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London calling: NFL wants UK team, and soon; Jags look like best fit

Jason La Canfora

Regardless of precisely what NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell did or didn't say at a conference on Tuesday regarding playing more games in London, make no mistake: Goodell's eyes remain fixed across the Atlantic, and that's not going to change.

A few years back if you had asked me about the likelihood of an NFL franchise in London, I'd have said, sometime in my lifetime, maybe in the next 25 years. Ask me now, and I'd say we'll see football -- American football -- being played on Sundays at Wembley Stadium within the next 10 years (possibly 5 to 7), and, yes, the Jacksonville Jaguars are the team numerous well-connected NFL people have tabbed as the most likely to land there.

For the last year or so, when I have talked to NFL team executives coming out of various owner's meetings, the tone has changed regarding their impression of the league's flirtation with London. It used to be more of an "if" scenario. Now, it's more like "when" we start playing in London. Like, it's only a matter of time. It's been a major initiative at the league office, spearheaded by the commissioner, and the commitment to getting this done seems unwavering.

When Eric Grubman, an executive vice president with the league who is closely involved with the league's International Committee ("They should just call it 'The London Committee," as one club official put it. "That's really what it is.") addresses owners at this meeting, there is a certainty in his voice, folks have told me, a sense that this will happen.

A franchise in London might not quite be impending, but everything the league has done in recent years -- including adding more regular-season games at Wembley and making the Jags annual tenants there for at least one match, er, I mean, game a year -- signals that this is no passing fancy.

After a league meeting last October, during which Grubman provided a more detailed update on the status of the NFL in London, this is what one team executive present in the meeting told me:

"Grubman pretty much flat-out said, 'We want to have a team in London -- our goal is to get a team there and make this happen,'" said one source who was present for the meeting. "It didn't sound like an 'if,' we took it as a 'when.' "

Now, you might ask, why wasn't Goodell himself making these statements? Well, that's not how it works. He's not running committee meetings and holding court on an issue like that. But make no mistake, Grubman isn't talking out of turn. The commissioner is fully behind this. If ticket sales remain robust and the thirst for more NFL games is there as the league adds multiple games per season -- and there is every sense within the league office that will remain the case -- then the next step is to get a franchise there, and ample time and resources are already being spent working through the various logistical issues that would have to be overcome.

Goodell's buzzword is innovation, and he is always pushing others to explore new horizons. He didn't pocket $30 million not to keep making the owners boatloads of money, and with the TV contracts in the United States secure beyond 2020, the league working on improving the in-game experience, and, short of eventually getting two franchises to Los Angeles (preferably in the Chavez Ravine area), there is only so much more that can be accomplished domestically.

The Buffalo Bills are already becoming more and more of a regional team, playing games in Toronto, and if the Rogers Communications folks (a global heavyweight based in Toronto) acquire the franchise whenever Ralph Wilson passes, then trust me, the Bills will be very, very much a regional franchise, playing plenty of games in Canada. Mexico City, in theory, makes sense, but concerns about security likely preclude it coming to fruition anytime soon.

That leaves London.

League officials look at the popularity of sports like soccer worldwide -- the kind of marketing and merchandizing and television rights deals a league like the English Premier League nets in Asia and the Far East -- and see tremendous room for growth. Teams like Chelsea and Manchester United can play exhibition games in Thailand and India or South Africa and pocket big bucks, while growing their brands. They can come to the U.S. for glorified practice sessions and sell tickets for $100 and more each and sell out 80,000-seat NFL stadiums.

So, then, eventually, why can't NFL teams do the same?

And, with the television product pretty much at a saturation point in America (we have games three nights a week), the best way to expand the demand, scope, and rights fees for NFL football abroad would be by having a franchise in Europe playing meaningful games 16 weeks a year. That's how you build fan identity and loyalty and get people digging deep in their pockets to be a true part of the NFL experience.

At some point, the NFL might lose it's chokehold on the wallets of the American sporting consumer (a far off thought, for sure, but look at the dips boxing and baseball have taken at various times), but it has only just begun to exploit the possible revenue streams on a global level. And, I'm sorry, good people of Jacksonville, Fla., but moving the Jags would make total fiscal sense.

