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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

Even if you had nothing to do with it... when someone you know has been killed, possibly by two people staying in your house who were driving a car rented in your name, you are 100% insane to talk to the cops without a lawyer or let them into your house without a warrant.

right, let the cops cry that he wasnt co-operating. lawyer up and make em get a warrant

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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

Even if you had nothing to do with it... when someone you know has been killed, possibly by two people staying in your house who were driving a car rented in your name, you are 100% insane to talk to the cops without a lawyer or let them into your house without a warrant.

If Hernandez knew the guy had been killed, possibly by two people in his house, who were driving a car rented in his name, isn't he then at least accessory after the fact (assuming that the police or media did not tell him)

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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

As others have mentioned, if the cops knocked on your door and they said they wanted to tear through your house, are you willy nilly going to say yes? As a matter of course, you should ALWAYS get an attorney and make them get a search warrant. That protects your legal rights and makes things on a level playing field. Not sure that makes him "uncooperative."

Put another way, if people let the cops do a blanket search by being invited in, they can hold anything they find against you even if it has nothing to do with the crime they were searching for evidence on. Say his buddies had drugs or weapons that he didn't even know about . . . they could try to pin it on Hernandez, even if it turned out those guys had nothing to do with the homicide.

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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

Even if you had nothing to do with it... when someone you know has been killed, possibly by two people staying in your house who were driving a car rented in your name, you are 100% insane to talk to the cops without a lawyer or let them into your house without a warrant.

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Rotoworld updates:

A law enforcement source tells WBZ-TV in Boston that Aaron Hernandez has not been ruled out as a suspect in the ongoing homicide investigation.

Take this with a grain of salt as there's just one source and an issue of semantics looms. It's possible Hernandez hasn't been ruled out simply because he hasn't yet told his story to the authorities. The report also states that the victim is Odin Lloyd, 27, of Dorcester. Lloyd was a linebacker for the semi-pro Boston Bandits. State police detectives knocked on Hernandez's door Wednesday morning, but no one answered. They made a brief phone call and then left. On Tuesday night, police spent hours inside Hernandez's home and emerged with a box.
Source: WBZ-TV

The family of Odin Lloyd tells WBZ-TV that Lloyd dated the sister of Aaron Hernandez's girlfriend.

The pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together. Lloyd's body was found roughly a mile from Hernandez's home, in the vicinity of a rental car connected to the tight end. WBZ-TV is reporting that Hernandez is not cooperating with police and has not been ruled out as a suspect. He left his house in a white SUV Wednesday morning, presumably with his lawyers.

Source: WBZ-TV
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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

Even if you had nothing to do with it... when someone you know has been killed, possibly by two people staying in your house who were driving a car rented in your name, you are 100% insane to talk to the cops without a lawyer or let them into your house without a warrant.

If I had a nickel for every time the cops knocked on my door to question two guys that were staying with me and driving my rental car...........

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Might be time to trade Brady, they have two other QBs that would start for 75% of the league

so if they can get a ton for Brady it makes sense

Let's see. They are still a great team and have a legit shot at the next few super bowls. They

are gonna give that up for what exactly?

Tebow is a proven winner in the playoffs while Mallet is probably the greatest QB never to start a game in the NFL. I'm not sure their SB chances take a hit if they get the proper package back for Brady.
. LOL Teblow may have won some games but look at how he did it. Not professional looking at all. Wabbly 5 yard dump off passes and running the ball 90% of the time is not what the Pats or any other team for that matter wants... Why won't people just forget about the media's favorite 3rd string qb already! Mallet on the other hand looks like a qb and not a glorified passing halfback like Teblow.

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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

Even if you had nothing to do with it... when someone you know has been killed, possibly by two people staying in your house who were driving a car rented in your name, you are 100% insane to talk to the cops without a lawyer or let them into your house without a warrant.

If I had a nickel for every time the cops knocked on my door to question two guys that were staying with me and driving my rental car...........

You would have one less nickle then Hernandez..

