Interseptopus
Footballguy
Yeah I feel like Cook is such an underrated commodity right now. I expected him to be $14 in the subscriber contest. I actually may try to trade Engram in my redraft league and snag Cook instead off the WW
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Jared Cook - What to expect? (2 Viewers)
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
Cook should have a year similar to last year and that isn't a bad thing for his owners. He will probably not win you leagues but he is not going to lose them for you either.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Gruden is a fan. I think he's proving to be the best option is the passing game almost by default.
daveR
Footballguy
IMO, you have to figure out Gruden's game plan for the week. The numbers will fluctuate for that reason. Are you willing to accept season-long production, or do you want to win your weekly match-up?
Birdie048
Footballguy
Cook signed with NOS. Rotoworld Link
Saints signed TE Jared Cook, formerly of the Raiders.
The deal is not yet official, but both ProFootballTalk and NFL Network have reported it is going to happen. Cook set career-highs last season with the Raiders and will now play a prime role in a Drew Brees-led offense. Saints tight ends have mostly disappointed since Jimmy Graham left for Seattle, but Cook will be a good bet for a TE1 campaign.
Saints signed TE Jared Cook, formerly of the Raiders.
The deal is not yet official, but both ProFootballTalk and NFL Network have reported it is going to happen. Cook set career-highs last season with the Raiders and will now play a prime role in a Drew Brees-led offense. Saints tight ends have mostly disappointed since Jimmy Graham left for Seattle, but Cook will be a good bet for a TE1 campaign.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Birdie048
Footballguy
My projection is TE 8-9 range based on TD's
Kelce will still be top dog followed by Kittle & Ertz. Depends on how Engram does without OBJ & if Enbron continues his efforts.
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trader jake
Footballguy
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Jared cook, what to expect- someone will overpay for him somewhere.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I am not a fan of Cook at all.
However my main problem with him has been his low catch rate, which is an area where he has improved a lot the last two seasons.
I project Cook to have 90 targets 58 receptions 742 yards 3 TD which is 150 points in PPR which would have finished as TE 7 last year.
As Anarchy and Birdie point out in the other thread Cook needs more TD to compete with the top TE. He had 6 TD last year which allowed him to finish as TE 5 last season. 6 TD was a career high for Cook.
Cook has 425 career receptions at this point yet only 25 TD.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
While I agree TD is the hardest thing to predict and being with Brees could be an upgrade in that regard. You also have a long career of Cook to look at and he hasn't scored much.hispeedthinmint said:
He does seem to be aging well though as he has been better since leaving the Rams and Jeff Fisher. Not really a surprise there.
The biggest blemish on his recent performance was with the Packers. He was hurt that year though.
DropKick
Footballguy
Suspect you''re looking for projections. My first take was that you were stating that New Orleans might be the best landing spot, which it well could be. I like the signing as a Brees owner and believe it to be ideal for Cook as well.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I'm not convinced there will be enough targets in NO for Cook to sniff his numbers from last year. Cook was a huge value in 2018 because he was drafted late and ended up leading the team in targets and receptions. This year you have to pay for his 2018 production plus the perception that he'll light it up in NO. Too expensive IMO.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
While Cook did have a career best last season in TDs targets and catch rate last year, being a clear case of regression to the mean if he had stayed with the Raiders the Saints are a better overall offense.
The Saints were 3rd in red zone opportunities last year. The Raiders were 27th.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
As far as targets he has placed for 80 to 100 the last 3 seasons. His targets were similarly high with the Rams before that.
They do not have Ingram.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
True about Ingram, but he only had 21 receptions last year. I suppose the upside people see in Cook with NO is Watson 2015, but they didn't have Kamara or Thomas. I guess we'll find out if the Saints transitioned away from TE because of the addition of Thomas and Kamara or if it's as simple as their TEs were trash. IF Cook somehow equals his totals from his Raiders years it will have to come at the expense of Kamara and Thomas. Those two combined for 2/3rds of Brees' total completions. I see Kamara's totals going up without Ingram, so perhaps Thomas sees a significant regression.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
The Saints were a very balanced offense last year and Ingram only played in 12 games. He averaged 10 rushing attempts per game.
While Murray is capable I dont think he is as good as Ingram. So the Saints may throw more than last year.
