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The war in Syria (2 Viewers)

The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

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Are we really "going to war" with them, or are we just going to pulverize them with a bunch of remote control airplanes?

At least Miley is doing something different and unique, unlike our leadership which always finds a way to spend money blowing up the middle east.

 
If one of your immediate reactions to an event is to defend your party and bash the other rather than just discuss the issue, you're a hack. You might be well-read and intelligent, but you're a hack.
One of my immediate reactions is usually to bash whichever party is a good target. Conveniently, many situations allow me to bash both parties.
Your just a hack with a wider net.
:hifive:

 
You would think that with everyone up in arms about chemical weapons over in Syria there would be more people in the United States up in arms about the chemicals in our food supply and our prescription medications. I guess if the delivery system is delicious there is no problem. Remember, the people that brought you Agent Orange are also the same people who are bringing you GMO grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes etc. I'm sure it's all on the up and up.
#1 Eat a twinkie and then breathe in some sarin gas. While you are lying on the floor, twitching, vomiting and defecating in your pants, you can think about the evil twinkie.

#2 There are chemicals in our food? The food itself is made of chemicals. Water is a chemical. Air is made of chemicals. Everything is a chemical. So just because you call something a chemical, that does not mean it is bad.
psssst..... I'm eating Doritos right now... will I glow in the dark?
You guys can be trite all you want. I'm just saying enjoy your Gatorade with fire ######ant as one of the ingredients. Enjoy your oranges spliced with frog genes. Enjoy your GMO wheat products with that little opiate called gliadin or the or the new allergies being generated by the new alpha amylases of modern wheat. Enjoy the glyphosate from your Round Up ready corn and soy products. We'll be seeing your posts shortly enough with titles like 'I have the big Casino' and 'My kid is all ###### up'.Carry on you big beautiful monkeys.
I think there are issues with the food in this country and there is a legitimate debate on that subject. It is is when you try to compare it chemical warfare that I see a disconnect. Also, I don't think there are that many Americans up in arms over the chemical weapons in Syria.

 
Of course what is happening is a tragedy for the people of Syria. But there are tragedies going on in the Congo, Ethiopia, Somalia too.

The question I have is: Will it be helpful for the US if Assad wins? NO.

Will it be helpful for the US if the rebels win? NO. Because the Al Qaida groups are better organized and will dominate the post Assad time.

Will it be helpful for the US if they keep fighting each other instead of focusing on making trouble for us? YES.

There's your answer.
No. IMO, stability is what would benefit us the most. Either a complete Assad victory or a complete rebel victory. Putting aside all moral considerations, stability means the price of world oil remains steady. Instability in that region threatens oil production, causes speculators to make the price go up, which in turn will affect our prices at the pump even though we don't get our oil directly from Iran. In the end, that's the name of the game.
One could make an argument that the higher oil prices go, the more profit incentive there is for businesses to invest in alternative energy R&D.

 
The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

It's always nice to know that we at the FFA share the priorities of the rest of America.
Are we really "going to war" with them, or are we just going to pulverize them with a bunch of remote control airplanes?At least Miley is doing something different and unique, unlike our leadership which always finds a way to spend money blowing up the middle east.
Now wake me up when we actually do blow up the Middle East.

 
The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

It's always nice to know that we at the FFA share the priorities of the rest of America.
Are we really "going to war" with them, or are we just going to pulverize them with a bunch of remote control airplanes?

At least Miley is doing something different and unique, unlike our leadership which always finds a way to spend money blowing up the middle east.
It isn't going to be drone strikes. This isn't picking off a couple guys in a 4x4 in the desert. Would we pulverize Syria? Yes. Does Syria have support from Iran and Russia? Yes. Would one or both them do something crazy like attack Israel? Maybe? If that happens, you could end up with something pretty nasty. Best case scenario, Russia and Iran say "f Syria", make a backdoor deal with Saudi Arabia and the West and let Syria crumble....worst case scenario World War 3. It will likely be much closer to the former than the latter, but this is not a situation to lightly dismiss.

Also, the only thing different and unique about Miley is that saggy ###. You don't see many pop stars looking that bad that young in the back.

 
The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

It's always nice to know that we at the FFA share the priorities of the rest of America.
There are three Syria threads on the first two pages with a combined 7700 views. Also, how are views counted? If I refresh and click into the thread ten times, is that ten separate views?

