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WR Keenan Allen, CHI (2 Viewers)
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Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Johnson always dinged up though.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Exactly. You dont just take Allens points and spread them around. Doesnt work that way.
I think Floyd and Woodhead see the biggest bumps though probably not all that much of one. Some of the other guys who will see a bump still wont be fantasy relevant
I think Floyd and Woodhead see the biggest bumps though probably not all that much of one. Some of the other guys who will see a bump still wont be fantasy relevant
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Van Dyman
Footballguy
Organ damage? Not necessarily. But he seemed more than willing to risk his body to bring in every possible catch. Not sure he's built for that type of play.
There's a very fine line there. If you aren't willing to do everything to win, you're Ted Ginn.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
https://instagram.com/p/9oPNxwscVu/
Even more impressive is that he made the catch wearing rubber dish washing gloves.
Even more impressive is that he made the catch wearing rubber dish washing gloves.
Shutout
Footballguy
Try losing 3 of those guys on one team. My "Power" structure currently looks like that TV show "Revolution".
Adam Harstad
Moderator
If you believed that before he lacerated his kidney, then continue doing so. If you didn't believe that before he lacerated his kidney, then continue not doing so. The kidney laceration is the ultimate fluke and shouldn't be used as evidence of anything.
It's like Gronk's surgical infections. They're not really evidence of anything except that things that have a small chance of happening will happen a small percentage of the time.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Don't forget Smith Sr. He was averaging 1 ppg less than Allen even though he got knocked out early in 2 of his 7 games. Losing Foster and Smith back to back sucks bad. My best team now in scramble mode.
OU#1
Footballguy
So there is no way he's coming back right? Officially to IR? CBS is reporting nothing. He's no longer in the Top 200 going forward.
Waivers running in like 30 mins. Would be nice to know something official.
No wishful thinking here, just don't' want to drop a guy who might come back for FF playoffs.
Waivers running in like 30 mins. Would be nice to know something official.
No wishful thinking here, just don't' want to drop a guy who might come back for FF playoffs.
Penguin
Footballguy
OU#1
Footballguy
In one of my leagues, I had all four of these guys...Don't forget Smith Sr. He was averaging 1 ppg less than Allen even though he got knocked out early in 2 of his 7 games. Losing Foster and Smith back to back sucks bad. My best team now in scramble mode.
Tau837
Footballguy
It was a poor decision IMO. The Chargers have been carrying guys like Donald Brown and Tourek Williams on the roster all season, and each has been inactive and has not played a snap. They just put Williams and Branden Oliver on IR and thus both of those inactive spots opened up. Plus, they just cut Jacoby Jones, which opened up another spot.zamboni said:
IMO they should have kept the door open for Allen to play. Obviously, they should have acted in the interest of his long term health in ultimately deciding if he would play again in the last few games, but there was no reason to eliminate that possibility now.
It is obvious the Chargers are out of the playoff chase, but does that mean the team should not continue to try to put its best players on the field to win as many games as possible?
Adam Harstad
Moderator
Agreed. To say nothing of the fact that, if San Diego is throwing in the towel on the season and evaluating / developing their youth, you'd think that the 23-year-old Keenan Allen on his cost-controlled rookie contract would be a part of that process.It was a poor decision IMO. The Chargers have been carrying guys like Donald Brown and Tourek Williams on the roster all season, and each has been inactive and has not played a snap. They just put Williams and Branden Oliver on IR and thus both of those inactive spots opened up. Plus, they just cut Jacoby Jones, which opened up another spot.zamboni said:
IMO they should have kept the door open for Allen to play. Obviously, they should have acted in the interest of his long term health in ultimately deciding if he would play again in the last few games, but there was no reason to eliminate that possibility now.
It is obvious the Chargers are out of the playoff chase, but does that mean the team should not continue to try to put its best players on the field to win as many games as possible?
