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Vincent Brown - What Happened? (1 Viewer)
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
It's not over yet.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Short, thin, slow WRs are just about completely DOA entering the NFL. A few have gained tons of weight and had a decent year or two (Peerless Price) and a few have managed to be decent WR3s for a few years (Harry Douglas), but mostly they just have nothing to offer as WRs.
MavsXT
Footballguy
i was wondering the same thing. apparently he has the most (or nearly the most) targets on the team. rivers has been taking "what the defense gives him. the coach says his catches will come. i will hold onto him for now, but i would be lying if i said i wasn't disappointed at this juncture of the season!
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
He is slow and isn't quick. He can't get separation. I think the ankle injury sapped him. Cuttable in redraft
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
He was never good. Dude had 1 and 1/2 decent games his rookie year, and was crowned as this untapped talent that was sure to break out. He can't even make an impact with the WR corps ravaged by injuries.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
He hasn't been able to get separation and Rivers really isn't looking at his outside WR's. His 1st and 2nd reads are either Gates or Royal. And now Ladarius Green has started joining the party as well down the seam giving him a huge mismatch option when they try to cover him with LB's.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
I have Royal, Brown and Allen in one dynasty and Allen in 3 total.
Only Royal seems to be useful so far.
Only Royal seems to be useful so far.
Marauder
Footballguy
Does it seem to anyone else like they are playing him in the wrong position? His strengths are that he runs really precise routes has great hands and makes quick cuts. His weakness is he's small and does not have great deep speed. He seems like he would be more suited for the slot but they're playing him exclusively on the outside.
Not Sleeping
Footballguy
I dropped Vincent Brown for Marlon Brown. V. Brown is dead space on a roster. Malcom Floyd is the SD WR to be targeting soon.
I agree but it's what the Chargers wanted to do. Alexander and Floyd as outside guys with Brown vying for slot duties. It's a case where us fantasy people saw the injuries to the other WR's and assumed it was a bump in value. It's likely he'd be manning the far more productive slot position instead of Royal had these injuries not occurred and been better off statistically for it.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Floyd is out this week - what impact will that have on VBrown ?
I'm starting Avant vs VBrown - good gawd
I'm starting Avant vs VBrown - good gawd
southeastjerome
Footballguy
I surmised that Brown would be running the routes and getting the targets that Royal has.
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Not Sleeping
Footballguy
About the same impact it had last week when Floyd was out and VBrown caught two passes for 11 yards?
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
For those of you thinking that Brown would be in the slot, yea no. He's too slow to play in the slot. The whole point of being in the slot is getting mismatches with slow safeties or ILB's. That's where Royal has made his living beating defenders underneath. It's where he will continue to make his living because Gates opens it up for him and vice versa.
Brown is a possession receiver, he's not overly fast, but he runs good routes (think Boldin, Brown also bulked up over the offseason). It just happens he's the 3rd or 4th read right now. Rivers is getting the ball out in an average of 2.4 seconds I think. Until defenses adjust, he's just not getting the targets.
Brown is a possession receiver, he's not overly fast, but he runs good routes (think Boldin, Brown also bulked up over the offseason). It just happens he's the 3rd or 4th read right now. Rivers is getting the ball out in an average of 2.4 seconds I think. Until defenses adjust, he's just not getting the targets.
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Shanahanigans
Footballguy
5' 11" with a 4.7 forty. Anyone thinking he could be special was deluding themselves based primarily on a good game or two he had as a rookie.
I think the targets will come, and with them, better production. I think Brown has better overall skills than Royal, and he's consistently played more snaps this season than Royal. Royal got the hot start, but I think his ceiling going forward is much lower than Brown's. And with guys down in the what-the-heck flex range, it's generally the ceiling that matters a lot more than the floor.
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I think it was more based on the training camp and preseason he had in his second year. Either way, there was a lot of extrapolation going on -- but that will be the case with any young player.
Shanahanigans
Footballguy
That's why I said 'primarily'. I don't think the coach-speak from training camp would have held as much weight without the rookie stats people could point to when arguing for Brown.
Crazy Tony
Footballguy
Waldman also liked him. Before all this stuff happened and he's been the rookie guru. I'll hang on to him a bit.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Two teams starting him against me this week, prior to this week, nada.
He will have a career game tomorrow.
He will have a career game tomorrow.
SportsGuru311
Footballguy
He should be more involved in the offense going forward. The Chargers need him.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
