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Redskins coach Jay Gruden said the plan as of now will be to play TE Jordan Reed Vs. Chicago. Reed's injured left shoulder clearly bothered him Monday night before his ejection for fighting. But Gruden said if after talking to Reed they feel it's holding him back too much then he might sit.

(Please sit please sit please sit.)

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6 hours ago, Rookie_Whisperer said:

He was a mess and the ejection was almost a cry for help to get him off the field.

I half wondered this myself.  I'm honestly not sure what value he adds out there.  After a couple series it becomes fairly evident he's just a decoy.

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3 hours ago, jmo87usc said:

I'm curious how you made out.  If it's ppr, I feel bad for you.  If not, I feel bad for your opponent.  

 

PPR....sigh

I lost by less than two points...knew it was over when Reed got ejected, but didn't actually lose until one of Thompson's last garbage time catches, so I had hope till the very end. 

Crushing.

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3 hours ago, massraider said:

He won't be on my team next year I don't think, partly because of his durability concerns, but mainly because I can't take him seriously after his boxing performance.  

Punched a guy's helmet. :lmao:

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Redskins coach Jay Gruden said the plan right now is for Jordan Reed to play Week 16 against the Bears.

 

Gruden did say the plan could change later in the week if the team decides the injury is holding him back too much. That was clearly the case on Monday night before Reed was ejected, and it is fair to question why Reed has been on the field at all the last two games. Even if he suits up, Reed will not be worth using in the fantasy finals.
 
 
Source: ESPN 
Dec 20 - 8:27 PM

 

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Every single "expert" currently has Reed ranked in or near the top 10 at the position with projections as if he would make a significant impact.

Mind boggling.

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22 minutes ago, kyoun1e said:

Every single "expert" currently has Reed ranked in or near the top 10 at the position with projections as if he would make a significant impact.

Mind boggling.

100% agree. You could see the pain he was in last week - that isn't going to go away in 6 days. Plus, 19 snaps last week? What do these "experts" expect this week?

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5 minutes ago, buck naked said:

100% agree. You could see the pain he was in last week - that isn't going to go away in 6 days. Plus, 19 snaps last week? What do these "experts" expect this week?

Never blindly follow any expert.  They put their 2 cents in, but you have to analyze each player situation on your own roster.  I do view weekly composite rankings sorted by the top 5 most accurate "experts" on the season for each position, but it serves only as one guidepost to my final decisions.  There are times the experts are not factoring in variables in their rankings (injury status, is the player getting healthier or deteriorating due to usage and contact, how they looked-moved-caught last week, weather, team defensive matchup, health of opposing players, chemistry with QB or OC, tendencies playing at home vs away, Thursday game/short week, contract status, etc) or are clearly chasing last week's points and reflexively jump a guy up 10 spots based on one outing against a weak matchup where that player may have had an exploitable advantage.  It is entirely possible that you know more than these experts do and your instincts are better than theirs' are, especially players you follow closely.  We all make bad calls on players but the experts who are making money writing about these things tend to not accept their mistakes very quickly because they hold too tightly to a call they've made.  I tend to think more three dimensionally and typically my instincts and ability to gauge exploitable matchups are better than many of theirs, particularly when judging potential outputs on my own rosters.  Trust your instincts.

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Listed as questionable.

Really Gruden?

Isn't questionable the new probable?

And this after the guy looked like he was shot on the field after getting a little bump.

If Reed doesn't play a snap I hope they fine the crap out of Washington.

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On December 22, 2016 at 5:25 AM, kyoun1e said:

Every single "expert" currently has Reed ranked in or near the top 10 at the position with projections as if he would make a significant impact.

Mind boggling.

They all give themselves the qualification: *assuming the player is healthy

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Was looking for a replacement for Green, guess I should stay away from Vernon Davis. Who the hell knows how this is going to end up with Reed, but like many, I think he continues to ail, and actually affects both Reed and Davis's fantasy prospects this weekend.

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According to CSN Mid-Atlantic's JP Finlay, Jordan Reed looked "dominant" at the first day of Redskins minicamp Tuesday.

Reed skipped OTAs, so this was really the first the team has seen of him since Week 17. Reed severely injured his shoulder on Thanksgiving last season, which probably played a key role in the Redskins missing the playoffs. He was never 100 percent the remainder of the way but was able to avoid surgery. Even with the addition of big-bodied Terrelle Pryor and return to health of Josh Doctson, the offense is still expected to primarily run through Reed.

Source: CSN Mid-Atlantic

Jun 13 - 9:49 PM

 

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On 12/24/2016 at 6:23 AM, Ghost Rider said:

Out today, per Schefter. 

Can we just add this post to the OP?

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14 hours ago, Faust said:

 

Here's the exact quote. Good news.