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Gotta agree with this. Huge middle finger to their fanbase.It was a poor decision IMO. The Chargers have been carrying guys like Donald Brown and Tourek Williams on the roster all season, and each has been inactive and has not played a snap. They just put Williams and Branden Oliver on IR and thus both of those inactive spots opened up. Plus, they just cut Jacoby Jones, which opened up another spot.zamboni said:
IMO they should have kept the door open for Allen to play. Obviously, they should have acted in the interest of his long term health in ultimately deciding if he would play again in the last few games, but there was no reason to eliminate that possibility now.
It is obvious the Chargers are out of the playoff chase, but does that mean the team should not continue to try to put its best players on the field to win as many games as possible?
Tau837
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
By definition, ready to play means he would not be at elevated risk for further serious injury. The game shape issue is a red herring.
1. If the report is correct that he could be ready to play after 6 weeks, there is no question that the Chargers' chance of winning is improved if he is active. Period.
2. If the report is not correct, e.g., if it is a given that he could not be ready to play for 8+ weeks, that is different. The timing matters.
3. If the timing is uncertain, then #1 remains in play, and that should guide the decision.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah it's a big F U to the fanbase.................until next year when all the fans are super happy they held him out and he is killing it again next year rather than being rushed back for a couple meaningless games. Then it is a big WOOHOOO for the fanbase.
Tau837
Footballguy
If he could have been ready to play without risk of further serious injury, it's the wrong move.
Anyone who disagrees should be in favor of benching Rivers the rest of the year rather than continuing to let him take a beating behind that horrible OL. That would be better for next year, too. Same for Stevie Johnson, who is playing at less than 100%... sit him. Gates and Green are both banged up... sit them. And most of the starting OL have been hurt and trying to play through it... sit them and let them heal up for next season.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Funny thing is, that COULD happen and fans will still be happy as hell and forget all about it when they come back all healthy and win next year. Fans would just be upset right now.If he could have been ready to play without risk of further serious injury, it's the wrong move.
Anyone who disagrees should be in favor of benching Rivers the rest of the year rather than continuing to let him take a beating behind that horrible OL. That would be better for next year, too. Same for Stevie Johnson, who is playing at less than 100%... sit him. Gates and Green are both banged up... sit them. And most of the starting OL have been hurt and trying to play through it... sit them and let them heal up for next season.
Your example is rather extreme though.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Dedfin
Footballguy
ponchsox
Footballguy
The crying was a lot more than physical pain. His NFL career is crumbling and he's a gifted athelete. Just very sad.
IanRapoportVerified account @RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago
Based on initial tests,#Chargers believe WR Keenan Allen has suffered a major knee injury. They suspect an ACL tear. Will have more tests
Based on initial tests,
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The look of Keenan Allen crying on the cart as he was being hauled off the field is the reason my stomach churns on FF. I don't own him but I feel so awful for owners who believed he could learn to play within his body's limitations which I feel like he has exhibited a couple times does have its limits but to see him so fired up and pumped up to be back and then to watch this was heartbreaking.
It looks so bad, season ending as Scott Hansen reports...ACL tear
It looks so bad, season ending as Scott Hansen reports...ACL tear
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Never post again.gethugefast1 said:
Oh, come on! He's had a fluke broken shoulder and an even flukier ruptured kidney.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm saying he cannot go 10 receptions per game which is what SD tries to milk him for.
I don't want to fight. I'll back off, owners are hurting, there's no reason to exacerbate it or make them feel worse. I say just grab one of the guys likely to continue on like Wallace in Baltimore, need very few targets targets to produce there IMHO.
If I offended you Tang, forgive me, thank you.
No offense taken. I would just like to know how you correlate 1-in-1000 injuries with him having an injury prone body.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I traded for him recently. I gave up T. Eiferrt and 2017 1st (early) for K. Allen and a 2017 3rd (early)
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I decided to aim for a new window next year and dealt DT for Keenan straight up. Then of course I won two games in a row and still have a pretty good roster, so I might look to flip him again and change direction. We'll see.
