True. I just wish it wasn’t Euron and it was more imaginative. He just pops up and massive shifts happen with no background at all. I would have rather Bronn led a team of mercs up there for a sneak attack like Ramsey did to screw up Stannis. It’s almost like they’ve created this Euron character to be an almost unstoppable force to even things out.
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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (6 Viewers)
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badmojo1006
Footballguy
Or Jon Snow will wake up in bed with Suzanne PleshetteHe's a small part of the books. If I recall correctly, he molests Theon or some other kid in the books in a flashback.
I agree with everything you've said here. NK, it was like wow, but plausible.
Crossbows at long range?
Tyrion hiding in the crypts, that are full of dead people?
Messandei being captured after going belowdecks on a ship that sunk
The best military minds of the north running their entire cavalry blindly into the walkers?
Ghost surviving the cavalry charge
Just lazy writing or rushing or whatever. What's next, it's all a dream in a Giant's eye?
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Euron is a badass. He's meant to be an almost unstoppable force. He's sailed places most wouldn't dare and seen things few others have seen. He's made and spent a fortune along the way and collected incredibly rare and unthinkable artifacts. But the show never bothered to put in the time and effort to let us know these things. The fault is really less in the things Euron is doing than the way they introduced him.
Mile High
Footballguy
My biggest problem is that if the ships could see Dani and the dragons then Dani should have been able to see them first and from farther away.
Also never using Bran to go back in the past a few days and see what Cersei has been up to.
Or talking to Arya to get her opinion on if she thinks she can take out Cersei.
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Bob Sacamano
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Any sentence you can think to start with, "I really hope there's an explanation for", we're probably at a point where you can stop hoping.
He’s Scrappy Doo in the show. It’s a shame if he’s going to be this important to the ending and he’s a cartoon. Just imagine this, what if Euron’s character killed the NK? On Cersei’s crew he’s almost at the same level as Arya’s kill of the NK. He’s done levels of importance that only Arya, Dany and the magical, purveyor of the undead guy have done.
culdeus
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Not buying that. Plausible, but please no. It would undermine his entire character, IMO.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Yeah show euron sucks....stbugs said:
need2know
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
While she's sailing to Dragonstone - in their ships. Also, she has access to one of the best sailors/smugglers on the planet - and they send him off on horse back with Jon rather than have him advance scout on the ocean, or at least run the fleet.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
And he would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling Stark kids.stbugs said:
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Let's start with your assumption that we want to get out in the first place...
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Benioff and Weiss should probably just throw every internet-enabled device they have into the ocean (or just shoot a gigantic 200 mph harpoon into them from 800 feet away) and go move into the mountains. This doesn't seem like it is or will be very fun for them.
that is something that has always fascinated me about this series - Essos, in many ways, seems more civilized and populated than Westeros. Why is that?
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Ask George. Also, Essos is huge, has a wide variety of social structures.
I was half expecting Arya or some other representative to head back over there and make a deal with the Iron Bank to cut off Cersei's funds, as it seems clear she's a loser long term, maybe take a loan out themselves and buy off the Golden Company. But there's not time for that in the show now.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
No snowbillies in Essos.
It's older. It was settled first. Bigger. More diverse. Valaryia was there and that was center of the universe.
It'll actually probably get even more awesome than Westeros now that the Dothraki are gone.
Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
Now that people can teleport, there may be enough time, the show only needs 5 minutes to settle that.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Yeah using Bran to warg into ravens to scout Kings Landing would make way too much sense.
Zow
Footballguy
I thought the show actually did a pretty good job giving appropriate background to Ramsey. Euron, not so much. As Bob Sac mentioned above, and from what I've heard from other sources, Euron is a much bigger deal in the books and so the notion of him taking down a dragon isn't a huge stretch. It's just us show viewers weren't given anything other than the initial fratricide. I don't see why Euron couldn't have had some scene in Essos when Dany was over there or been referenced to or something.culdeus said:
Zow
Footballguy
Or just, you know, "hey Bran can you peer into the future a bit for us and give some suggestions?"
ETA: or ####### explain why the above isn't possible. I'll take either one as they're way better than having this seemingly all-knowing being sit there in a near comatose state.
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Mile High
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Zow
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bostonfred
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Don't Noonan
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Zow
Footballguy
I thought there was some suggestion that he could see into the future.
Regardless, our discussion here exemplifies one of my biggest gripes with the show in that it has just butchered the Bran character (along with Euron and the children of the forest).
Ilov80s
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It was in the post episode breakdown it’s what one of the show runners said
https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1125258014619922432?s=21
unless someone saw it and was taken out of context
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bostonfred
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We've seen euron kill the greyjoy guy, we've seen him argue to be made king, get dunked underwater and say he wants to murder his remaining family, he was able to get an island of boat building people to build much better boats than they've ever built before, he's got unlimited information, knowing that cersei wanted the sand snakes alive to torture them, knowing where they would be so he could destroy the previous best ships from the iron islands, knowing where to hide from the dragons that was on their route but not visible from the air, and we have seen him act like a water taxi, cut his crew mates tongues out with his only explanation being that someone lost a card game, he asked jamie if cersei liked a finger in her bum, pretended to be scared of zombies, and we saw him successfully beg for sex. I'd say we've seen a lot of euron. Too much even.
Now that the show has made him seem invincible, I expect him to die in some stupid way next.
bostonfred
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I really like this. and everyone thinks Jon will be back soon, but every few months he sends a raven with some excuse...Thunderlips said:
- "Tormund is having a birthday party next month. gonna stay a little longer."
- "stuck in traffic. promise I'll be back soon."
- "omg I left my wallet in the Vale. gotta go back for it."
Dickies
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ttr:
beer 30
Footballguy
Not with gaping holes in them.Can dragons swim?
Come on with the list or GTFO.
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
"believe it or not, I'm walking on air, I never thought I could feel so free-ee-ee...what the #### was that?!"
beer 30
Footballguy
This video (ignore the thing on the right at the :07 mark) gives a pretty thorough breakdown on why Essos at least seems more civilized. It's been populated by all the major rulers of the ancient world where as Westeros is kinda the spinoff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyjHq4HJGs4
I think he dies fighting Jamie over Cersei or vice versa but leaning more toward Euron biting it. They've made him into a super villan, he'll have Jamie on the ropes then Jamie will pull some cool, honorable knight #### and slice his throat wide open. Book it!