While Murray is capable I dont think he is as good as Ingram. So the Saints may throw more than last year.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Looking like a sell high
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Buy high. No WR taken in the draft. A couple potential UDFAs but that’s it. Brees needs this bad.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
joey
Footballguy
I’ll go by whatever the consensus ranking is when I draft since I don’t watch college football at all
It's difficult to draft TEs in FFPC dynasty leagues based on the nature of the setup. Yes, it's nice when you hit on a TE in the premium scoring, but the typical 2-3 years that rookie TEs take to develop isn't practical in a format like the FFPC, which is geared much more toward win-now strategies. (The buy-in is typically high enough that I don't want to waste it on a rebuilding year.) The 20-man rosters make every slot that much more valuable, and if you've spent a first-rounder on a non-producing rookie TE who's clogging your roster during bye weeks, it hurts. I've found it preferable to pluck a young TE with a third- or fourth-rounder during the rookie/vet draft, or try to trade for a second-year TE who another owner thinks is a "bust" because he wasn't productive during his rookie year.
joey
Footballguy
Totally agree. In fact I drafted rookie Hurst TE BAL late in last year's startup draft and he didn’t make my roster cut down this year. Might be double thinking things depending on who drops
Birdie048
Footballguy
Yeah, hard to put value on a Balt TE when Flacco is gone and Hurst showed little (inj). I expect Cook to be #3 target in NOS, but Tre'Quan or Kirkwood both could pass him for targets. They both had some good development, but they are needed to really show more for the Passing game to excel. Cook can open things up for them too.
Disclaimer: I own Cook, Hurst, Olsen and Njoku at TE.
As someone who drafted Cook years ago and Is currently still on my Dynasty roster, I will be looking to move him as soon as he shows any type of value where I can get the most for him..... With that being said, I been trying to do this since he was with GB.
Moral of the story is- if he’s depth for you, move him for something of need on your roster
if he is your starter, expect a few great games and a bunch of average to subpar numbers.
I hope he proves me wrong.
Moral of the story is- if he’s depth for you, move him for something of need on your roster
if he is your starter, expect a few great games and a bunch of average to subpar numbers.
I hope he proves me wrong.
saintfool
Dead sexy
i think of him more like Watson than Graham. he's not as athletic as JG even toward the end but the saints were able to get good numbers for Watson. in 2015, Watson had 74 receptions with NO. Watson wasn't much of a blocker either, like Cook. they can use Cook similarly and get good production.
He's been the 5th and 6th te off the board in my drafts this year...i'm not sure i'm seeing great value there
Birdie048
Footballguy
I agree, but I took him in Rnd 15 a few weeks ago (Start up 12 Team). He has been drawing moderate Trade interest, but nothing to meet my interest.... I have Njoku, Olsen & Hurst so I can wait and not worry.
If NOS opens some seam routes for Cook, I could see his TD numbers elevate some. "IF".... Big "IF".
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Jimmy Graham couldnt replicate his New Orleans self anywhere else. So theres a theory at least the same thing could happen to Cook in reverse order. Except not everybody is Jimmy Graham. Brees doesnt get anything amazing out of regular tight ends.
So, I mean, whatever.
So, I mean, whatever.
Birdie048
Footballguy
FBG Email post on Cook:
2. NO - TE Jared Cook's role to expand?
Source: The Times-Picayune - Luke Johnson
New Orleans Saints TE Jared Cook will be given the chance to show 'everything he can do' for the offense, according to tight ends coach Dan Campbell. 'The guy is over 30 and he still runs like the wind. He can absolutely smoke,' Campbell said. 'He's got 35-inch arms, he is long, and he is fast.'
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We've seen Cook finish as a top-5 fantasy tight end like he did last season for the Raiders. This is a much better passing game with the Saints, so projecting him for similar output is not outlandish. We like where he's going off the board right now. Cook has a current ADP of TE8 (6.10) in 12-team PPR leagues.
2. NO - TE Jared Cook's role to expand?
Source: The Times-Picayune - Luke Johnson
New Orleans Saints TE Jared Cook will be given the chance to show 'everything he can do' for the offense, according to tight ends coach Dan Campbell. 'The guy is over 30 and he still runs like the wind. He can absolutely smoke,' Campbell said. 'He's got 35-inch arms, he is long, and he is fast.'
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We've seen Cook finish as a top-5 fantasy tight end like he did last season for the Raiders. This is a much better passing game with the Saints, so projecting him for similar output is not outlandish. We like where he's going off the board right now. Cook has a current ADP of TE8 (6.10) in 12-team PPR leagues.
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