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I think he might give a WR that much...if a WR comes out in his first 4 years doing this and is young.Phenomena said:
I could see them giving Jordy near $10M avg annually as long as it's backloaded and only for another three years. He's 29 and has one year left on his deal. So he'll be 30 and you're going to extend him near the top of WR money in his decline phase? I don't get it.
I have mentioned it before in a few other threads, but Cobb has to stay healthy and play out the year to get the kind of contract extension he wants. Three years of production under his belt, 25 for 375, 80 and 954 in 2012, and then last year was 31 for 433. No one pays big time money for those numbers. I think he is a big time player, but he could also be Amendola-like when it comes to injuries.
I see your point, but he shouldn't get paid for past results, anyway. Contracts are based on expected future production.
The Packers plan on giving him all he can handle this year in terms of targets. Cobb should be extremely happy with having a top 3 QB in the league and an opportunity to prove himself. A new contract will play out in the offseason depending on how he handles those targets this year.
Because what Jennings got was not much more money* and the Packers are the best situation a WR could ask for.
Depends on Jennings' personal priorities. Some guys would rather win, some care about individual accolades, some just want as much $$$ as they can get, some like the challenge of helping turn a team around, some base it off of where they want to live, etc. Saying Jennings definitely screwed up is way too strong IMO when we really can't ever know everything that went into his individual decision making process.
What I'm saying is that Jennings did not get more money by leaving. Had he renegotiated his contract during his final season in GB he would have made more there than he will with the Vikings. Now if he simply preferred living in Minnesota or liked the idea of turning the Vikings around then those are legitimate reasons to leave, money isn't.
Aaron Rodgers is a good reason for a guy looking for a future big payday to take less. He's a good reason for a guy who's already been paid but is chasing the promised land to take less. He's a terrible reason for a guy in Jordy's shoes to take less, unless he prefers the back of his football card to his family and his life.
I don't know who Vic is but I disagree for now. Is there a video breakdown that illustrates his point? What does it even mean that the balls were in areas where only Jordy could catch it? That he never outfought or outjumped a DB for a ball? Or just not on one of his "highlight reel" catches? Limiting it to highlight reel catches seems like an easy way to manipulate data to ignore most of the data set. How many of those highlight reel catches involved Jordy blowing past or putting double moves on #1 DBs to get wide open?
Interesting...would like to see the true structure of this. Surface gives him close to the 10 million per that he wanted. Guessing reality is its more like 8.
It's an extension though, so he's still making way below his worth this year and then the extension hits. I think it's around 8.5 per year averaged together. However, if his play drops off, they can release him in 2017 with no cap hit(so it appears).
With Bulaga, Raji, etc set to be free agents as well, I don't think Cobb will be back.
Yeah...I misread some things and looking at it...I would say then it will drop closer to a true 7-7.5 million per when we get all the details (as they always inflate the first reports based on the total they could earn if they meet everything).
Raj I has no bearing on this discussion. He will not be back. TT might have to make a difficult decision on Cobb vs bulaga. Easy call. Bulaga isn't remotely special.
Look at Aaron Rodgers, Clay Mathews, Sam Sheilds contracts
Well deserved. Nelson is hugely under-rated. He's top shelf -- the guy's production per target metrics have been insane for years.
Bulaga may be the only one of that group resigned.
Jennings severely damaged his exposure and his likeability, two things worth money. You notice he lost his Old Spice commercials, and is no longer sought out for sports shows. He is slipping from the national consciousness. His after football life, which could arise sooner than he thinks given his contract numbers and production, which are out of whack, will now depend on his intelligence rather than his associations. That is not a good place for Greg Jennings to be.
I know Raji had a poor 2013 season, but who else do they have to play the nose?
Who plays CB next year if the #2, #4, #5 are gone(that's if Heyward stays healthy)? Nose Tackle?
I'm just saying i'd invest in the OL before WR when they just resigned Nelson and drafted the 3 guys.
CB Shieds, Heyward, Hyde (not sure I see him sticking at S unless they do get rid of Burnett...they drafted HaHa for a reason).
Do you think Sherrod will command high dollar on any market next year?
I agree that Tramon is overpaid(paid on that 2010 run basically), but I see Heyward as more of a nickel guy(maybe i'm wrong).
What would make Sherrod come back?
Thanks for looking at the point of my post. I'm done putting in time to research this debate now.
Hard to look at the point of your post when you project something like 8 million to a guy like Bulaga.
In fairness, every Green Bay WR has insane production-per-target metrics. The top three receivers in fantasy points per target over the last three years are Jordy, Randall, and James Jones.
Bulaga is an underachiever and Raji, well he hit the market and didn't get any interest.c
lol what?
As an edit on Barclay...he may not be as cheap as I thought. Forgot that they are liking how they can move him around.