 
Of course what is happening is a tragedy for the people of Syria. But there are tragedies going on in the Congo, Ethiopia, Somalia too.

The question I have is: Will it be helpful for the US if Assad wins? NO.

Will it be helpful for the US if the rebels win? NO. Because the Al Qaida groups are better organized and will dominate the post Assad time.

Will it be helpful for the US if they keep fighting each other instead of focusing on making trouble for us? YES.

There's your answer.
No. IMO, stability is what would benefit us the most. Either a complete Assad victory or a complete rebel victory. Putting aside all moral considerations, stability means the price of world oil remains steady. Instability in that region threatens oil production, causes speculators to make the price go up, which in turn will affect our prices at the pump even though we don't get our oil directly from Iran. In the end, that's the name of the game.
No blood for oil?

 
Wait, you guys realize Bush isn't the one here about to pull the trigger, right?
Bush 2.0.

"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
Not really... to me, this indicates what a huge gap there is between the public's perception of the President's responsibilities, and what his actual responsibilities - and limitations - are once he assumes office. Things aren't as simple as most people would like to believe... just read this thread, where we go from hitting Syria to having complications with Iran and Russia to the President losing face and power worldwide because he cannot back up the perception of what he said a year ago. And if shutting down Gitmo were as easy as that, I have no doubt the 0 would have done it... I just don't think, as a candidate, he fully realized the domino effect involved in doing that... and neither did the voters.

 
Wait, you guys realize Bush isn't the one here about to pull the trigger, right?
Bush 2.0.

"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
Not really... to me, this indicates what a huge gap there is between the public's perception of the President's responsibilities, and what his actual responsibilities - and limitations - are once he assumes office. Things aren't as simple as most people would like to believe... just read this thread, where we go from hitting Syria to having complications with Iran and Russia to the President losing face and power worldwide because he cannot back up the perception of what he said a year ago. And if shutting down Gitmo were as easy as that, I have no doubt the 0 would have done it... I just don't think, as a candidate, he fully realized the domino effect involved in doing that... and neither did the voters.
That doesn't really separate how Obama is different from Bush.

 
Wait, you guys realize Bush isn't the one here about to pull the trigger, right?
Bush 2.0.

"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
Not really... to me, this indicates what a huge gap there is between the public's perception of the President's responsibilities, and what his actual responsibilities - and limitations - are once he assumes office. Things aren't as simple as most people would like to believe... just read this thread, where we go from hitting Syria to having complications with Iran and Russia to the President losing face and power worldwide because he cannot back up the perception of what he said a year ago. And if shutting down Gitmo were as easy as that, I have no doubt the 0 would have done it... I just don't think, as a candidate, he fully realized the domino effect involved in doing that... and neither did the voters.
That doesn't really separate how Obama is different from Bush.
In foreign relations.... I don't think there is a difference. The difference is in domestic policy.

 
Wait, you guys realize Bush isn't the one here about to pull the trigger, right?
Bush 2.0.

"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
Not really... to me, this indicates what a huge gap there is between the public's perception of the President's responsibilities, and what his actual responsibilities - and limitations - are once he assumes office. Things aren't as simple as most people would like to believe... just read this thread, where we go from hitting Syria to having complications with Iran and Russia to the President losing face and power worldwide because he cannot back up the perception of what he said a year ago. And if shutting down Gitmo were as easy as that, I have no doubt the 0 would have done it... I just don't think, as a candidate, he fully realized the domino effect involved in doing that... and neither did the voters.
That doesn't really separate how Obama is different from Bush.
In foreign relations.... I don't think there is a difference. The difference is in domestic policy.
"This time he wants you to have healthcare"

 
You would think that with everyone up in arms about chemical weapons over in Syria there would be more people in the United States up in arms about the chemicals in our food supply and our prescription medications. I guess if the delivery system is delicious there is no problem. Remember, the people that brought you Agent Orange are also the same people who are bringing you GMO grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes etc. I'm sure it's all on the up and up.
#1 Eat a twinkie and then breathe in some sarin gas. While you are lying on the floor, twitching, vomiting and defecating in your pants, you can think about the evil twinkie.