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Report: Aaron Hernandez's house searched by police

By Dan Hanzus

Around the League Writer

Police in Massachusetts want to question New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez regarding the investigation of a possible homicide near the tight end's home in North Attleboro, Mass., ABC News reported Tuesday.

Citing an unnamed source, SI.com reported that Hernandez was not believed to be a suspect, but a vehicle rented in his name appears to be a key piece of evidence.

ABC News reported Wednesday that Hernandez was cooperative with police Tuesday night. The ABC News report also cited unnamed sources. SI.com later reported that police searched Hernandez's home Tuesday night, and two men were escorted from the scene separately, but they were not in handcuffs.

The homicide being investigated involves a body found about 5:30 p.m. Monday night in North Attleboro, according to the Bristol County District Attorney's Office. Prosecutors released no other information Tuesday night about the investigation.

When asked specifically about Hernandez, Yasmina Serdarevic, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, told NFL.com on Wednesday morning: "At this time, this office is not releasing any additional information with respect to the investigation into the body found Monday evening in North Attleboro."

Patriots spokesman Stacey James told ABC News: "I am aware of the reports, but I do not anticipate that we will be commenting publicly during an ongoing police investigation."

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday morning that the league would have no comment on the investigation.

A fourth-round pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, Hernandez has emerged as one of Tom Brady's favorite weapons. Hernandez will be even more vital to New England's offense if Rob Gronkowski is forced to miss time in the regular season after undergoing back surgery Tuesday.

Hernandez signed a seven-year, $41.1 million contract extension with the Patriots in August 2012.

UPDATE: The Associated Press reported Wednesday morning that Massachusetts State Police returned to Hernandez's home. Two troopers knocked at his door Wednesday morning in North Attleborough, Mass., but no one answered, according to The AP.

Follow Dan Hanzus on Twitter @DanHanzus.

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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

Even if you had nothing to do with it... when someone you know has been killed, possibly by two people staying in your house who were driving a car rented in your name, you are 100% insane to talk to the cops without a lawyer or let them into your house without a warrant.

If I had a nickel for every time the cops knocked on my door to question two guys that were staying with me and driving my rental car...........

You would have one less nickle then Hernandez..

He had 3 or 4 to spare.

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The family of homicide victim Odin Lloyd tells WBZ-TV that Lloyd dated the sister of Aaron Hernandez's girlfriend.

The pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together. Lloyd's body was found roughly a mile from Hernandez's home, in the vicinity of a rental car connected to the tight end. WBZ-TV is reporting that Hernandez is not cooperating with police and has not been ruled out as a suspect. He left his house in a white SUV Wednesday morning, presumably with his lawyers.
I hope it isn't a white bronco.

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If smoking some weed means you have character concerns then this whole world is in the crapper.

Drug users probably think that everyone in the world smokes weed. Well, here's a wake-up call, ghost, they don't. Drug use is a huge character flaw whether they are an athlete or not.

Besides, I would already argue that the world is in the crapper. Hell, we've got a sitting president who has admitted to using cocaine. And Dubya reportedly also used drugs. Not to mention Clinton, although he never inhaled (yeah right). Ridiculous world we live in that this kind of thing is brushed aside for the most powerful job in the world, let alone everyday people.

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So much speculation going on here, I think I'll toss out my conspiracy theory.

Hernandez, his Gf, her sister and the victim were all partying at the house when something went wrong.

A drug overdose does the victim in or somebody falls or gets hit by a car accidently, etc.

Hernandez doesn't have anything to do with it directly (he didn't kill a guy) but he feels compelled to cover it up because it could impact his gf, her sister or himself (maybe he was doing some drugs or something).

And so, it will all come out that he has some strong connection in this case..

OR

Like a lot of people have already said, "cops come knocking at your door wanting you to let them raid your house so you invoke your legal rights of protection as afforded to you as a citizen and the whole world overreacts...

I;'m gonna lead towards "B".

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"You keep on knocking but you can't come in."

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If smoking some weed means you have character concerns then this whole world is in the crapper.

Drug users probably think that everyone in the world smokes weed. Well, here's a wake-up call, ghost, they don't. Drug use is a huge character flaw whether they are an athlete or not.

