I thought he was low on the facing of 8 men in the box?jah77 said:I see people downplaying Richardson...his YPC...but he was playing on an awful Cleveland team against D that were stacking the box against him ever week. This is a huge fail for the Cleveland org. It's got to be painful to be a Browns fan. My condolenses.
Does it matter? The Browns will do one of 2 things. A. They will pick the wrong guy. B They will pick the right guy and trade himSo which QB do the Browns want... Bridgewater, Mariotta, Hundley, or Boyd. Bridgewater looks to be the #1 QB prospect but Mariotta is interesting.
Posts like this really mislead people. Another regime did that. The current regime is going to go hell bent to make up for what they feel are major mistakes made by previous regime(s). This became really clear today.Good thing they used a 1st on a 29 year old QB last year. What a joke.So which QB do the Browns want... Bridgewater, Mariotta, Hundley, or Boyd. Bridgewater looks to be the #1 QB prospect but Mariotta is interesting.
so really they just cancelled a MAJOR screw up last year, at bestCall it what you like. It just shocking to me that anybody could think the Browns screwed up here.We get it. You're trolling. Give it a rest.Yeah, I expected more of the Colts.Pathetic franchise :X
Trent's a nice RB, but very few RB's are worth a 1st round pick.
Unless he slept with someone's wife?This trade is so unusual I think something happened behind closed doors.Not a good sign for Trent. 2 coaches who know a thing or two about rbs, 2 games into their tenure, cut ties.
Studs don't get traded two games into their second season.
Oh, and that other guy...LaDainian Tomlinson.@ChrisHansenNFL: Trent Richardson is in elite company...only three rookie RBs ever with 250+ carries and 3.6 ypc or less. (Ricky Williams, Errict Rhett)
Real life people drafted him third overall.Star plays aren't just given away. They saw a deal they couldn't pass up and it was for one draft pick. I'm thinking us fantasy guys had a much higher opinion of Trent then real life people.No, actually it reeks of something being really wrong with Weeden. Can't wait until the medical reports come out in a few days indicating he's gone for 8 games or more.This reeks of something being wrong with Richardson
This is as blatant a case of throwing in the towel as I've seen in a long time.
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Wasn't he complaining about a lack of touches?Unless he slept with someone's wife?This trade is so unusual I think something happened behind closed doors.Not a good sign for Trent. 2 coaches who know a thing or two about rbs, 2 games into their tenure, cut ties.
Studs don't get traded two games into their second season.
Jaguars are going to trade their QB to Cleveland for both of Cleveland's 1sts.Looks like the Browns have joined the battle, Jaguars - your move.
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Raiders did it before the season.this is waiving the white flag 2 games in though
that's pretty unprecedented, even jax is pretending they have a chance
Call it whatever regime you want but they have been consistently horrible for awhile. Typical Browns.Posts like this really mislead people. Another regime did that. The current regime is going to go hell bent to make up for what they feel are major mistakes made by previous regime(s). This became really clear today.Good thing they used a 1st on a 29 year old QB last year. What a joke.So which QB do the Browns want... Bridgewater, Mariotta, Hundley, or Boyd. Bridgewater looks to be the #1 QB prospect but Mariotta is interesting.
How much more blatant can they they be? Next thing you know Josh Gordon is going to test positive again for marijuana.this is waiving the white flag 2 games in though
that's pretty unprecedented, even jax is pretending they have a chance
I'd downgrade the whole offense personally. Less first downs, less possession time, less plays.What does this mean for Gordon and Cameron?
Yup. One of the cardinal rules I have learned after twenty years of fantasy football is that the Browns offense is like a giant lead weight tied around the neck of every skill player, reducing their effectiveness. Never depend on a Browns player in fantasy football (kicker excepted).jah77 said:I see people downplaying Richardson...his YPC...but he was playing on an awful Cleveland team against D that were stacking the box against him ever week. This is a huge fail for the Cleveland org. It's got to be painful to be a Browns fan. My condolenses.
completly agree.seems like the t-rich haters are jelly they dont have him. cause there is no way you can tell me its a downgrade for him to go to a better team better offense, easier schedule etc
they still have that zip-line they set up during the Super Bowl week?One thing is good for Trent: He waves bye bye to drab, dreary Cleveland, and says HELLO to.......oh.
Never mind.
Have you looked at the level of talent on that team? They would just spin their wheels if they cannot get a franchsie QB, which they don't have. Teams without franchise QB only compete if they for SBs if they have an epic defense. NFL network is explaining the same way I am.7 years from now? Trent is only 23. And with the offense they've been running its not like he's going to win them games and hurt their draft position on so few touches. They spent the 3 on him last year and only one year later trading him for a mid-to-late pick 2 drafts later, what a waste.I would rejoice. Richardson will be done by the time Cleveland is a winner. You don't build around a RB. You build around a QB. Now they have ammo if they don't have the #1 outright.I would riot if I was a Cleveland fan.
They are packing it in after week 2 and giving up on a season for some uncertain outcome hoping for a miracle savior in the draft that's more than 6 months from now. That may be fine for fantasy football but thats a big middle finger to the fanbase.
What you talkin about, Willis?there is no way I can believe Gogobananas can carry the load on that pitiful team, and mcgahee must be worthless if he hasn't gotten a job yet --- WHO IS CARRYING THE BALL??
I'm not asking for a stud -- just a body!
is it rainey??
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I assume sarcasm because he is not even a 2nd rounder at this point. Has a lot of things to work on."With the 21st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select...Joe Stave, QB Wisconsin."