(And this isn't about expansion. The owners are very comfortable with 32 teams, or damn close to it. Remember, this is a revenue-sharing model and they only want that a pie cut up into so many pieces. If you can flip, say, a Jacksonville into a London and a San Diego or St. Louis or Oakland into LA, well, that's much more appealing and will grow that overall pie exponentially for all, without adding any more mouths to feed at the table.)

Jacksonville is, at best, the third-best location for an NFL team within its own state. It lacks the local infrastructure, corporate support, capital and stadium to be competitive on a local scale in many ways, much less a global one. You can't even begin to compare it to London in any manner, much less its ability to foster an economically robust pro sports franchise. London could draw on a good chunk of Western Europe within a short train or plane ride, in terms of a regional fan base, and is a worldwide center of banking, culture, construction, you name it.

Issues of travel aside, you'd be hard-pressed to come up with five cities in the world that make better sense for an NFL team than London when you look at this the way an owner would. It has everything in place, and is oozing with potential as an untapped market.

Just imagine what the local TV rights to broadcast preseason games would be like, compared to the relative pittance it would bring in Jacksonville. Think about what you could charge for tickets (and you know these owners would love to get that Pound Sterling rolling in, a currency that far outpaces our dollar). No more putting a tarp over the upper deck. No more competing with college teams for local spending and attendance.

Sure, you're competing with soccer, but we're talking 10 dates a year -- including preseason -- at most, and somehow I think with a population that large and an economy that strong and with the interest in the NFL already multiplying over the years. London could find a way to support a team. Don't even get me started on what the sponsorship deals and licensing agreements could look like, compared to what the Jags bring in, and the network of European-based companies that would suddenly want a bigger stake in the NFL.

Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.

Assuming the Bills stay in the Southern Ontario/Western New York region, and realizing that the league office won't be letting the Raiders back into Los Angeles under current ownership, much less give them London, the list of candidates for London is pretty slim.

The Vikings got their stadium. The Chargers make too much sense for LA if they move. If the Panthers can't get the upgrades they want to their stadium, expect to hear saber rattling about LA, but London seems too extreme for Jerry Richardson. The Rams got a favorable arbitration decision regarding theirs (though if they don't get everything they want from the locals, I'd put Stan Kroenke, who already owns fabled English soccer club Arsenal, right near the top of owners to possibly go to London or LA). The Titans, maybe after Bud Adams passes? I don't see it. So that about covers possible suspects.

Don't sweat the details, like travel. Have you even looked at the 49ers' brutal travel schedule that's ahead in 2013, or glanced back at the last year's? You think a series of five-hour flights during a six-month schedule is enough of a deterrent to derail all this economic goodness? Then you haven't been paying attention. Don't give me long flights, or fatigue, or players not wanting to play abroad. The league wants to add regular-season games, has made Thursday nights a staple of the schedule and plenty of athletes in other sports go abroad -- it's beyond common in basketball, hockey and soccer, and even baseball.

The London Jaguars (sorry, but just think of the sponsorship deal with Jaguar, a most British company) will take two week swings Stateside, and the league will work out byes for many teams the week after they play at London. West Coast teams will do what the 49ers have already been doing during trips East, and to London, and hold camp for a week somewhere closer between games (Youngstown, Ohio, has become the 49ers' second home).

The London team can easily maintain a U.S. office for some football operations people, where they can conduct player workouts and tryouts in-season, perhaps even maintain a developmental squad based there (and in this day and age, the coach back in London could easily watch a Tuesday tryout in real time over a laptop).

Teams that play in London during the preseason will hold camp over there for a few weeks around the game, and I'd have the London team play only home preseason games -- which creates more dates for them and fans can watch other teams train over there between exhibition games (which grows the overall NFL brand). The Cowboys already fly halfway across the U.S. to train in the cooler climes of California during part of camp, for instance.

(Oh, what, you say that deprives the common fan here of seeing his or her team practice? Take a look at home many teams have already cut costs by moving camp to their training facility. The good 'ol days of veterans riding bikes to practice, quaint and cool as it is, is already succumbing to profits and the simpler logistics of conducting camp the same place you train. Like I said, you must not be paying attention.)

What's that you say, the quality of play will suffer? Um, yeah, again, Thursday Night Football. 'Nuff said.