Besides, I would already argue that the world is in the crapper. Hell, we've got a sitting president who has admitted to using cocaine. And Dubya reportedly also used drugs. Not to mention Clinton, although he never inhaled (yeah right). Ridiculous world we live in that this kind of thing is brushed aside for the most powerful job in the world, let alone everyday people.

I personally don't smoke weed, but only because I never liked the effect it had on me. But I, as well as you, know plenty of people who do, and describing it as a character flaw is ridiculous. There's really no difference between weed and booze. Do you think people who drink have character flaws too? There's a reason two states have legalized it, and many others decriminalized it. It will eventually be legal in every state.

You're really over-reacting about this.

ETA - If you ruled out any presidents who never tried drugs when they were younger, you would have a very small pool of candidates to choose from.

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Rotoworld updates:

A law enforcement source tells WBZ-TV in Boston that Aaron Hernandez has not been ruled out as a suspect in the ongoing homicide investigation.

Take this with a grain of salt as there's just one source and an issue of semantics looms. It's possible Hernandez hasn't been ruled out simply because he hasn't yet told his story to the authorities. The report also states that the victim is Odin Lloyd, 27, of Dorcester. Lloyd was a linebacker for the semi-pro Boston Bandits. State police detectives knocked on Hernandez's door Wednesday morning, but no one answered. They made a brief phone call and then left. On Tuesday night, police spent hours inside Hernandez's home and emerged with a box.
Source: WBZ-TV

The family of Odin Lloyd tells WBZ-TV that Lloyd dated the sister of Aaron Hernandez's girlfriend.

The pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together. Lloyd's body was found roughly a mile from Hernandez's home, in the vicinity of a rental car connected to the tight end. WBZ-TV is reporting that Hernandez is not cooperating with police and has not been ruled out as a suspect. He left his house in a white SUV Wednesday morning, presumably with his lawyers.

Source: WBZ-TV

I havent be ruled out yet either. Neither have you. Neither has anyone on this forum.

"not ruled out" just means they didnt do enough to be able to rule him out, and likely havent even talked to him yet. Not sure what police department would be stupid enough to rule someone out without even talking to them.

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If smoking some weed means you have character concerns then this whole world is in the crapper.

Drug users probably think that everyone in the world smokes weed. Well, here's a wake-up call, ghost, they don't. Drug use is a huge character flaw whether they are an athlete or not.

Besides, I would already argue that the world is in the crapper. Hell, we've got a sitting president who has admitted to using cocaine. And Dubya reportedly also used drugs. Not to mention Clinton, although he never inhaled (yeah right). Ridiculous world we live in that this kind of thing is brushed aside for the most powerful job in the world, let alone everyday people.

Not everyone, just ALMOST everyone. I don't smoke anything, but everyone I know does. Everyone they know does, and everyone I have ever talked to tells me that almost everyone they know does. Wake up

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If smoking some weed means you have character concerns then this whole world is in the crapper.

Drug users probably think that everyone in the world smokes weed. Well, here's a wake-up call, ghost, they don't. Drug use is a huge character flaw whether they are an athlete or not.

Besides, I would already argue that the world is in the crapper. Hell, we've got a sitting president who has admitted to using cocaine. And Dubya reportedly also used drugs. Not to mention Clinton, although he never inhaled (yeah right). Ridiculous world we live in that this kind of thing is brushed aside for the most powerful job in the world, let alone everyday people.

I personally don't smoke weed, but only because I never liked the effect it had on me. But I, as well as you, know plenty of people who do, and describing it as a character flaw is ridiculous. There's really no difference between weed and booze. Do you think people who drink have character flaws too? There's a reason two states have legalized it, and many others decriminalized it. It will eventually be legal in every state.

You're really over-reacting about this.

You're likely correct about it likely being legal in every state. In the meantime, it's not. And players KNOW that if they are caught using it they will be suspended and fined for up to an including a full year, possibly more at the commish's digression.

That being the case, and with these players literally having millions of dollars for themselves and their families on the line - I do consider it a "character flaw" if/when any of them are caught smoking weed - even more so when they are taking it to the next level and going through the process of attempting to hide their use of it through masking agents or such things.