#2 There are chemicals in our food? The food itself is made of chemicals. Water is a chemical. Air is made of chemicals. Everything is a chemical. So just because you call something a chemical, that does not mean it is bad.
psssst..... I'm eating Doritos right now... will I glow in the dark?
You guys can be trite all you want. I'm just saying enjoy your Gatorade with fire ######ant as one of the ingredients. Enjoy your oranges spliced with frog genes. Enjoy your GMO wheat products with that little opiate called gliadin or the or the new allergies being generated by the new alpha amylases of modern wheat. Enjoy the glyphosate from your Round Up ready corn and soy products. We'll be seeing your posts shortly enough with titles like 'I have the big Casino' and 'My kid is all ###### up'.Carry on you big beautiful monkeys.
Aren't you the guy who welched on a bet?

 
http://swampland.time.com/2013/08/27/syria-intervention-would-reaffirm-obamas-biggest-flip-flop/

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat,” Obama told the Boston Globe.
As reported by NBC News, as a presidential candidate in 2007, now-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to impeach President George W. Bush if he unilaterally attacked Iran. “And I want to make it clear, I want it on the record, and I want to make it clear, if he does, as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and former chair of the Judiciary Committee, I will move to impeach him.”
 
Sometimes it makes sense to go to war. As a rule, I despise isolationism. Its stupid and simplistic, and doesn't work anyhow. The people who tout it want to close our borders and stop all foreign aid as well. Just dumb. We can't escape the world we live in and shouldn't want to.

That being said, each situation is different. Stupid to have a Monroe Doctrine or a Bush Doctrine- like Mike Tomlin always says, you gotta play situational football. In THIS situation, it seems like the cost of intervening is too high, based on the current knowledge that we have. That could change for me if Obama makes a reasonable argument I hadn't considered or if some new facts are revealed that put this in a different light. But for now it doesn't make any real sense, IMO.
James Monroe is stupid compared to Mike Tomlin. Hit the nail on the head, Tim.

 
The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

It's always nice to know that we at the FFA share the priorities of the rest of America.
Tim wants you to know he stands WITH America!

 
Wait, you guys realize Bush isn't the one here about to pull the trigger, right?
Bush 2.0.

"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
Not really... to me, this indicates what a huge gap there is between the public's perception of the President's responsibilities, and what his actual responsibilities - and limitations - are once he assumes office. Things aren't as simple as most people would like to believe... just read this thread, where we go from hitting Syria to having complications with Iran and Russia to the President losing face and power worldwide because he cannot back up the perception of what he said a year ago. And if shutting down Gitmo were as easy as that, I have no doubt the 0 would have done it... I just don't think, as a candidate, he fully realized the domino effect involved in doing that... and neither did the voters.
That doesn't really separate how Obama is different from Bush.
In foreign relations.... I don't think there is a difference. The difference is in domestic policy.
"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
:lmao:

 
Ilov80s said:
azgroover said:
timschochet said:
The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

It's always nice to know that we at the FFA share the priorities of the rest of America.
Are we really "going to war" with them, or are we just going to pulverize them with a bunch of remote control airplanes?

At least Miley is doing something different and unique, unlike our leadership which always finds a way to spend money blowing up the middle east.
It isn't going to be drone strikes. This isn't picking off a couple guys in a 4x4 in the desert. Would we pulverize Syria? Yes. Does Syria have support from Iran and Russia? Yes. Would one or both them do something crazy like attack Israel? Maybe? If that happens, you could end up with something pretty nasty. Best case scenario, Russia and Iran say "f Syria", make a backdoor deal with Saudi Arabia and the West and let Syria crumble....worst case scenario World War 3. It will likely be much closer to the former than the latter, but this is not a situation to lightly dismiss.

Also, the only thing different and unique about Miley is that saggy ###. You don't see many pop stars looking that bad that young in the back.
Sure, Putin is going thermo nuclear war over some lousy country like Syria. Be real.

 
Kumerica said:
Fennis said:
johnnycakes said:
Ilov80s said:
johnnycakes said:
Fennis said:
Mr.Pack said:
Wait, you guys realize Bush isn't the one here about to pull the trigger, right?
Bush 2.0.

