run blocker.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
My comp is on the fritz but I believe this blurb is still legible. The way Reed was underutilized in the second half was criminal, as he looked to be wide open on several throws (especially one down the seem where RG3 forced it to Hankerson instead. This dude is legit and were not the only ones who see this. I'm excited to see what he can do for the ROS.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
It's likely they could in the future if Reed could even marginally improve on his blocking (think Julius Thomas who has made long strides in that department as the season has progressed). I do however remember (correct me if I'm wrong) that Davis came in on some 2 TE sets over Reed.
Adam Harstad
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In dynasty? Higher. More specifically, Reed > Clay > Miller.
In redraft? Lower. More specifically, Miller > Clay > Reed.
Adam Harstad
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I don't know if I'd agree with that. I'm seeing a lot of random variation in Thomas' blocking performance, but no clear upward trend. His blocking against Jacksonville was probably the worst of the season so far. You can definitely say that Julius is a WILLING blocker, which counts for a lot, but he's still not particularly effective at it midway through his 3rd season in the NFL.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I felt as if there was definite improvement as the first couple weeks played out and the train starting really gaining momentum. Admittedly, I didn't see very much of the game vs. JAC but I'll take your word for it.
From what I saw last week however, JT seems to be a better blocker than Reed at the very least.
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Adam Harstad
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From what I've seen so far, Andre Reed is probably a better blocker than Jordan Reed. And I don't mean Andre Reed in his prime, I mean Andre Reed right this very moment, hasn't played in more than a decade.
With that said, Reed can certainly improve, but I hope he doesn't improve too much. Vernon Davis would have much better career stats if he was a worse blocker, because his team wouldn't be tempted to keep him in to protect nearly as much. I hope Reed gets just good enough at blocking to work his way onto the field as much as possible, but not so good that Washington actually considers taking him out of pass patterns. Not that PFF is the be-all, end-all, but Julius Thomas' game-by-game grades in run blocking are -0.4, -1.4, +0.6, -1.4, -2.4, -2.9. His pass-blocking grades are neutral (+1.4 for the season), but they're also based on a pretty small sample size. Thomas plays every snap, but over the last four week's he's only stayed in on pass protection about 30 total times. Denver knows that, as much of a mismatch as Thomas is in the passing game and as poor of a blocker as he is, keeping him in to block would be a gross misuse of resources. If Peyton's dropping back to pass, you can bet Julius Thomas is out in the pattern somewhere.
I really view that as the best case scenario for Reed. Good enough as a receiver to get on the field for every snap, bad enough as a blocker to spend most of his day running routes.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
Jordan Reed ended up playing 55 snaps, 71% of the Skins' offensive snaps. He played the second most snaps of any skill player behind only Garcon, a few more than Moss and Hankerson. Of course with Wash playing from behind, anomalies like Helu playing more than AMorris also occurred.
Next up are the Bears and then a game at Denver, so Washington may be behind some more.
Next up are the Bears and then a game at Denver, so Washington may be behind some more.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Hello fellas. I've been spot starting him a bit after scooping him to eventually replace Gonzalez. The future might be sooner than expected though. He appears to be the second best receiver on this team.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
Practically broke the bank to get this guy off waivers in a dynasty TE-premium league ($180/500). Here we go!
FUBAR
Footballguy
Love those two matchups for Reed. Starting in every league I have him.
Unless Gronk plays.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
I am all in with Reed this week.
Feed him the ball! Garcon was not making it happen in the second half last week.
Feed him the ball! Garcon was not making it happen in the second half last week.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Starting him in dynasty - more out of desperation than confidence. Snap counts looking good. Should have a pretty high floor.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
FWI, TEs vs. CHI..
Eifert and Gresham - 10/82/0
Rudolph - 3/42/1
Miller - 3/35/0 (wasn't 100%, combined with David Johnson 5/86/0)
Grew - 7/52/0
Jimmy Graham - 10/135/0
Giants TEs did #### vs. CHI
It's not the best match-up ever but in leagues like ffpc (where you get 1.5PPR for TEs) I think he'll make for a pretty good start this week. He looked so damn good last week I really want to see more designed plays for him.
Eifert and Gresham - 10/82/0
Rudolph - 3/42/1
Miller - 3/35/0 (wasn't 100%, combined with David Johnson 5/86/0)
Grew - 7/52/0
Jimmy Graham - 10/135/0
Giants TEs did #### vs. CHI
It's not the best match-up ever but in leagues like ffpc (where you get 1.5PPR for TEs) I think he'll make for a pretty good start this week. He looked so damn good last week I really want to see more designed plays for him.
JackReacher
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Fred Davis a healthy scratch today...
karmarooster
Footballguy
Dude, I've been holding Fleener forever and would easily make that cut. In my mind, adding Reed pushed Fleener down to my TE3. If you're talking re-draft, Reed is the guy. If you're talking Dynasty, Reed is the guy. Fleener *could* develop, which is why I didn't cut him, but next year Dwayne Allen should be back... Fleener has made a mess out of this opportunity with Allen injured. Reed has already shown more potential in 6 games as a rookie than Fleener has shown in 1 season + 6 games. MAKE THE MOVE!
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Otis
Footballguy
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Was cant find the end zone. Hoping they feed it to Reed when they get deep.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Look at him go. 
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Tearing it up already!
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Two huge plays on the first drive. Obviously a big part of the gameplan!