The actual "use" of it isn't the character flaw to me - it's the blatant disrespect of "authority" (in this case the NFL), and the total stupidity of putting their money/career on the line for a short lived "high".

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So much speculation going on here, I think I'll toss out my conspiracy theory.

Hernandez, his Gf, her sister and the victim were all partying at the house when something went wrong.

A drug overdose does the victim in or somebody falls or gets hit by a car accidently, etc.

Hernandez doesn't have anything to do with it directly (he didn't kill a guy) but he feels compelled to cover it up because it could impact his gf, her sister or himself (maybe he was doing some drugs or something).

And so, it will all come out that he has some strong connection in this case..

OR

Like a lot of people have already said, "cops come knocking at your door wanting you to let them raid your house so you invoke your legal rights of protection as afforded to you as a citizen and the whole world overreacts...

I;'m gonna lead towards "B".

The victim was found with a gunshot to the head.

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Hernandez's girlfriends sister is getting beat by her boyfriend. Hernandez puts out the hit to his lackeys to take care of the problem.

Problem solved, except he didn't plan it out well and now he's risking 25 to life.

I'm dumping him in all my dynasties to anyone who believes in his innocence.

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Hernandez's girlfriends sister is getting beat by her boyfriend. Hernandez puts out the hit to his lackeys to take care of the problem.

Problem solved, except he didn't plan it out well and now he's risking 25 to life.

I'm dumping him in all my dynasties to anyone who believes in his innocence.

Shick, right?

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I got Ballard, Tebow, Dr. James Andrews & 2014 2nd rd'er (most likely late) for Hernandez & Gronk. We can start one surgeon and I was really weak at that position.

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Lost in all the hyperbole:

Hernandez was cooperative with police Tuesday night, sources told ABC News. The investigation is expected to continue through the week.

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TMZ now reporting Hernandez shot a guy in the face a few weeks back. This dude might a train wreck.

New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez was sued earlier this month for allegedly shooting a man in the face following an altercation at a Miami strip club ... TMZ has learned.

The lawsuit was filed in federal court in Florida on June 13 -- five days before investigators searched the NFL star's Massachusetts home in connection with a homicide investigation that appears to be unrelated.

According to the lawsuit, obtained by TMZ, Hernandez and Alexander S. Bradley went to Tootsie's Cabaret in Miami on February 13, 2013 ... and during the outing, the two men got into an argument.

Bradley claims ... After the dispute, both men left the club -- and got into the same car which was heading to Palm Beach. During the ride, Aaron allegedly aimed his weapon at Bradley ... and the gun discharged, striking Bradley in the face.

Bradley claims he suffered major injuries from the gunshot ... including the loss of his right eye.

Bradley also claimed he required major surgery to reconstruct his face ... which required plates and screws. Bradley also claims he suffered damage to his right hand and arm, which also required surgery.

There's more -- Bradley claims Aaron was not licensed to carry a firearm in the first place.

Bradley demanded more than $100,000.

But just 4 days after Bradley filed the lawsuit, the case was DISMISSED ... and all signs point to settlement.

We reached out to Aaron's people for comment -- so far, no word back.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/19/aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-lawsuit-gun-shooting-miami-strip-club/#c6636906

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Hernandez's girlfriends sister is getting beat by her boyfriend. Hernandez puts out the hit to his lackeys to take care of the problem.

Problem solved, except he didn't plan it out well and now he's risking 25 to life.

I'm dumping him in all my dynasties to anyone who believes in his innocence.

If that is the case he hired some of the worst hitmen ever.

Can you imagine them saying this: "No worries Aaron we dumped the body and rental car almost a mile away. Do you mind if he crash here for a while?"

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Hernandez's girlfriends sister is getting beat by her boyfriend. Hernandez puts out the hit to his lackeys to take care of the problem.

Problem solved, except he didn't plan it out well and now he's risking 25 to life.

I'm dumping him in all my dynasties to anyone who believes in his innocence.

Shick, right?

Not cheap, but i will be trying to sell to those who aren't discounting him much.