Jordan Reed looked dominant. Simply dominant. He looked great, smooth and like a serious difference maker for the Redskins. After a TD catch in the end zone (after a previous TD had been called back) Kirk Cousins shouted about Reed, "He's back baby! He's back!"

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2 hours ago, kutta said:

Here's the exact quote. Good news.

Jordan Reed looked dominant. Simply dominant. He looked great, smooth and like a serious difference maker for the Redskins. After a TD catch in the end zone (after a previous TD had been called back) Kirk Cousins shouted about Reed, "He's back baby! He's back!"

He's back until he isn't.

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Who cares. You know how easy it is to find a replacement low-end TE1 for when he's injured? When he's healthy he's the biggest difference-maker other than Gronk.

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1 hour ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Who cares. You know how easy it is to find a replacement low-end TE1 for when he's injured? When he's healthy he's the biggest difference-maker other than Gronk.

Not all leagues have the same rules. It's not easy in the leagues i'm in.

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2 hours ago, Tool said:

Not all leagues have the same rules. It's not easy in the leagues i'm in.

If your league starts two TE or is 16 teams with large rosters I could see some scarcity in good quality TE being available on the waiver wire. However because of the greater starting requirements at the TE position the baseline performance will also be much lower, which makes Reed even more valuable in that format.

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The story for Reed is the same as it always is, he's a top 5 TE with overall TE1 upside (especially in PPR) when he's on the field. Just make sure you have another startable TE option behind Reed for when he inevitably misses time. I still think it's probably cheaper in dynasty leagues to own Reed with a lower priced backup that you can spot start than it is to buy a Gronk/Kelce type of TE.

Reed was the #1 PPR TE in PPG in each of the past two seasons (all 17 weeks, looking at standard PPR stats on MFL). These PPG stats can be skewed a bit because of player totals being lowered because of games that they played but really weren't used. Gronk had 3 games where he played but only received 1-2 targets, which obviously lowers his PPG average. Reed had a couple of similar games in weeks 14/15 too.

The point though, is that Reed is arguably one of the 2 biggest difference makers at the TE position. At the TE position specifically, I only care about the top 2-4 TEs that provide an advantage over the rest of the position. Other than that, they're all about the same to me. So I'm much more willing to gamble on risky elite production at TE than I am at other positions. I'll roll Reed out with a smile on my face for as many games as he plays, and I'll just cross my fingers that the total is closer to 16 than it is to 8.

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8 hours ago, Biabreakable said:

If your league starts two TE or is 16 teams with large rosters I could see some scarcity in good quality TE being available on the waiver wire. However because of the greater starting requirements at the TE position the baseline performance will also be much lower, which makes Reed even more valuable in that format.

It also means he's more expensive in those formats.  And when he's out, it's more penalizing because you paid so much more to get him, and there are fewer good options available to replace him that you'll pay more for them too.  Big double whammy.

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Kirk Cousins has a 121.4 quarterback rating when targeting Jordan Reed over the past two seasons.

That's on 201 attempts. Even on a small-sample size, that's a jaw-dropping number. Speaking earlier this offseason, coach Jay Gruden said "the offense runs through" Reed. Even with his health an ever-present question, Reed is an excellent pick at his current 48.4 ADP.

Source: ESPN.com

Jul 25 - 4:54 PM

 

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I love Jordan Reed but man already with this guy. Put on PUP list to start camp with reason now provided as a strained big toe.

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Jordan Reed saw a specialist for his toe injury on Wednesday, and is without a timetable for a return.

The doctor's visit was a "follow up." Coach Jay Gruden said Reed was day to day, but intimated it was more week to week. It's not exactly good news after the 'Skins insisted last week that the issue was not serious. Reed is beginning to appear likely to miss preseason games. Ever the injury risk, the Redskins will not rush Reed's return.

Source: Redskins on Twitter 

Aug 1 - 2:50 PM

 

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He'll be fine when the season starts. He just doesn't want to practice. I'm not buying his toe will cost him any time when it matters.

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Jordan Reed's toe injury has been bothering him since last season.

Reed's toe was apparently an issue "all last year and into the offseason." He said it was beginning to feel better until he underwent a stem-cell treatment following minicamp. "That kind of flared it up a bit on me," Reed said. "Now I'm just letting it calm down before I get out there." Speaking about his recovery timeline, Reed said he's "just gotta take my time, let it heal and strengthen up, then get back out there." It wouldn't be surprising if Reed was held out for the entire preseason.

Source: Richmond Times-Dispatch 

Aug 3 - 7:01 PM

 

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Jordan Reed (toe) had a special orthotics made for his left cleat.

Dealing with a toe injury since last year, Reed will try out the new footwear for the next couple of days to see if it helps. Coach Jay Gruden said the team will reevaluate the situation after their second preseason game next weekend, strongly suggesting Reed will be sidelined until at least then. It remains likely the tight end is back on the field before Week 1, but this issue along with his injury history makes Reed a risky investment in the fifth round.

