Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
About an hour and six minutes after Schefter broke the news on twitter, I got an email forwarded to me by ponchsox. Some of you need to befriend those who get FBG breaking news emails. 
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The Trent Richardson Thread (1 Viewer)
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Warrior
Footballguy
Waivers processed this morning for most leagues. So the answer to your question is "almost everyone"Who still plays in leagues without blind blind bidding for waivers?About 30min after the news broke and these guys were added in all leagues.
Thanks for caring more about twitter followers than subscribers, FBG
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Yeah, the Colts doing this is pretty shocking to me. I don't think it's the worst deal in the world, but I don't think it was smart one (though, I agree, Richardson should put up nice numbers in Indy).
Browns were big winners though, imo.
I'd love to know how many NFL GMs would've made this deal in a similar circumstance. I can't imagine any of the better run teams would've done it. I feel certain Marty Hurney would've been among the more likely candidates to do it though. Al Davis would've jumped at the chance.
It's a great move to get the fans excited and tell them you want to win now, but well run teams don't have any need to make a bad trade to sell that message.
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What is blind blind bidding?
sharptongued1
Footballguy
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Fallerjw
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Pollard...stop.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You have to go all the way back to 2012 to find any (3) teams using a first round pick on a RB.
cstu
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Teams seem to be getting smarter about it, and they do tend to go lower than they used to. Like 2012, except for one of the most poorly run franchises burning the #3 pick on one.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
And there it is. You are a Bradshaw guy still chapped that he was released by the Giants. Now all your anti-Wilson posts make sense.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
If you want fast news, use twitter. Also, as a Richardson owner, I'm jacked.
Riversco
Footballguy
Got in late. Let's explore this theory. What if Browns owner Jimmy Haslam is in BIG trouble with the Feds. Like, they've got the dirt on him and he knows he is going to prison. The NFL has already decided to force Haslam to sell the team but not made it public yet. Typically when teams get sold, they have a fire sale, dumping all big contracts so the owner can save a few millions in his final year before selling the team.
Do the Colts pick up his salary now?
In this scenario, Joe Thomas and Joe Haden are probably also on the trading block as they cut salary all over the place.
Haslam ordering a fire sale and selling the team also explains why they are $25 million under the cap yet made the puzzling (at the time) move of letting Phil Dawson walk and not finding a replacement until the last second when they grabbed Cundiff cheap. Was that about saving money?
Browns fans feel bad now. Imagine if this is the first step towards selling the Browns to an ownership group in LA. Haslam promised to change the uniforms. Maybe as part of the move?
Do the Colts pick up his salary now?
In this scenario, Joe Thomas and Joe Haden are probably also on the trading block as they cut salary all over the place.
Haslam ordering a fire sale and selling the team also explains why they are $25 million under the cap yet made the puzzling (at the time) move of letting Phil Dawson walk and not finding a replacement until the last second when they grabbed Cundiff cheap. Was that about saving money?
Browns fans feel bad now. Imagine if this is the first step towards selling the Browns to an ownership group in LA. Haslam promised to change the uniforms. Maybe as part of the move?
sharptongued1
Footballguy
This is akin to going to McDonald's and ordering a value meal, not receiving fries, and (legitimately) complaining about not receiving fries, and some ##### in the dining room piping up about them having fries at Burger King.EHRMAHGERD said:
Banger
Footballguy
Not at all. The giants/TC obviously have issues with Wilson. I always just questioned whether or not TC trusted him. I wasnt as sure as so many were and so far I've been right. Don't hate Wilson at all, just posting about the situation the way I view it. I tried to trade for Wilson this week on the cheap. I just think Bradshaw>>>>>Jacobs/Scott and he knows the system (which is why the shell of a football player Jacobs was signed). Hijack over.Touchdown There said:
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Since rookie contracts are now fairly reasonable and last for only four to five years, wouldn't it make perfect sense to draft a top talent at RB and use him up? You can sign other positions that have a longer shelf life in free agency.Ace08 said:
Riversco
Footballguy
Another possibility is that just the legal bills Haslam is facing could force him to have a fire sale. Forbes article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/09/18/did-browns-trade-trent-richardson-because-of-haslams-legal-problems-at-pilot-flying-j/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/09/18/did-browns-trade-trent-richardson-because-of-haslams-legal-problems-at-pilot-flying-j/
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
No.Shutout said:
This is a huge upgrade for Richardson. In Cleveland, Trent was the only viable offensive weapon, and defenses knew that. Richardson had very little room to run. In Indy, Richardson is going to be startled at the huge running lanes he's going to see. Obviously, the Colts aren't going to revert to a grind it out running team. But we know that Indy wants to have a solid running game.
Richardson just went from being a wasted talent on a bad team to a fantastic offense that will use him early and often.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
This. If you're serious about fantasy football and not following Schefter on twitter (or even just Sirius XM Fantasy's twitter.. or Sigmund) then you're just going to have to accept that you're going to get the news late.Kool-Aid Larry said:
Even if you don't have a smartphone you can have a twitter and have limited important people like Schefter's tweets sent to you via SMS on your DUMBphone.
All of this is faster than someone who has to take the information and then craft an e-mail.
Warrior
Footballguy
Or buying an expensive steak dinner, receiving the steak over-cooked and nasty, and then some random schlub saying "You should be happy, you're eating steak!"