The London Jags don't have any natural rivalries? Well, some would say London could prove to be plenty big enough to support two teams, and the idea of derbies -- local competing teams from the same (even small) cities is central to soccer culture already (Google "London Derby," then plug in pretty much any other European city you can think of).

So will it happen? Will an NFL team be based in London? Yes, it will.

Will the Jaguars definitely be the team to call London home? I'm not willing to say that just yet, but if I had to place a bet at Ladbrokes (Google it) I'd be putting quite a few quid on the London Jaguars, particularly if this comes together sooner rather than later.
 
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I'd probably buy a season ticket if they did have a London expansion, but I'm hardly jumping up and down for it.

The fact they've sold out both games this year shows that there is a growing market in the UK, but I'm not sure it's big enough to support a team yet.

 
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Shouldn't the article be called "Goodell Calling"? London doesn't seem to be calling to any faraway towns over its lack of an NFL team.

 
Boo. The logistics would really suck. It already sucks for the teams that have to play one game over seas. Then there is the impossibility of any sort of regional rivalry, etc. this would cause. This team would be such a "red-headed step child."

One thing that might work some day is having a Canadian division (AFC), and a European division (NFC), bringing the total team count up to 40, if they want to really go for this sort of thing.

The other thing that would go hand in hand with this is an 18 game schedule with 3, or so, byes per team.

 
Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.

 
Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
I think he meant 'continent' instead of 'country' but point still stands. And the Jags aren't going anywhere. They have an iron-clad lease that runs thru 2027. Actually now that I think about it, there really is nothing to believe in his post. What was his point anyway?

 
Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
I think he meant 'continent' instead of 'country' but point still stands. And the Jags aren't going anywhere. They have an iron-clad lease that runs thru 2027. Actually now that I think about it, there really is nothing to believe in his post. What was his point anyway?
I don't think he was suggesting the Jags were moving. He was just saying they might get support, as the adopted team of many, in the UK if they keep playing games there.

 
Except there's this misconception that the Jags have a bunch of blackouts and can't draw attendance. A lot of people put them at the top of the list of teams likely to move or be contracted. Truth is, they draw decent numbers (around 20th in the league) in attendance. For all their miserable seasons, the fanbase supports them better than others who don't get nearly as scrutinized as JAX.

 
Such an awful idea and I pray it doesn't happen. The NBA was into the idea of having a European team a couple of years ago but talk of that seems to have sensibly died down.

It also wouldn't really be the "National" Football League anymore.

 
Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
I think he meant 'continent' instead of 'country' but point still stands. And the Jags aren't going anywhere. They have an iron-clad lease that runs thru 2027. Actually now that I think about it, there really is nothing to believe in his post. What was his point anyway?
I don't think he was suggesting the Jags were moving. He was just saying they might get support, as the adopted team of many, in the UK if they keep playing games there.
I'm not even sure anyone would adopt them. I'd get a season ticket just to see some NFL games but I'd still be a Colts fan.

When they have the games at Wembley, there is a shirt from basically every NFL franchise regardless of who is playing. If the Jags came to London, it wouldn't automatically make everyone Jags fans.

 
Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
I think he meant 'continent' instead of 'country' but point still stands. And the Jags aren't going anywhere. They have an iron-clad lease that runs thru 2027. Actually now that I think about it, there really is nothing to believe in his post. What was his point anyway?
I don't think he was suggesting the Jags were moving. He was just saying they might get support, as the adopted team of many, in the UK if they keep playing games there.
I'm not even sure anyone would adopt them. I'd get a season ticket just to see some NFL games but I'd still be a Colts fan. When they have the games at Wembley, there is a shirt from basically every NFL franchise regardless of who is playing. If the Jags came to London, it wouldn't automatically make everyone Jags fans.
Yes. The Bills haven't had much luck in Toronto. I have a bunch of friends who buy tickets for those games, but only 1 has decided to become a Bills fan. And he was the one who was least interested in the NFL initially. If the NFL expands abroad, it's initially mainly going to sell tickets to NFL fans who already have a favorite team.
 
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
No offense to Canadians, but it's not really viewed as a foreign country here in the U.S.

Colder, yes, but foreign, no.

 
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
No offense to Canadians, but it's not really viewed as a foreign country here in the U.S. Colder, yes, but foreign, no.
I don't know if viewing them as foreign is what's missing so much as viewing them as a real country.
 
Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
I think he meant 'continent' instead of 'country' but point still stands. And the Jags aren't going anywhere. They have an iron-clad lease that runs thru 2027. Actually now that I think about it, there really is nothing to believe in his post. What was his point anyway?
I don't think he was suggesting the Jags were moving. He was just saying they might get support, as the adopted team of many, in the UK if they keep playing games there.
I'm not even sure anyone would adopt them. I'd get a season ticket just to see some NFL games but I'd still be a Colts fan. When they have the games at Wembley, there is a shirt from basically every NFL franchise regardless of who is playing. If the Jags came to London, it wouldn't automatically make everyone Jags fans.
At first this would be the case but as fans get to know the players on the team they'll start to root for the home team. There's also a lot of U.S. fans who root for more than one team as well.
 
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Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
I think he meant 'continent' instead of 'country' but point still stands. And the Jags aren't going anywhere. They have an iron-clad lease that runs thru 2027. Actually now that I think about it, there really is nothing to believe in his post. What was his point anyway?
I don't think he was suggesting the Jags were moving. He was just saying they might get support, as the adopted team of many, in the UK if they keep playing games there.
I'm not even sure anyone would adopt them. I'd get a season ticket just to see some NFL games but I'd still be a Colts fan. When they have the games at Wembley, there is a shirt from basically every NFL franchise regardless of who is playing. If the Jags came to London, it wouldn't automatically make everyone Jags fans.
Yes. The Bills haven't had much luck in Toronto. I have a bunch of friends who buy tickets for those games, but only 1 has decided to become a Bills fan. And he was the one who was least interested in the NFL initially. If the NFL expands abroad, it's initially mainly going to sell tickets to NFL fans who already have a favorite team.
A Tolstoyesque report could be written about why the Bills playing in Toronto was/is an idiotic idea. From the death of the fast ferry, to the failure to realize that the majority of Canadian Bills fans aren't from the Toronto area, to the practice of charging some season ticket holders for that game, to the increased tax load on the players...dumb all around.

 
Such an awful idea and I pray it doesn't happen. The NBA was into the idea of having a European team a couple of years ago but talk of that seems to have sensibly died down.

It also wouldn't really be the "National" Football League anymore.
The NFL could re-brand as the International Football League or IFL for short.

 
I will have so much free time on my hands when I no longer have the desire to pay attention to the NFL. Thank you Mr. Goodell for setting me free.

 
Faust said:
RushHour said:
Such an awful idea and I pray it doesn't happen. The NBA was into the idea of having a European team a couple of years ago but talk of that seems to have sensibly died down. It also wouldn't really be the "National" Football League anymore.
The NFL could re-brand as the International Football League or IFL for short.
Awful. I pray that somehow Goodell is removed before he can muck up anything else.
 
The NFL hasn't made many big-money mistakes the past few decades. I think they think they've about exhausted the amount they can squeeze out of the domestic market and internationally is now the only avenue left for substantial revenue growth. They might not be sure that they can succeed but I bet they think they have to at least try.

The roadblock when going overseas is the world's most popular sport, with as much ingrained fanaticism as we have here in the states. They don't have to deal with that in the U.S.

"The answer to all your questions," says Pat Forde and Tony Kornheiser, "is money."

 
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Being the first league with a franchise in another country would be a legacy-cementer for Goodell. It's the ultimate innovation, and when guys like Robert Kraft and John York opine so openly about the viability of a franchise in London, it's not an accident. It's also not exactly random that Jacksonville ended up being the team to make a multiyear commitment to play games in London, or that the team is working to increase its community outreach and presence there. The earlier the blokes in jolly' ol' Londontowne start taking to the Jags as the home side, all the better.
The Raptors, Expos, Blue Jays and a whole raft of NHL teams are probably surprised by the first sentence here. When there's such a blatant error, it makes it tough to believe anything else in the piece.
John York moved his team to San Jose, after San Francisco politicians kicked him in the nuts. He is a total football idiot too.

 
The NFL hasn't made many big-money mistakes the past few decades. I think they think they've about exhausted the amount they can squeeze out of the domestic market and internationally is now the only avenue left for substantial revenue growth. They might not be sure that they can succeed but I bet they think they have to at least try.

The roadblock when going overseas is the world's most popular sport, with as much ingrained fanaticism as we have here in the states. They don't have to deal with that in the U.S.