His girlfriends sister's boyfriend dies execution style less then a mile from his house. Even if he didn't pull the trigger there is no way he doesn't know what happened. There is a good chance he knew beforehand something was going to happen even if he wasn't the one who put out the hit.

90% chance he knows what/how it happened

75% chance he knew what was going to happen before it went down

50% chance he was directly involved

This is a bad situation.

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If smoking some weed means you have character concerns then this whole world is in the crapper.

Drug users probably think that everyone in the world smokes weed. Well, here's a wake-up call, ghost, they don't. Drug use is a huge character flaw whether they are an athlete or not.

Besides, I would already argue that the world is in the crapper. Hell, we've got a sitting president who has admitted to using cocaine. And Dubya reportedly also used drugs. Not to mention Clinton, although he never inhaled (yeah right). Ridiculous world we live in that this kind of thing is brushed aside for the most powerful job in the world, let alone everyday people.

Not everyone, just ALMOST everyone. I don't smoke anything, but everyone I know does. Everyone they know does, and everyone I have ever talked to tells me that almost everyone they know does. Wake up

Wow, that's a pretty terrible crowd you run with. Time to find a better group of friends.

Otherwise, you're going to end up being questioned about your rental car and dead buddy.

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I picked up Ballard this off-season as a hedge against Gronk's injury, now I might have the starting TE, in a TE friendly offense...

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If smoking some weed means you have character concerns then this whole world is in the crapper.

Drug users probably think that everyone in the world smokes weed. Well, here's a wake-up call, ghost, they don't. Drug use is a huge character flaw whether they are an athlete or not.

Besides, I would already argue that the world is in the crapper. Hell, we've got a sitting president who has admitted to using cocaine. And Dubya reportedly also used drugs. Not to mention Clinton, although he never inhaled (yeah right). Ridiculous world we live in that this kind of thing is brushed aside for the most powerful job in the world, let alone everyday people.

I personally don't smoke weed, but only because I never liked the effect it had on me. But I, as well as you, know plenty of people who do, and describing it as a character flaw is ridiculous. There's really no difference between weed and booze. Do you think people who drink have character flaws too? There's a reason two states have legalized it, and many others decriminalized it. It will eventually be legal in every state.

You're really over-reacting about this.

ETA - If you ruled out any presidents who never tried drugs when they were younger, you would have a very small pool of candidates to choose from.

I am sorry, but this is just silly. Most of the people in this thread trying to use this as the basis for it not being a character flaw are missing one MAJOR point.

It is indicative as a character flaw not because smoking marijuana is morally wrong, but because it is illegal. Whether or not you (or Aaron Hernandez) agrees with the law or thinks it's silly, or will be changed in the future is irrelevant. Hernandez was "mysteriously" held out of parts of games in college (read: unofficially suspended) and had, according to reports, multiple positive tests for marijuana while playing at Florida. Again, the point NOT being marijuana, but his continual disregard for the rules, despite knowing the consequences on his playing time.

It is not a character concern because it is immoral, it is a character concern because, despite it being illegal and a detriment to playing time, he has done it anyway.

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There is no way that TMZ article is totally accurate, right?

Hernandez shoots a guy in the face and he loses an EYE and only asked for "more than $100k"?!

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There is no way that TMZ article is totally accurate, right?

Hernandez shoots a guy in the face and he loses an EYE and only asked for "more than $100k"?!

I'm sure the other guy had it coming. Hernandez is a good guy, after all. Or, maybe, to that particular guy, $100k would set him up good by his definition, so he was cool with it. :shrug:

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There is no way that TMZ article is totally accurate, right?

Hernandez shoots a guy in the face and he loses an EYE and only asked for "more than $100k"?!

With no police report? I don't buy it.

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There is no way that TMZ article is totally accurate, right?

Hernandez shoots a guy in the face and he loses an EYE and only asked for "more than $100k"?!

With no police report? I don't buy it.

Now seeing this "other shooting" being reported in a few different places. Wow things are going downhill fast!!!