Well, I paid for medium rare. Just like I paid for "Breaking" news updates. Not outdated, cold, overcooked updates over an hour after they "broke"
I don't blame FBG for emailing us over an hour later. I blame them for spamming twitter about the trade for an hour before they bothered to let us know the deal-io.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Why can't I get a text message telling me to read my email. Way to go FBG.
Warrior
Footballguy
Emails take 30 seconds to craft. This took over an hour. Email itself isn't the problem.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
One of the most significant in-season NFL trades in the last 10 years, and you people are complaining that the news took too long to get to your e-mail inbox? Right.
Warrior
Footballguy
Touchdown There
Footballguy
spodog
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Is FBGtartar.com taken?
cstu
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Or like paying for for a subscription to a fantasy football site and expecting emails when there is breaking news. Good God we get you guys are pissed and probably should be, but enough with the lame ### food analogies and whose analogy can top the last. They are annoying, and I am on a diet and you are making me hungry!!!
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
6:08. That why I pay for VIP email alerts. Must be why some Level 1 subscribers haven't got theirs yet. LOL GUPPIESBroncoFreak_2K3 said:
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Here's my main question - how many picks do the Browns move up in the draft with their regular selection because of this move? True, they have another bullet in the chamber with that last first-round pick but it seemed like they were already heading towards a top-5 draft pick before the trade.
Unless they smartly lose to the Jags to secure #1 overall they are probably not gonna get Bridgewater if that's the guy they have their eye on. The Jags are not going to pass on a QB and aren't going to trade that pick away. I just don't see it.
Taking a moment to hear to think of teams that realistically could be in the same draft range. I don't think the Jets will be quite bad enough. I suppose it's possible that the win last week was the high point for the Raiders so maybe they finish behind the Browns. The Titans and Bills are better than them IMO. I can't see the Redskins or Eagles being below them - never mind the Giants. The Vikings are plausible, I guess, but everyone expects them to take it to the Browns this week. Perhaps this trade puts them beind the Vikes. The Bucs are disfunctional and drafted Glennon. The Panthers are better than their record. I suppose the Cards or Rams could've been tipped to be worse than the Browns before this trade.
Honestly, I think they were a top-5 picking team before this and a top-3 picking team afterwards. I don't think they are going to need that later 1st rounder as fodder to get one of the top QBs in this draft.
Ultimately the value is what can they get in late round 1 and is that really more useful than Richardson.
-QG
Unless they smartly lose to the Jags to secure #1 overall they are probably not gonna get Bridgewater if that's the guy they have their eye on. The Jags are not going to pass on a QB and aren't going to trade that pick away. I just don't see it.
Taking a moment to hear to think of teams that realistically could be in the same draft range. I don't think the Jets will be quite bad enough. I suppose it's possible that the win last week was the high point for the Raiders so maybe they finish behind the Browns. The Titans and Bills are better than them IMO. I can't see the Redskins or Eagles being below them - never mind the Giants. The Vikings are plausible, I guess, but everyone expects them to take it to the Browns this week. Perhaps this trade puts them beind the Vikes. The Bucs are disfunctional and drafted Glennon. The Panthers are better than their record. I suppose the Cards or Rams could've been tipped to be worse than the Browns before this trade.
Honestly, I think they were a top-5 picking team before this and a top-3 picking team afterwards. I don't think they are going to need that later 1st rounder as fodder to get one of the top QBs in this draft.
Ultimately the value is what can they get in late round 1 and is that really more useful than Richardson.
-QG
Billy Bats
Footballguy
madviking10
Footballguy
I still haven't received my "Ponder is still the suck" Breaking news e-mail. It has me very angry. 
pollardsvision
Footballguy
That's one way to go about it.
Or you could use the early rounds of the Draft to build those other positions that, unlike the RB position, are very difficult and crazy expensive to address in free-agency.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Don't know if Bridgewater is the next big thing, or not, but there's no doubt this deal is all about Cleveland getting a QB in round 1 in 2014. It's an indictment against Weedon, and I don't think it reflects positively or negatively on TRich.
Running an NFL franchise Rule#1: You can't fool yourself into believing that somehow/someway a sucky QB (as in Trent Dilfer) will lead you to the promised land. IT'S VERY, VERY UNLIKELY.
Running an NFL franchise Rule#1: You can't fool yourself into believing that somehow/someway a sucky QB (as in Trent Dilfer) will lead you to the promised land. IT'S VERY, VERY UNLIKELY.
Art_VanDalay
Footballguy
Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013 Cleveland Marlins! New Team Logo: "We're on Fire!"
pollardsvision
Footballguy
That would make sense, if real football was like fantasy football and the only value a player had related to how many yards and TD's they accrued with the ball in their hands.
It does sound like a lot view this trade from that angle, so the reaction's starting to make some sense.
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Canowupass
Footballguy
Is this real life?
Art_VanDalay
Footballguy
Oh and one more thing, people please stop whining about not getting emails and take responsibility a little for running your team(s). Twitter exploded around 6:30 tonight so if you had any presence there you couldn't help but notice it. Email is like waiting for Paul Revere to come tell you the Redcoats are coming! Had enough time to grab Obiwankannobe on waivers 14 minutes before 7pm for our blind bidding deadline. Just saying...FBG can't do everything for everyone and this was out of left field and struck everyone as fake at first. And btw, I am not even a subscriber here anymore just saying let's be reasonable about this folks!
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
Was just offered Cj2k and Fitzy for T-rich in PPR redraft. Might have to jump on it.
