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Official CJ Spiller (1 Viewer)
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kingmalaki
Footballguy
He was just dropped in my keeper league. We only have 5 bench spots though.
Warhogs
Footballguy
What kind of value do you think Spiller carries if you were going to hold him for next year in a $150 salary cap league? I'm think about $5 is the maximum I would want to be looking at. I'm assuming there is very little guarantee that he will be a primary ball carrier wherever he is playing next year.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
You think so? I've actually thought there'd be a decent chance that someone would want him to be a primary ball carrier - not necessarily an every down guy, but at least the lead guy in a committee. Still a strong talent and I'd imagine he still has 2-3 years of prime production. I'd have to look at who would be in the market for an RB, where he ends up going would make or break his value.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I agree with your thinking. I guess what I am asking is what type of player would someone be willing to trade and what % of cap would someone feel comfortable investing in Spiller with an eye towards next year. Is he worth more than say 5% of a salary cap? Is he worth 15%? I'm looking for a general feel for what cost teams would be willing to roster him at. To me he feels like a $5 type RB in my $150 salary league.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Totally off the cuff as most of my leagues are snake draft vs auction, but I'd say roughly 20-25% of the typical price of the top RBs for me personally. I still love his talent, there's just no guarantee that he goes somewhere as lead RB in a decent offense that preferably uses him better than how Buffalo used him the last two years.
IMO he can be a strong RB1 in a near ideal situation and can also potentially be flex-worthy in a 40-50% role as well.
IMO he can be a strong RB1 in a near ideal situation and can also potentially be flex-worthy in a 40-50% role as well.
whiskey7
Footballguy
Agreed
This is how I feel about him. In the right situation I can see the same impact a guy like Reid had on Charles occurring with Spiller. (and yes I know Charles had some good fantasy seasons before Reid)
It is possible he ends up in a RBBC but even so I'd still like his value if he gets out of Buffalo as a possible low end RB1 in the right offense. In Buffalo he's a square peg in a round hole, an ill fit for that scheme. It just stands to reason that if a team is going to sign Spiller it's with designs on how to properly use him, which is entirely different than a coaching staff inheriting him and trying to find out to make him fit their scheme.
If you think he sucks I'm not here to try and change anyone's opinion, in fact I wish that's how everyone felt about him. Personally I believe his talent pops and I think despite his age as was alluded he's got 2-3 years left. I've tried to pick him up in a few leagues but just get shot down, typically offering what amounts to about a second round pick, which is why I say I wish everyone thought he sucked.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
There are guys in the league right now scoring well that have a lot less talent than Spiller because their situation is good for them.
I definitely think Spiller is the type of guy where his situation will be by far the largest determining factor of what his value will be.
Right now his value is "top of the line flier"
I definitely think Spiller is the type of guy where his situation will be by far the largest determining factor of what his value will be.
Right now his value is "top of the line flier"
Van Dyman
Footballguy
So, Spiller could start practicing Wednesday Dec. 3rd. Marrone won't say if we'll practice that day.
Could be eligible to play week 16 @OAK.
Could be a boost for BUF D/ST (better chance of kick return TD).
Not sure if does punt returns, but they could use help there (McKelvin went on IR and FJax has been fielding them
).
No indication whether he'll resume his previous RB duty (10-15 carries per week) or how that may affect Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown, Anthony Dixon (Booby Dixon).
Could be eligible to play week 16 @OAK.
Could be a boost for BUF D/ST (better chance of kick return TD).
Not sure if does punt returns, but they could use help there (McKelvin went on IR and FJax has been fielding them
).No indication whether he'll resume his previous RB duty (10-15 carries per week) or how that may affect Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown, Anthony Dixon (Booby Dixon).
OC Zed
Footballguy
For dynasty leagues, I think he's still a hold into the off-season. Wherever he signs in the off-season, it will be with a team that is intent on featuring him... and that could still include Buffalo. Fred Jackson has shown that he can no longer be depended upon being a bell cow RB and the Dixon/Brown combo haven't necessarily set the world on fire either.
If that was a given, he'd be more than a "hold". His stock is about as low as it could be right now, so if you think he'll be featured next year then he's an obvious buy. I think he's a much better RB than Chris Johnson, but if he gets stuck in a similar situation as Chris Johnson then his value will be much less than if he got a feature job somewhere such as Baltimore, Indy, New England, etc.
whiskey7
Footballguy
To be activated off IR
Chances he 1) plays and 2) plays well enough to win some desperate souls some $?