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I have a feeling this isn't going to be a Ray Lewis ending

yeah... I don't see the Patriots winning another Super Bowl

and

I doubt Hernandez turns into a preacher on the field

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There is no way that TMZ article is totally accurate, right?

Hernandez shoots a guy in the face and he loses an EYE and only asked for "more than $100k"?!

The demand could have just been made to fulfill the jurisdictional requirements of the court where the suit was brought (i.e Plaintiff demands an amount no less than $100,000..."

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I read an article somewhere in April about the other shooting, I'll try and dig it up

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The update to the TMZ report

Sources connected to the case tell us ... Bradley's legal team only dismissed the case because there was an error in the paperwork ... and they FULLY plan to REFILE the lawsuit TODAY.

We're also told ... Bradley will argue that the bullet initially struck him in the arm and continued traveling through his body until it struck him in the face .... blowing out his eyeball.

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Sirius NFL reported that Hernandez was very uncooperative with authorities. He immediately lawyered up and the police had to get a search warrant to search his house.

nothing wrong w/ that

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The update to the TMZ report

Sources connected to the case tell us ... Bradley's legal team only dismissed the case because there was an error in the paperwork ... and they FULLY plan to REFILE the lawsuit TODAY.

We're also told ... Bradley will argue that the bullet initially struck him in the arm and continued traveling through his body until it struck him in the face .... blowing out his eyeball.

Magic Bullet II: Electric Boogaloo

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Report: Aaron Hernandez's house searched by police

By Dan Hanzus

Around the League Writer

Police in Massachusetts want to question New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez regarding the investigation of a possible homicide near the tight end's home in North Attleboro, Mass., ABC News reported Tuesday.

Citing an unnamed source, SI.com reported that Hernandez was not believed to be a suspect, but a vehicle rented in his name appears to be a key piece of evidence.

ABC News reported Wednesday that Hernandez was cooperative with police Tuesday night. The ABC News report also cited unnamed sources. SI.com later reported that police searched Hernandez's home Tuesday night, and two men were escorted from the scene separately, but they were not in handcuffs.

The homicide being investigated involves a body found about 5:30 p.m. Monday night in North Attleboro, according to the Bristol County District Attorney's Office. Prosecutors released no other information Tuesday night about the investigation.

When asked specifically about Hernandez, Yasmina Serdarevic, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, told NFL.com on Wednesday morning: "At this time, this office is not releasing any additional information with respect to the investigation into the body found Monday evening in North Attleboro."

Patriots spokesman Stacey James told ABC News: "I am aware of the reports, but I do not anticipate that we will be commenting publicly during an ongoing police investigation."

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday morning that the league would have no comment on the investigation.

A fourth-round pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, Hernandez has emerged as one of Tom Brady's favorite weapons. Hernandez will be even more vital to New England's offense if Rob Gronkowski is forced to miss time in the regular season after undergoing back surgery Tuesday.

Hernandez signed a seven-year, $41.1 million contract extension with the Patriots in August 2012.

UPDATE: The Associated Press reported Wednesday morning that Massachusetts State Police returned to Hernandez's home. Two troopers knocked at his door Wednesday morning in North Attleborough, Mass., but no one answered, according to The AP.

Follow Dan Hanzus on Twitter @DanHanzus.

for reals? While I disagree that smoking pot is a character flaw, shooting someone in the face seems flawed. morally or otherwise.

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I'm dumping him in all my dynasties to anyone who believes in his innocence.

I'll send you a 2014 3rd and a 5th

Not for peanuts, for those who don't devalue him at all they will gladly pay a future 1st + 2nd.

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BREAKING: Law enforcement sources tell @karenreports that troopers found a gun in North Attleboro in the area where body was found.#wbz

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OK, I'm officially spooked. The dude suing Hernandez is represented by David Jaroslawicz. That's the same lawyer who is representing Tony Parker in his suit against that NYC nightclub. He's the real deal.

Abandon ship....

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I'm dumping him in all my dynasties to anyone who believes in his innocence.

I'll send you a 2014 3rd and a 5th

Not for peanuts, for those who don't devalue him at all they will gladly pay a future 1st + 2nd.

Come on man he just caught a homicide.

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