"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
Not really... to me, this indicates what a huge gap there is between the public's perception of the President's responsibilities, and what his actual responsibilities - and limitations - are once he assumes office. Things aren't as simple as most people would like to believe... just read this thread, where we go from hitting Syria to having complications with Iran and Russia to the President losing face and power worldwide because he cannot back up the perception of what he said a year ago. And if shutting down Gitmo were as easy as that, I have no doubt the 0 would have done it... I just don't think, as a candidate, he fully realized the domino effect involved in doing that... and neither did the voters.
That doesn't really separate how Obama is different from Bush.
In foreign relations.... I don't think there is a difference. The difference is in domestic policy.
"This time he wants you to have healthcare"
:lmao:
:lmao: :lmao:

 
Ilov80s said:
azgroover said:
timschochet said:
The possibility of going to war with Syria has attracted 2,000 views.

Miley Cyrus looking like an idiot at the MTV Awards has attracted 4,500 views.

It's always nice to know that we at the FFA share the priorities of the rest of America.
Are we really "going to war" with them, or are we just going to pulverize them with a bunch of remote control airplanes?At least Miley is doing something different and unique, unlike our leadership which always finds a way to spend money blowing up the middle east.
It isn't going to be drone strikes. This isn't picking off a couple guys in a 4x4 in the desert. Would we pulverize Syria? Yes. Does Syria have support from Iran and Russia? Yes. Would one or both them do something crazy like attack Israel? Maybe? If that happens, you could end up with something pretty nasty. Best case scenario, Russia and Iran say "f Syria", make a backdoor deal with Saudi Arabia and the West and let Syria crumble....worst case scenario World War 3. It will likely be much closer to the former than the latter, but this is not a situation to lightly dismiss.

Also, the only thing different and unique about Miley is that saggy ###. You don't see many pop stars looking that bad that young in the back.
Sure, Putin is going thermo nuclear war over some lousy country like Syria. Be real.
No, but it's one of the more complex international situations the US has been involved in for quite some time IMO. Certainly more so than Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, or Somalia. The chances of this being a major international war are very slim. That said, the Serbs weren't much of a world cosideration when they killed Ferdinand. Nobody expected that to be anything more than a quick, unimportant military action between Serbs and Austria-Hungary. Different times, I know. Still, the Middle East is a extremely volatile and I think it is naive to always just assume every military action will be easy and that Russia/Iran will back down every time.

 
If we're going to have to go to war with Russia anyhow, why waste time with Syria or Iran?

Now, the easiest way to take to invade Russia is from Poland. We split our armed forces into 3 groups: one group heads north for St. Petersburg. One group heads down the Borodino road for Moscow. One group heads south for the Volga river.

It's still August. If we launch in a few days or so, we can conquer the whole country by November!

 
If we're going to have to go to war with Russia anyhow, why waste time with Syria or Iran?

Now, the easiest way to take to invade Russia is from Poland. We split our armed forces into 3 groups: one group heads north for St. Petersburg. One group heads down the Borodino road for Moscow. One group heads south for the Volga river.

It's still August. If we launch in a few days or so, we can conquer the whole country by November!
We better move fast before the winter comes.

 
Jihadists make up a large part of the opposition. Partly because they mobilise quickly and can bring in reinforcements from abroad. Interesting dilemma for Iran also, who to support

 
So is this serious or not? The day after the attack, Obama should have called Congress back. How is he going ahead with this without Congressional approval? Or is he going to wait until they are back in session?

 
In an odd turn of events, Al Qaeda is threatening to attack Syria over the chemical attacks. Such a messed up situation that we are about to fighting on the "same side" as AQ.

http://reut.rs/19MjV9X
Wait, if we are on the same side as the terrorists then doesn't that make us terrorists by association? And if we are terrorists shouldn't we be fighting ourselves?

I'm not sure if I should be singing "God Bless America" or if should be blowing up my house to get the 72 virgins.

 
johnnycakes said:
Ilov80s said:
Dr. Gobbler said:
You would think that with everyone up in arms about chemical weapons over in Syria there would be more people in the United States up in arms about the chemicals in our food supply and our prescription medications. I guess if the delivery system is delicious there is no problem. Remember, the people that brought you Agent Orange are also the same people who are bringing you GMO grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes etc. I'm sure it's all on the up and up.
#1 Eat a twinkie and then breathe in some sarin gas. While you are lying on the floor, twitching, vomiting and defecating in your pants, you can think about the evil twinkie.

