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WR DeSean Jackson (5 Viewers)
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skol asylum
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
need ya this week DeSean
I know you are playing vs Philly week 16 for sure, so come on!
I know you are playing vs Philly week 16 for sure, so come on!
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Me too...Josh Gordon is not going to sink another one of my teams.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
latest report was positive. Gotta roll him out there especially with mccoy playing too.
Jack White
Footballguy
I get up to 10 points for a long TD (60+ yards), so if he plays, he's in my lineup.
Faust
MVP
Redskins' DeSean Jackson: 'Naive' Eagles miss me
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000446357/article/redskins-desean-jackson-naive-eagles-miss-me
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000446357/article/redskins-desean-jackson-naive-eagles-miss-me
Faust
MVP
Redskins know they need more than DeSean Jackson to produce:
http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16471/redskins-know-they-need-more-than-desean-jackson-to-produce
http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16471/redskins-know-they-need-more-than-desean-jackson-to-produce
Insein
Footballguy
jurb26
Footballguy
He also missed a game and played injured in several others. Really, Jackson had an outstanding season despite some obsticles.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He was incredible for us. I never knew how many crazy contested/sideline catches he made but he's incredibly talented and underrated.
Insein
Footballguy
Would have loved to seen what he could have done next to Maclin last year but at least we have Riley Cooper.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
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deancheated
Footballguy
I remember a lot of people saying Jackson would behave year 1 with a new team, but might start showing the attitude/problems year 2...anyone still feel that way?
GoBirds
Footballguy
Clearly wasn't a difference maker, or are you counting moral victories? Not sure there were any of those either. But hey, the highlights on the deep ball were good.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
And? He's a really good player on a really bad team, WR isn't exactly a position that can carry an entire team. Our record would have been even worse without him.
You still sound butthurt. Which makes no sense, considering the Eagles are better than the Redskins right now even without DJax.
GoBirds
Footballguy
You just sound like a clown calling him underrated and what a big deal you made about him before last year......abound he did nothing to improve your record. He was supposed to be irreplaceable.....then Maclin exceeded his production. He is what he is....a great highlight.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He is underrated, and he is a really really good WR. That has nothing to do with being on a crap team. I'm hoping the QB play improves this year, personally.
Maclin exceeded his production this year due to targets. He and Desean had almost identical production when you look at Maclin's 2014 vs. Desean's 2013, except Jackson did it on 20 less targets.
If you compare THIS year, after leaving the WR-friendly Kelly offense Desean put up only 150 yards less than Maclin on 30 less catches and 50 less targets, with more competition for targets on a team that passed less.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Sounds like a lot of spin on the fact that DJax was outproduced by a guy coming off an ACL 1sy year playing in the system. So we make an excuse because Jax couldn't stay in the lineup? C'mon.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Are you even having the same conversation I am? Desean only missed one game due to injury. He was targeted less because he plays across from Garçon in an offense that passed less than the Eagles. Never mind the fact that he plays a different role and is more of a deep threat than Maclin--THAT ability is what makes him special. Maclin is more well-rounded.
I'm not even sure why we're talking about Maclin, except that you for some reason feel the need to compare the two. You weren't even in this conversation, all I said was that Desean had a very underrated year and is extremely talented. He was a lot of fun to watch on a team that had very few positive moments in 2014.
Insein
Footballguy
The real question is, will he even care. I see apathy setting in before disruption.
It's probably because you come across as like a crazy jilted ex-girlfriend when it comes to former Eagles.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Which others? I just love how you Skins fans acted like you got the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice last year and the Eagles would never recover. Then you sucked again.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Oh it happened. You sucked and will continue to suck.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Oh we totally suck, and probably will again under Gruden. Who knows after 2015.
I was referring to the rest of his post.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Are there Eagles fans here that actually know anything about football? Could you direct me towards them?
GoBirds
Footballguy
Sorry some reality got dropped on you, no need for the attacks on Eagle fans. Have another drink champ.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This thread is emabrassesing. It's like a bunch of 12 year old girls posting about some dude that left their favorite boy band.
daveR
Footballguy
True, LOL! (though I'm not sure emabrassesing is a word)Dr. Octopus said:
Anyway, somebody nailed it earlier. He's a really good player on a bad team. He can get deep, get open. That's all you can ask of a WR, except maybe blocking downfield. Does that qualify as a "difference maker"? Can a WR even BE a difference maker? Without a QB, I doubt it. Watch what happens to Maclin this year.
Adding a guy like him to my Browns WR corps make them perfect, provided we came up with someone to throw him the ball.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yes, you fall in that category. Thank you. Are these clowns in this thread in any way representative of how Eagles fans feel?
Deamon
Footballguy
No they aren't representative. There doesn't seem to be a point in pushing and arguing the fact that the skins suck, especially when the person they are arguing with is agreeing with them. That isn't the point of the discussion.
I do feel that in the Jackson thread, there WERE many skins fans laughing at Philly for letting him go, and acting like he was going to improve their team a great deal... perhaps even being a better team then Philly... and that we couldn't replace him. Both of those were proven wrong, and I think their comments stem from being ridiculed for the move, which really didn't hurt us, and didn't help you a GREAT deal (may have ended up with 2-3 wins without him, and a better draft pick). But they're arguing with nobody really as you aren't debating those things. I think he had a great season, and is for sure talented, but his stats may have been a bit over inflated by some bomb tds that didn't improve the team in the win column. With better QB play going forward though, he could take the team to the next level, or at least keep them out of the bottom level.
As for going forward, I think Insein was right about apathy being the issue, not disruption. I don't see him getting into any off the field issues, or being a locker room cancer. But he seems to lack motivation when he's not winning. Last year was his first year in Wash and he had a lot to prove (especially vs philly). He proved it all and had great numbers, but maybe his effort will die off a bit.... especially when it comes to blocking. He played 9 season at Cal and Philly... and only had a losing record ONCE in those 9 seasons. Unless the skins make the playoffs in the next 2 years, I'm wondering how happy he will be there, and motivated he will be to play there.
Insein
Footballguy
50/50
I'd say everyone has moved on from Desean but if given the opportunity to vent about him, half the fans would jump on it like above. Talk radio does it now and then.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Depends where you're setting the bar, I guess. I think he's the best deep threat in the NFL saddled with poor QBing on a bad team. There are dozens of WR's better than him at many things and he'd be WAY down my list of ideal WR talents ranked by well-roundedness...but purely talking about deep threats, he's #1. I don't think that's a homer call, and I think it's backed up by the stats and the tape. I think he's underrated because he doesn't just blow by people and catch wide open deep balls due to straight-line speed, he has great hands, has mostly outgrown the alligator arms going over the middle he had coming into the league, and is waaaay under-appreciated on contested balls.
I am not a skins fan. Quite the opposite. But you are really being kind of tool in this thread. Maybe you should reflect a little on whether you are really proud to be as rude to people as you have been in this thread. It's fantasy football talk. It's supposed to be fun for everyone.
GoBirds
Footballguy
You make some fair points and I agree with you as far as deep threat goes. I think I have a hard time fitting him in the underrated box after the monster year a couple years ago and all the hype before last year.