"The answer to all your questions," says Pat Forde and Tony Kornheiser, "is money."
Perhaps I'm in the minority but I like the idea of football becoming more popular in other countries. As much as it's about money for the NFL I think it would be great if there were more NFL fans worldwide.

 
The NFL hasn't made many big-money mistakes the past few decades. I think they think they've about exhausted the amount they can squeeze out of the domestic market and internationally is now the only avenue left for substantial revenue growth. They might not be sure that they can succeed but I bet they think they have to at least try.

The roadblock when going overseas is the world's most popular sport, with as much ingrained fanaticism as we have here in the states. They don't have to deal with that in the U.S.

"The answer to all your questions," says Pat Forde and Tony Kornheiser, "is money."
Perhaps I'm in the minority but I like the idea of football becoming more popular in other countries. As much as it's about money for the NFL I think it would be great if there were more NFL fans worldwide.
More interesting to me is the question of which has the better chance of success -- soccer in the U.S. or football internationally? I could see arguments for both sides and, besides, trends change.

 
The NFL hasn't made many big-money mistakes the past few decades. I think they think they've about exhausted the amount they can squeeze out of the domestic market and internationally is now the only avenue left for substantial revenue growth. They might not be sure that they can succeed but I bet they think they have to at least try. The roadblock when going overseas is the world's most popular sport, with as much ingrained fanaticism as we have here in the states. They don't have to deal with that in the U.S. "The answer to all your questions," says Pat Forde and Tony Kornheiser, "is money."
Perhaps I'm in the minority but I like the idea of football becoming more popular in other countries. As much as it's about money for the NFL I think it would be great if there were more NFL fans worldwide.
What would be great about that?
 
The NFL hasn't made many big-money mistakes the past few decades. I think they think they've about exhausted the amount they can squeeze out of the domestic market and internationally is now the only avenue left for substantial revenue growth. They might not be sure that they can succeed but I bet they think they have to at least try.

The roadblock when going overseas is the world's most popular sport, with as much ingrained fanaticism as we have here in the states. They don't have to deal with that in the U.S.

"The answer to all your questions," says Pat Forde and Tony Kornheiser, "is money."
Perhaps I'm in the minority but I like the idea of football becoming more popular in other countries. As much as it's about money for the NFL I think it would be great if there were more NFL fans worldwide.
More interesting to me is the question of which has the better chance of success -- soccer in the U.S. or football internationally? I could see arguments for both sides and, besides, trends change.
It's pretty clear isn't it? I mean soccer isn't a major sport here, but it's had far more success than even Goodell could dream of for American-style football internationally. It's taught in elementary school, most high-schools and universities have a team, it's one of the more popular community sports, and it's even got a modestly successful professional league.

 
The NFL hasn't made many big-money mistakes the past few decades. I think they think they've about exhausted the amount they can squeeze out of the domestic market and internationally is now the only avenue left for substantial revenue growth. They might not be sure that they can succeed but I bet they think they have to at least try.

The roadblock when going overseas is the world's most popular sport, with as much ingrained fanaticism as we have here in the states. They don't have to deal with that in the U.S.

"The answer to all your questions," says Pat Forde and Tony Kornheiser, "is money."
Perhaps I'm in the minority but I like the idea of football becoming more popular in other countries. As much as it's about money for the NFL I think it would be great if there were more NFL fans worldwide.
More interesting to me is the question of which has the better chance of success -- soccer in the U.S. or football internationally? I could see arguments for both sides and, besides, trends change.
It's pretty clear isn't it? I mean soccer isn't a major sport here, but it's had far more success than even Goodell could dream of for American-style football internationally. It's taught in elementary school, most high-schools and universities have a team, it's one of the more popular community sports, and it's even got a modestly successful professional league.
Even at that, soccer has hardly taken the U.S. by storm; it's been a long difficult pull for American soccer and, while a few efforts have been made (most notably the European league we had for a few years), I don't think that you can say that the NFL has been as committed to international expansion as soccer has been here. Judging by tv ratings of the major leagues and cup play, however, soccer here may have hit a much sharper upward curve of late. OTOH, a billion people presumably watch the Super Bowl -- could that translate into local support for football? I really don't know.