#2 There are chemicals in our food? The food itself is made of chemicals. Water is a chemical. Air is made of chemicals. Everything is a chemical. So just because you call something a chemical, that does not mean it is bad.
psssst..... I'm eating Doritos right now... will I glow in the dark?
no, but cheetos will turn your #### orange

 
I was watching cable news last night and they said that an anonymous source from the White House said that we would begin the attack Thursday and it would last for 3 days. Assad wouldn't be targeted and it would only be to show that we mean business.

First off, why do people leak this crap (if it's true)??? Secondly, if we just spend 3 days to fire shots at places that won't make a difference, then why do it?

 
I was watching cable news last night and they said that an anonymous source from the White House said that we would begin the attack Thursday and it would last for 3 days. Assad wouldn't be targeted and it would only be to show that we mean business.

First off, why do people leak this crap (if it's true)??? Secondly, if we just spend 3 days to fire shots at places that won't make a difference, then why do it?
Starting a war on a holiday weekend and finishing it before everyone gets back from vacation down?

 
I was watching cable news last night and they said that an anonymous source from the White House said that we would begin the attack Thursday and it would last for 3 days. Assad wouldn't be targeted and it would only be to show that we mean business.

First off, why do people leak this crap (if it's true)??? Secondly, if we just spend 3 days to fire shots at places that won't make a difference, then why do it?
Starting a war on a holiday weekend and finishing it before everyone gets back from vacation down?
That would make sense if Labor Day was Friday.

 
In an odd turn of events, Al Qaeda is threatening to attack Syria over the chemical attacks. Such a messed up situation that we are about to fighting on the "same side" as AQ.

http://reut.rs/19MjV9X
Wait, if we are on the same side as the terrorists then doesn't that make us terrorists by association? And if we are terrorists shouldn't we be fighting ourselves?

I'm not sure if I should be singing "God Bless America" or if should be blowing up my house to get the 72 virgins.
You do both at the same time, but because this is the American version you get 72 Miley Cyruses.

 
I was watching cable news last night and they said that an anonymous source from the White House said that we would begin the attack Thursday and it would last for 3 days. Assad wouldn't be targeted and it would only be to show that we mean business.

First off, why do people leak this crap (if it's true)??? Secondly, if we just spend 3 days to fire shots at places that won't make a difference, then why do it?
[SIZE=10.5pt]what is your definition of making a difference? The goal of launching a bunch of cruise missiles over 2-3 days is not regime change.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Information like this is leaked to let the US public know what is going to happens so they are prepared and also to reduce civilian causalities. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]ETA: And sometimes it is just to act like a big shot for the press and show they are in the know.[/SIZE]

 
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I was watching cable news last night and they said that an anonymous source from the White House said that we would begin the attack Thursday and it would last for 3 days. Assad wouldn't be targeted and it would only be to show that we mean business.

First off, why do people leak this crap (if it's true)??? Secondly, if we just spend 3 days to fire shots at places that won't make a difference, then why do it?
[SIZE=10.5pt]what is your definition of making a difference? The goal of launching a bunch of cruise missiles over 2-3 days is not regime change.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Information like this is leaked to let the US public know what is going to happens so they are prepared and also to reduce civilian causalities. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]ETA: And sometimes it is just to act like a big shot for the press and show they are in the know.[/SIZE]
Yes. Because we know the bad guys will make sure to move innocent civilians out of harms way once they hear this.

 
I was watching cable news last night and they said that an anonymous source from the White House said that we would begin the attack Thursday and it would last for 3 days. Assad wouldn't be targeted and it would only be to show that we mean business.

First off, why do people leak this crap (if it's true)??? Secondly, if we just spend 3 days to fire shots at places that won't make a difference, then why do it?
[SIZE=10.5pt]what is your definition of making a difference? The goal of launching a bunch of cruise missiles over 2-3 days is not regime change.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Information like this is leaked to let the US public know what is going to happens so they are prepared and also to reduce civilian causalities. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]ETA: And sometimes it is just to act like a big shot for the press and show they are in the know.[/SIZE]
Yes. Because we know the bad guys will make sure to move innocent civilians out of harms way once they hear this.
Russia evacuated their citizens from Syria. I imagine Syrian civilians will do their best to avoid areas of military targets the best they can over the next few days.

 
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:wall:

I just don't understand why we are going to fire cruise missiles at Syria. What goal are we trying to accomplish? How will this help us, or help the world? I don't see it.