Source: ESPN

Aug 12 - 1:51 PM

 

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On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 9:33 PM, Slider said:

He'll be fine when the season starts. He just doesn't want to practice. I'm not buying his toe will cost him any time when it matters.

man o man.... I was hopinh in snag him ppr leagues after Kelce goes off the board....toe injuries are no joke. And Reed isn't the picture of health anyway

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Sliding into the third in some ffpc drafts which is ridiculous.   The toe is presenting some nice value. 

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8 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

Sliding into the third in some ffpc drafts which is ridiculous.   The toe is presenting some nice value. 

Forgive my ignorance, I haven't even ran a mock. Sliding up or down?

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18 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

Sliding into the third in some ffpc drafts which is ridiculous.   The toe is presenting some nice value. 

Third TE or third round? I like the guy but don't think I'd take him in the 3rd. I just took him 8.02 in a 10 team dynasty start up. (2qb, but can flex a te)

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15 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

Third TE or third round? I like the guy but don't think I'd take him in the 3rd. I just took him 8.02 in a 10 team dynasty start up. (2qb, but can flex a te)

Not sure what Trip  meant but both are true, he's  going in third round and as the third TE in FFPC drafts so both are true.

And I agree with Trip, that is good value and I'm all over it at that price.

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52 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

Sliding into the third in some ffpc drafts which is ridiculous.   The toe is presenting some nice value. 

Why is it hard to believe?  He's had one good year in his career.  He can't stay healthy, and already has a nagging injury before the season has started.  If healthy, I agree he's a top 2 TE with Gronk ( who also can't stay healthy ).  

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On 2017-08-12 at 7:38 PM, dschuler said:

Why is it hard to believe?  He's had one good year in his career.  He can't stay healthy, and already has a nagging injury before the season has started.  If healthy, I agree he's a top 2 TE with Gronk ( who also can't stay healthy ).  

He's a PPG stud, which is great until he doesn't play.

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On 8/12/2017 at 7:38 PM, dschuler said:

Why is it hard to believe?  He's had one good year in his career.  He can't stay healthy, and already has a nagging injury before the season has started.  If healthy, I agree he's a top 2 TE with Gronk ( who also can't stay healthy ).  

I understand what you're saying, but I personally wouldn't go that far (especially in 10 team and smaller leagues).  Reed was the #3 PPG TE in my league last year, and the #2 PPG TE the year before that (and I generally don't expect much from TEs their first two years in the league).  Anyway, last year he was the #3 PPG TE (behind Gronk and Kelce).  He fully missed 4 games.  Say you just started your backup TE those games and he got you 6 PPG in those games (which is reasonable in a 10 team or fewer league)- your TE position would have been right there with Jimmy Graham/Kyle Rudolph last year in the TE #3-5 range. 

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Jordan Reed (toe) practiced for the first time this summer on Wednesday.

Reed was activated from PUP over the weekend, and this was the Redskins' first practice since their second preseason game. As long as everything goes well for Reed, we could see him get a few snaps over the next two preseason contests. Washington's offense runs through Reed. He's an elite TE1.

Source: JP Finlay on Twitter 

Aug 23 - 1:27 PM

 

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 Well he's going on my bench in favor of Bennett.   Just so hard to bench a guy who can go for 100 yards and two touchdowns if he's on the field. 

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At this point drafting Jordan Reed is like paying the sticker price for a known lemon. 

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52 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

At this point drafting Jordan Reed is like paying the sticker price for a known lemon. 

1. Buy lemon

2. Eat lemon

3. ???

4. Profit

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I think he will be fine...until his next injury  

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0698551803444205439-4

During an interview with ESPN on Aug. 13, Redskins tight end Jordan Reed referenced having had a fracture in his toe. Reed said having wider cleats and orthotics helped. He has not missed a practice since coming off the PUP list.

John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer

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Jordan Reed left Sunday's Week 2 game against the Rams with a chest injury and is questionable to return.

Reed headed to the locker room about midway through the third quarter. He pulled in all six of his targets for 48 yards before exiting. Reed's absence will open up snaps for Vernon Davis at tight end.

Source: Washington Redskins on Twitter 

Sep 17 - 6:42 PM

 

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Speaking Wednesday, coach Jay Gruden said Jordan Reed (chest, toe) is "not healthy right now."

Reed didn't practice Wednesday as he deals with a chest injury. That's on top of a broken toe that he's been battling since summer. Reed has 11 catches for 84 yards on 14 targets through two games against a pair of tough opponents in the Eagles and Rams. It's unclear what Gruden's words mean for Reed's Week 3 status against the Raiders, but he'll be a TE1 if he's out there.

 

If Reed doesn't play, does that make Vernon Davis playable over guys like Watson, Clay, etc.?

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