 
I bet the players loathe having to travel clear across the ocean. And I mean, come on, unless they have several more NFL teams expanding in Europe, and not just one, then the players who play for that team will hate it as

they will be traveling far 8 out of 16 games. Hardly fair.

 
The article seems to totally downplay the travel logistics. There is zero doubt in my mind that the travel logistics would create horrific advantages, all sorts of US tv messes and just an all around nightmare.

And wasn't it just a few years ago all the talk was about how there would be a team in Mexico soon? Where are we on that one?

 
Boo. The logistics would really suck. It already sucks for the teams that have to play one game over seas. Then there is the impossibility of any sort of regional rivalry, etc. this would cause. This team would be such a "red-headed step child."
You're right. Rather than regional it would be ' Britain vs America' - the entire nation would be engaged rather than just one town.

 
I bet the players loathe having to travel clear across the ocean. And I mean, come on, unless they have several more NFL teams expanding in Europe, and not just one, then the players who play for that team will hate it as

they will be traveling far 8 out of 16 games. Hardly fair.
Because they currently play 16 home games right?

Seattle are currently being screwed by their travel schedule compared to East coast teams so the NFL have established they do not care about fairness. The entire draft that tells players where they have to play shows how much they care about their views,

The goal here is to tap into the UK audience who are currently passionate enough to stay up to all hours to watch - they have never had a team to support who played in primetime....or any time other than 3 in the morning and midnight. Despite that they sell out every year without any covered tarpaulin or blackout threats.

They also don't ##### about how terrible it is to grow the game.

 
That whole article is innuendo based on speculation. It all started out of Bart Hubbuch misreporting Goodell's comments. Greg Aiello even issued a denial.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/6/4/4396242/jaguars-london-home-game

Then LaCanfora and PFT pile on the convenient target.

And even after the Jaguars web writer clarifies the Jags plans, PFT continues to twist it into "well, it;s just a matter of time"

Marcus from New York City:
O-Man, could you tell me if I've got this straight? There is a chance that the Jags may play more than one game overseas in 2014 and beyond. However, that game -should it happen - will most likely NOT be a home game. Is that correct?
John: The best way to put it is that in 2014-2016, yes, there is a chance for a second game overseas. It almost certainly will not be a second Jaguars home game. As for what happens after that, four years is a long time and much can change.
 
I will have so much free time on my hands when I no longer have the desire to pay attention to the NFL. Thank you Mr. Goodell for setting me free.
#cuttingforgoodell

its going to happen one day and he'll be dammed if another commish gets it done before him
Pretty soon the season will be 25 games long, a game showing every day of the week, jerseys littered with advertisements, players doing live commercials on the sidelines, Montreal Movement versus the Hong Kong Towers,.......

Just planning my exit strategy.

 
Also on the travel concerns, would convicted felons be able to make the trip with the team out of the country? Like it or not, there are quite a few of those that are active NFL players.

 
Too big to fail? Be careful NFL. They tried NFL Europe,it flopped. One game a year is a novelty right now. They can hype the game and get some fannies in the seats. But for 8 or 10 weeks,when soccer and CYCLING are bigger sports across the pond. Bad idea. The NFL is riding high right now,better to try to get their house in order here first. Address the problems the weaker franchises are having(Jacksonville,etc),move them to London? Keep it real Mr. Commish.

 
Truman said:
Boo. The logistics would really suck. It already sucks for the teams that have to play one game over seas. Then there is the impossibility of any sort of regional rivalry, etc. this would cause. This team would be such a "red-headed step child."
You're right. Rather than regional it would be ' Britain vs America' - the entire nation would be engaged rather than just one town.
I love the idea.

Oh and cry me a river about these unfortunate millionaires who have to make a trans-Atlantic flight to play a game. :cry:

 
Too big to fail? Be careful NFL. They tried NFL Europe,it flopped. One game a year is a novelty right now. They can hype the game and get some fannies in the seats. But for 8 or 10 weeks,when soccer and CYCLING are bigger sports across the pond. Bad idea. The NFL is riding high right now,better to try to get their house in order here first. Address the problems the weaker franchises are having(Jacksonville,etc),move them to London? Keep it real Mr. Commish.
8 million people in London vs. 800k in Jacksonville. All they need are 80,000 Londoners (and tourists) willing to go to 8 games.

Sorry, but the NFLE is not the NFL.

 

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