 
And I'd say the jury is still out on Libya. Still a lot of elections to run before there is a real political process and and democracy. Look at Egypt (although no cruise missiles involved), it might be closer to Syria than we'd like to think in what happens once there is a power vacuum. Granted, I personally think Syria is Egypt on PCP and steroids and it will be much worse there once Assad falls.

ETA: It's a lot worse there now, so maybe that is a statement from Cpt Obvious

 
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And I'd say the jury is still out on Libya.
Funny side story: When I was in Libya a few years back, one of the guys told me in private, "We hate Qaddafi. Please tell your government that we do not like having him in charge." Something to that extent. At the time, I thought, "Does this guy think I'm that powerful that I can persuade the U.S. government to make regime changes happen in other countries?" Fast forward a few years and boom goes the dynamite on Libya.

I like to think that somewhere on the outskirts of Tripoli there's a statue of me and a holiday in my name.

 
The Obama’s administrations goal in Syria is to show Assad and future dictators in ohter countires, that they cant use WMDs without consequences. Nothing more, nothing less.

 
Tomahawks run about $1.45M each these days.

  • 161 were used in Libya
  • Gulf War II - 725
  • Enduring Freedom - 50
  • Yugoslavia (1999) - 218
  • Operation Desert Fox (Iraq - 1998) - 325
  • Afghanistan/Sudan (1998) - 75 in retaliation to Al-Qaeda embassy bombings
  • Serbia - 13
  • Desert Storm - 288, another 23 two years later, and 44 three years after that
In all we've fired almost 2,000 cruise missiles over the last quarter century.

Over/under on how many we can launch in three days? Any Aegis class destroyer in the area carries 56 each. The USN has about 3,500 of these worldwide, not sure how many are currently deployed in the Sixth Fleet. Plus all the B-52s out of Diego Garcia or a number of other locations.

Grab a snickers.

 
Cliff Clavin said:
Dr. Gobbler said:
johnnycakes said:
Ilov80s said:
Dr. Gobbler said:
You would think that with everyone up in arms about chemical weapons over in Syria there would be more people in the United States up in arms about the chemicals in our food supply and our prescription medications. I guess if the delivery system is delicious there is no problem. Remember, the people that brought you Agent Orange are also the same people who are bringing you GMO grains, fruits, vegetables, legumes etc. I'm sure it's all on the up and up.
#1 Eat a twinkie and then breathe in some sarin gas. While you are lying on the floor, twitching, vomiting and defecating in your pants, you can think about the evil twinkie.

#2 There are chemicals in our food? The food itself is made of chemicals. Water is a chemical. Air is made of chemicals. Everything is a chemical. So just because you call something a chemical, that does not mean it is bad.
psssst..... I'm eating Doritos right now... will I glow in the dark?
You guys can be trite all you want. I'm just saying enjoy your Gatorade with fire ######ant as one of the ingredients. Enjoy your oranges spliced with frog genes. Enjoy your GMO wheat products with that little opiate called gliadin or the or the new allergies being generated by the new alpha amylases of modern wheat. Enjoy the glyphosate from your Round Up ready corn and soy products. We'll be seeing your posts shortly enough with titles like 'I have the big Casino' and 'My kid is all ###### up'.Carry on you big beautiful monkeys.
Aren't you the guy who welched on a bet?
Worse than any of the other offenses to humanity he listed.

 
Tomahawks run about $1.45M each these days.

  • 161 were used in Libya
  • Gulf War II - 725
  • Enduring Freedom - 50
  • Yugoslavia (1999) - 218
  • Operation Desert Fox (Iraq - 1998) - 325
  • Afghanistan/Sudan (1998) - 75 in retaliation to Al-Qaeda embassy bombings
  • Serbia - 13
  • Desert Storm - 288, another 23 two years later, and 44 three years after that
In all we've fired almost 2,000 cruise missiles over the last quarter century.

Over/under on how many we can launch in three days? Any Aegis class destroyer in the area carries 56 each. The USN has about 3,500 of these worldwide, not sure how many are currently deployed in the Sixth Fleet. Plus all the B-52s out of Diego Garcia or a number of other locations.

Grab a snickers.
[SIZE=10.5pt]We could vaccinate a whole lot of third world children for the price. [/SIZE]

 

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