That's no small thing.so really they just cancelled a MAJOR screw up last year, at bestCall it what you like. It just shocking to me that anybody could think the Browns screwed up here.We get it. You're trolling. Give it a rest.Yeah, I expected more of the Colts.Pathetic franchise :X
Trent's a nice RB, but very few RB's are worth a 1st round pick.
Great assumption.I assume sarcasm because he is not even a 2nd rounder at this point. Has a lot of things to work on."With the 21st pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select...Joe Stave, QB Wisconsin."
A lot of them are posting advice on Twitter right now.FBG asleep at the wheel here? Looking for fantasy advice and silence....
So are they waiving the white flag forever? They just traded a second year RB who they gave up a ton for. You don't make this kind of trade unless you are not satisfied with a players on field performance, chance to improve as a player, or attitude.this is waiving the white flag 2 games in though
that's pretty unprecedented, even jax is pretending they have a chance
No, not even close.Worst trade in history?
Tomlinson - 3.65 YPCRichardson - 3.56 YPCOh, and that other guy...LaDainian Tomlinson.@ChrisHansenNFL: Trent Richardson is in elite company...only three rookie RBs ever with 250+ carries and 3.6 ypc or less. (Ricky Williams, Errict Rhett)
I subscribe to FBGs. I don't subscribe to twitter.A lot of them are posting advice on Twitter right now.FBG asleep at the wheel here? Looking for fantasy advice and silence....
Pardon me for not being excellent...you're insane.Call it what you like. It just shocking to me that anybody could think the Browns screwed up here.
Trent's a nice RB, but very few RB's are worth a 1st round pick.
You are out of your mind. The Browns just gave up the 2014 season. You don't trade guys during week 2 for draft picks. You wait until the season is over and trade them. What do you sell your fan base on? What about the other 52 guys? What do you tell them? They don't care about the future of the franchise and 2014. A give up move that puts immense pressure on the young qb they draft, since they are clearly tanking the entire season to get one.It's not throwing in the towel. It's a brilliant trade for CLE and terrible one for IND. I knew Irsay had a big mouth, but I didn't realize he was this bad.How does a team throw in the towel after two weeks? Does this mean the injury to Weeden is worse than it seemed?
Oh I know trust me. And you can look at it however you want....just helping the uninformed.Call it whatever regime you want but they have been consistently horrible for awhile. Typical Browns.Posts like this really mislead people. Another regime did that. The current regime is going to go hell bent to make up for what they feel are major mistakes made by previous regime(s). This became really clear today.Good thing they used a 1st on a 29 year old QB last year. What a joke.So which QB do the Browns want... Bridgewater, Mariotta, Hundley, or Boyd. Bridgewater looks to be the #1 QB prospect but Mariotta is interesting.
You know I never actually ran the numbers on that and always went by PFR.Tomlinson - 3.65 YPCRichardson - 3.56 YPCOh, and that other guy...LaDainian Tomlinson.@ChrisHansenNFL: Trent Richardson is in elite company...only three rookie RBs ever with 250+ carries and 3.6 ypc or less. (Ricky Williams, Errict Rhett)
Rhett - 3.56 YPC
Williams - 3.49 YPC
Ron Dayne - 3.38 YPC (on 228 carries)
The Palmer trade isn't THAT bad since the Raiders were desperate for a QB.No, not even close.Worst trade in history?
Raiders dealing away a 2012 1st rounder and a 2013 2nd rounder for Carson Palmer, while Palmer was relaxing on the couch collecting money from the Bengals was way worse.
Cowboys trading away Herschel Walker and some leftover trash for three 1sts, three seconds, a third and a sixth, which netted them Emmit Smith, Darren Woodson and allowed the build a decade long dynasty at the expense of the Vikings. Way worse.
I think he's actually right about he 1st round pick part. It's not clear to me the Browns screwed up here from a team structure perspective. From a fan facing perspective they're really going to have to work to spin this and not take a big attendance/viewership hit this season.Pardon me for not being excellent...you're insane.Call it what you like. It just shocking to me that anybody could think the Browns screwed up here.
Trent's a nice RB, but very few RB's are worth a 1st round pick.
Disagree. After the season, Trent value to Indy goes down because he would be competeing with the entire RB rookie class.You are out of your mind. The Browns just have up the 2014 season. You don't trade guys during week 2 for draft picks. You wait until the season is over and trade them. What do you sell your fan base on? What about the other 52 guys? What do you tell them? They don't care about the future of the franchise and 2014.It's not throwing in the towel. It's a brilliant trade for CLE and terrible one for IND. I knew Irsay had a big mouth, but I didn't realize he was this bad.How does a team throw in the towel after two weeks? Does this mean the injury to Weeden is worse than it seemed?
A give up move that puts immense pressure on the young qb they draft, since they are clearly tanking the entire season to get one.
This just broke bro. It takes a certain level of production to get this stuff together. If you need to make a move, use your own abilities instead of waiting for someone to manage your teams for you. These sites are guides.I subscribe to FBGs. I don't subscribe to twitter.A lot of them are posting advice on Twitter right now.FBG asleep at the wheel here? Looking for fantasy advice and silence....
he might smoke a whole tree tonight to get out of clevelandHow much more blatant can they they be? Next thing you know Josh Gordon is going to test positive again for marijuana.this is waiving the white flag 2 games in though
that's pretty unprecedented, even jax is pretending they have a chance
On the other hand, if you can wait a year for Bridgewater...I'd downgrade the whole offense personally. Less first downs, less possession time, less plays.What does this mean for Gordon and Cameron?