Chances he 1) plays and 2) plays well enough to win some desperate souls some $?
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Ned Ryerson
Footballguy
whiskey7
Footballguy
Yep. There is that angle, too. And (as a FJax owner) I fear that is the more likely outcome...Spiller plays just enough to not be a help himself but takes away enough from Jackson that he's not much help, either. Fingers crossed that Spiller would take more from what is going to Brown/Dixon than what is going to Jackson but it would just be better if he's not in the picture at all, IMO.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I don't know about #1, but I don't see any way #2 would happen. He wasn't playing any better than Jackson/Dixon/Brown are now, before the injury. What rationale would the staff have for throwing a significant play count at him?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Can we change the title of the thread from Spiller is a go to Spiller wants to go?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
An an FJax owner in a championship game, I hope Spiller sits this week.
whiskey7
Footballguy
Agreed. And none, IMO.Grigs Allmoon said:
But, they have re-activated him and if he does play this week, even a handful of touches for Spiller is potentially that many fewer for Jackson. In the 'chip, I don't want one of my starting RBs losing touches. So I have concerns over starting Jackson (not that he doesn't yield some work now, anyway) and would say picking-up and starting Spiller is the most desperate of swings for the fences. So the concern is one guy (who is not a viable starting option) may be added to the mix and render a viable guy even more risky.
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trader jake
Footballguy
He was "better" than Marshawn Lynch to
peration "production outside of Buffalo" is now a Go for CJ. He's no Marshawn Lynch, but he's a productive back that will help fantasy teams next year.Yeah, and I'm not even sure any of those statements were true anyway. Did Fred Jackson play well while Lynch was riding the bench? Yes. Did Jackson get more receptions than Spiller this year? Yes. Did he actually outplay either one? Not really. All three are/were good players, however, I'm not convinced a healthy Fred Jackson was ever better than a healthy Lynch or healthy Spiller. Certainly he was a better blocker than Spiller and perhaps better in short yardage, but I think Spiller is a better pure receiver and obviously has better break away ability. I think Spiller is one of just a few RBs who can not only get open on a sideline go route vs. a CB, but also catch a ball with his hands 40 yards downfield.He was "better" than Marshawn Lynch to
Regardless, Spiller will be one of the more interested free agents this year. If he goes somewhere that he'll be featured 60/40 with a shot at 200 rushes and 40+ receptions, he could have great value next year. If he gets stuck in a 2014 New England type situation (nobody cracks 150 touches) then not so much. Scheme and health will be key.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
The only thing holding Spiller back from being really good is health.
Unfortunately, health has a pretty strong grip on him
Unfortunately, health has a pretty strong grip on him
Spanky24
Footballguy
I can see Spiller being a good fit in both AZ and Phi.
I just want to see him go somewhere he will be appreciated and used in the right ways.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I own spiller in one league. My hope is that he goes to indy or atlanta. His value will skyrocket for that right owner for me to pawn him off on for good value.
As my 4th RB i dont think he has much value to me in terms of my lineup.
I might even sell now in case he goes somewhere crappy
As my 4th RB i dont think he has much value to me in terms of my lineup.
I might even sell now in case he goes somewhere crappy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I can (probably) deal Spiller for a 2016 1st from a team I think will miss the playoffs. I am pretty sure that is a deal I have to take.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I would do the deal, but thinking they will miss the playoffs is far from a certain. A good draft this year and a couple of waiver guys and they are a lock for the playoffs
ghostguy123
Footballguy
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Why would anyone be buying on this guy?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
I've never been impressed with the guy. While he did have 1 good season, he is a walking injury. I've seen a great deal of talk about him going to the Saints this offseason. As a fan, I don't approve. I'd love to see NO sign Vereen before this guy.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If he stays healthy he probably does well. Kinda like if Gordon wised up he would do well. Both not the likeliest to do those things.
- signee Justin Blackmon
- signee Justin Blackmon
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I dealt Spiller for Vereen in dynasty after Spiller's injury this past season. Not sure how that trade will pan out in the upcoming years.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
probably won't really matter, neither is a difference maker.dickey moe said:
