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Wonder if its the same source that a couple months ago was saying he would be ready for week 1Expected back week 3
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Wonder if its the same source that a couple months ago was saying he would be ready for week 1Expected back week 3
Thanks. Wouldn't it be likely after two ACL surgeries that making cuts in the future could be hampered?The first one he slipped on a first down marker as he went out of bounds. Freak accident and didn't involve cutting.
The more touches a RB has at any point in his career the more touches he has left (on average).I would add in the receptions and a few kickoff returns too. If you do that he's at 1,654 total touches.
Like Jamal Anderson? I know you said on average but I don't get it.The more touches a RB has at any point in his career the more touches he has left (on average).
Who knows with today's medical technology, but then there is age. Despite everyone's comments we won't know until he steps on the field.Thanks. Wouldn't it be likely after two ACL surgeries that making cuts in the future could be hampered?
Touches are a great measure of talent -- and talented players play longer.Like Jamal Anderson? I know you said on average but I don't get it.
True, it's a wait and see. He still has only been working with the scout team which means they weren't even considering him as an option this week. Seems like a big move to go from not at all part of the plan to definitely playing. Who knows, maybe he is looking sharp with the scout team. It seems to me that the most likely scenario is Charles suffered a setback in camp. Reports went from positive to negative abruptly. Hard to tell what this means going forward.Wonder if its the same source that a couple months ago was saying he would be ready for week 1
That's cute. People might care what you have to say if we weren't all 100% sure you'll go into hiding and never come back if Charles doesn't return to form.Can't wait to come back in and check this thread after Charles comes back and starts lighting it up again.
Lots of yummy crow to be eaten.
You think illogic to hiding? Care to put a monetary wager on that?That's cute. People might care what you have to say if we weren't all 100% sure you'll go into hiding and never come back if Charles doesn't return to form.
You obviously think I care about fantasy football way more than I actually do and that I attach it more to my ego and self worth than I do.That's cute. People might care what you have to say if we weren't all 100% sure you'll go into hiding and never come back if Charles doesn't return to form.
You obviously think I care about fantasy football way more than I actually do and that I attach it more to my ego and self worth than I do.
Anyone who has trouble eating crow when they are wrong about a hobby where they have ZERO control over the outcomes has some issues.
Happily eat crow if Charles sucks.
Why would anybody on either side of Ware need to eat crow? Ware's value is directly correlated to the health of Jamaal. Last I checked--the status of Charles in regards to when he would return was cryptic at best before today. Even after that report---nobody knows what kind of role or volume that Charles will have. It's not like anybody here is misinterpreting available information. Unless somebody here is a part of the Chiefs training/coaching staff-- we are all relying on hunches and gut instincts when it comes to this situation. Let's not act like people that didn't believe in Ware were somehow more "correct" in regards to some sort of statistical analysis. I can tell you that I personally drafted Ware in 2 of 3 leagues. In one league I got him with my 14th round pick--the other I got him in the 10th--and he's single handedily basically won me my matchups in both leagues. If Charles comes back next week--I will absolutely be targeting Ware as a buy low in my third league. I hope the Ware owner is bummed out enough by the return of Charles to somehow forget that Ware is probably still a flex option as well as the best handcuff in fantasy football at that point.You obviously think I care about fantasy football way more than I actually do and that I attach it more to my ego and self worth than I do.
Anyone who has trouble eating crow when they are wrong about a hobby where they have ZERO control over the outcomes has some issues.
Happily eat crow if Charles sucks.
I was never a ware detractor. I simply believe that there is a huge over reaction going on with Charles.Why would anybody on either side of Ware need to eat crow? Ware's value is directly correlated to the health of Jamaal. Last I checked--the status of Charles in regards to when he would return was cryptic at best before today. Even after that report---nobody knows what kind of role or volume that Charles will have. It's not like anybody here is misinterpreting available information. Unless somebody here is a part of the Chiefs training/coaching staff-- we are all relying on hunches and gut instincts when it comes to this situation. Let's not act like people that didn't believe in Ware were somehow more "correct" in regards to some sort of statistical analysis. I can tell you that I personally drafted Ware in 2 of 3 leagues. In one league I got him with my 14th round pick--the other I got him in the 10th--and he's single handedily basically won me my matchups in both leagues. If Charles comes back next week--I will absolutely be targeting Ware as a buy low in my third league. I hope the Ware owner is bummed out enough by the return of Charles to somehow forget that Ware is probably still a flex option as well as the best handcuff in fantasy football at that point.
I don't bet internet strangers. Especially ones with your character and track record. But I've seen trolls like you come and go. You run your mouth then come back to beat your chest if you're right, but disappear if you're wrong. Move along.You think illogic to hiding? Care to put a monetary wager on that?
Huh? I think you might be mistaking me for someone else. You can move along to pahtnaI don't bet internet strangers. Especially ones with your character and track record. But I've seen trolls like you come and go. You run your mouth then come back to beat your chest if you're right, but disappear if you're wrong. Move along.
I totally get you and understand your point of view. I think the point here is that the fantasy world generally tends to discount ambiguity. Charles is a 29 year old RB that relies on cutting and slashing, that has decently high mileage, that is coming off a 2nd ACL injury. He also has a history of being an elite fantasy player--and if he wasn't coming off of an injury--he'd easily be a first round pick. You essentially translated the ambiguity around his health into a 2 round draft discount. If Charles returns to anything close to his prior form--he could be one the best steals of your draft.I was never a ware detractor. I simply believe that there is a huge over reaction going on with Charles.
Which I was happy about BC it allowed him to slip to me in the 3rd RD of my draft.
I believe that Charles AND ware can have success in this offense.
But charles will be the main guy and slide back into his usual role. So he will be an rb1 again.
Ware will have a role but it will be less. He'll probably handle all gl and short yardage work, and he will spell Charles for a few series every game. It will be enough to make him a valuable flex play.
Agreed. As a Charles owner I'm so not worried. There's room for 2 guys to have good statistical seasons.if charles and ware split 30 carries and receptions evenly 50/50, won't they both be RB1/High RB2? with all the comments of both ware/charles sides, i could not see why not
Yes - it's why I went out and traded for both guys. Both could be had in my league. When Charles comes back and people realize that both can exist. That window will closeif charles and ware split 30 carries and receptions evenly 50/50, won't they both be RB1/High RB2? with all the comments of both ware/charles sides, i could not see why not
He's been saying this for weeks, without providing any specifics on what's going on. He must be the Donald Trump of coaching.User Actions
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An upgrade for#KCChiefs RB Jamaal Charles: Coach Andy Reid says at his press conference he’s questionable for Sunday.
Is he active only because West is hurt? I don't think the Chiefs have any intention of getting him involved yet. Still starting Ware with confidence.Adam SchefterVerified account@AdamSchefter
Despite being listed as questionable (knee), Chiefs' RB Jamaal Charles will make 2016 season debut Sunday night in Pitt, per source.
that's kind of my guess too. I think he'll play for sure and if ware fumbles again may play more. i bet we get more "reports" on potential usage before sunday night.Is he active only because West is hurt? I don't think the Chiefs have any intention of getting him involved yet. Still starting Ware with confidence.
Hadnt really considered that until I saw your comment. That makes a lot of sense. In any case I imagine he will be eased in.Is he active only because West is hurt? I don't think the Chiefs have any intention of getting him involved yet. Still starting Ware with confidence.
You ever had your #### eeeeeeeeased in, bro?In any case I imagine he will be eased in.
?You ever had your #### eeeeeeeeased in, bro?
You've obviously never seen Training Day...?
what do you mean, i dont get it.
Is that a football movie? Are your comments even about Jamaal Charles?
Is that a football movie? Are your comments even about Jamaal Charles?
Chiefs coach Andy Reid said Jamaal Charles (knee, questionable) still saw some scout-team work this week.
"It’s been good," Reid said of Charles' week of practice. "He’s done a little bit of team, a little bit of scout. He’s mixed it in and out and looks like he’s getting better all the time." Charles will reportedly make his debut this week, but it will be surprising if he sees more than a handful of touches with the bye week on the horizon. Spencer Ware should still operate as the lead back.
Source: kcchiefs.com
Oct 1 - 10:29 AM
If this is available to you, then you shouldn't be thinking about it very long. No idea who in their right mind would deal Ingram for Charles in any league, but especially in a dynasty.How did Charles look out there?
Thinking about moving him for Ingram straight up in dynasty
He's gotta be ready to rock now... right?! RIGHT?!Charles owners ... are you starting him with confidence this week @ OAK. I am starting him at FLEX over Landry and Maclin (no ppr)
I agree with this. If there's some buzz directly from the Chiefs indicating Charles starts and gets the bulk I will change horses.Basically, you play Ware until something happens on the field to move you in another direction, including after the bye.
Hard to blame him because of the wet field and rainI thought he looked stiff and unsure his first week back. I'd wait if I had somebody safer.
Pretty sure it's pushed in, not eeeeeeeeeased or even eased in. The line is pushed.You ever had your #### eeeeeeeeased in, bro?
Pretty sure it's pushed in, not eeeeeeeeeased or even eased in. The line is pushed.