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Jordan Reed - TE - SF (5 Viewers)
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Stompin' Tom Connors
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OK then. So even though AZ shuts down TEs, Davis's volume/role obviously increases. Trying to see whether this is a good arbitrage opportunity to leverage the potential output from this increased volume with Davis (and it's potential higher ceiling) than other options on the wire for streaming like Brate (consistent floor but lower ceiling) or guys that can be boom/bust versus getting targets like Vance McDonald or Hooper.
Is the AZ D so stout against TEs that it limits Davis's ability to be a TE1 this week compared to other options?
Kwai Chang Caine
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Sebowski
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A lot of Davis' big plays this year are when they're both on the field. Reed draws all the attention and Davis slips open.
Jed
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dgreen
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Seriously.
Schefter tweets what we already know (unlikely to play) and someone posts that he said he's "OUT"?
Dnp today. So are they really going to try and shoot him up with pain meds gameday and use him in passing situations... Or will they just designated him out. Would be nice for those of us with ir slots it he got out designation today. Even if active I can't see any way he is startable this week.
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Per Schedrer Friday:
Washington TE Jordan Reed officially out Sunday vs Arizona.
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/804762401287630849
Washington TE Jordan Reed officially out Sunday vs Arizona.
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/804762401287630849
Stompin' Tom Connors
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Could be if you are looking at plays that go over 20 yards or however you are defining "big plays" but seems like Davis does benefit from being out there when Reed is gone.
Look at the two games when Reed was out (WK 6 and 7). 4 targets, 2 receptions, 50 yards, 1 TD; 6 targets, 6 receptions, 79 yards, 0 TD.
Compare that to the previous 3 game average of 1.6 targets, 1.3 receptions, 7.6 yards, and 0 TDs.
To your point, Week 2 looks like Davis and Reed had a good combo day, with Davis 5/5 for 51 and Reed with 5/7 for 70. Same with Week 8 (5/5 for 93 for Davis, 9/13 for 99 and a touch for Reed).
But Davis seems able to perform with or without Reed on the field.
I can't shake wanting to play him, even with the uphill climb versus the ARI D. Brain tells me to go with Vance McDonald. Gut tells me Davis could be key in this game with Reed on the bench.
considering he wasnt even close to practicing or playing last week i'd say this week feels to be highly unlikely he'll play. i cant recall too many situations where a injured player had 3 DP's the week prior and was able to play the following weeks game (for non concussion injuries). My gut tells me week 15 is iffy at best too. i still have confidence vernon davis will be a decent play while he's on the mend
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Jed
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kutta
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SameSongNDance
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Him merely being on the field gives WAS a huge boost, it doesn't matter if he only has one functioning shoulder. I think he plays.
lardonastick
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Me too. Reed, Gronk, Sims, and Higbee are my options.Keith1 said:
Kwai Chang Caine
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They're playing Eagles man. I don't know if you've watched them lately but they have no one to contain him. My worry is if Washington gets a commanding lead, he will sit.Keith1 said:
ConnSKINS26
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We don't really do commanding leads. This will most likely be a get-right game for Wentz, the defense is awful
Keith1
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Jordan Reed (shoulder) said he expects to play Week 14 against the Eagles.
We're not sure what to make of all this as ESPN's John Keim said Reed looked to be in "obvious pain" at Thursday's practice. Despite what Keim saw, Reed claims to have his full range of motion back and coach Jay Gruden said he "looked pretty good" on Thursday. This is shaping up as a classic game-time decision. Fortunately the Redskins play at 1 PM ET this week, so we'll know his status relatively early.
Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
Dec 8 - 3:09 PM
We're not sure what to make of all this as ESPN's John Keim said Reed looked to be in "obvious pain" at Thursday's practice. Despite what Keim saw, Reed claims to have his full range of motion back and coach Jay Gruden said he "looked pretty good" on Thursday. This is shaping up as a classic game-time decision. Fortunately the Redskins play at 1 PM ET this week, so we'll know his status relatively early.
Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
Dec 8 - 3:09 PM
ConnSKINS26
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Reed catching a TD over a safety in practice today...don't see any range of motion issues here, seems its 100% pain tolerance:
https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/806928531733250048
https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/806928531733250048
Wasn't a TD though as he didn't complete the catch, so that even further clouds his outlook this week.
kutta
Footballguy
I disagree. He got both feet down with the ball. If it's knocked out of his hands, that's fine. He wasn't going to the ground so he didn't need to hang onto it any longer.
Upon further review, he was bobbling the ball before it was knocked from his hands. No clear possession is the ruling. Your overturn was overturned.
kutta
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Hmm. I might see a slight bobble, but it was called a TD on the field and there's not enough evidence to overturn it. The call on the field STANDS.
Seriously I saw that video a few hours ago and was going to post it but ran out of time and I was going to comment at the time his range of motion looked solid but he did not complete the catch.
Anyway I think he's still in pain but more so in practice than he will be in the game since I think he'll get medicated up for the game and I'd be pretty surprised if he was out this week. My main concern was if he had range of motion to be effective that video was awfully encouraging, even if he did not complete the catch.
Well then what criteria would you use? If he can't complete a TD in practice, then how can you expect him to in a game?
Steeler
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His range or motion looked real good like others have said - I would use that, The fact that the DB knocked the ball out of his hands after he exhibited everything you want to see in a WR/TE is irrelevant.Well then what criteria would you use? If he can't complete a TD in practice, then how can you expect him to in a game?
Jed
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kutta
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mr roboto
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Tommy Collins
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Thu, Dec 8 at 2:59pm
Reed (shoulder) was a limited practice participant Thursday. Afterward, head coach Jay Gruden said Reed "looked good today."
Analysis: In the early stages of practice, Reed exhibited discomfort, as evidenced by catching a pass down the right seam using just his right arm, according to John Keim of ESPN.com. As the session progressed, though, Reed looked like himself on a leaping reception with both hands in the back left corner of the end zone. Although he appears destined to be questionable for Sunday's game in Philadelphia, he may have approached the point where the medical and training staffs can help him combat the pain in his left shoulder.
by Rotowire.com
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Sunday Kickoff
Temperature: 34f.
Feels Like: 32f.
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It doesn't seem like it will be too cold, but the discomfort still bothers me. What happens when he takes a hit or lands on it?
Reed (shoulder) was a limited practice participant Thursday. Afterward, head coach Jay Gruden said Reed "looked good today."
Analysis: In the early stages of practice, Reed exhibited discomfort, as evidenced by catching a pass down the right seam using just his right arm, according to John Keim of ESPN.com. As the session progressed, though, Reed looked like himself on a leaping reception with both hands in the back left corner of the end zone. Although he appears destined to be questionable for Sunday's game in Philadelphia, he may have approached the point where the medical and training staffs can help him combat the pain in his left shoulder.
by Rotowire.com
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Sunday Kickoff
Temperature: 34f.
Feels Like: 32f.
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It doesn't seem like it will be too cold, but the discomfort still bothers me. What happens when he takes a hit or lands on it?
He's going to be shot up. And I'd gather he gets shot up prior to every game for the rest of the season.
Tommy Collins
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Jed
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Are you worried about him not playing, or being ineffective?
He's playing and he's getting shot up. The only question is will he be limited. My guess is no when adrenaline and pain meds kick in with a must win.
As was alluded to earlier he'll get pain meds for the game he's not getting for practice so the pain tolerance issue will arguable be easier to deal with in the actual game than practice.
I think his snap count will be scaled back a bit but I don't worry about him being a decoy. I'd guess they actually scale back his blocking duties more than anything else.
I'm starting him with confidence.
I think his snap count will be scaled back a bit but I don't worry about him being a decoy. I'd guess they actually scale back his blocking duties more than anything else.
I'm starting him with confidence.
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Where's the line for starting him? Do you start him over green? Over walker? I think I lean towards benching if you have another solid but not great option
