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Official CJ Spiller (4 Viewers)
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theothervcruz
Footballguy
I wish they'd use Spiller in the passing game.
Wilfredo Ledezma
Footballguy
theothervcruz
Footballguy
He also needs to stop alternating RBs so much. These guys can't get into a rhythm.
Jagerbomber
Footballguy
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theothervcruz
Footballguy
Painful watching Tuel in there.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Agree that BUF coaching staff is not maximizing Spiller's touches. I don't understand how they cant design things to get Spiller with any space on screens, pitches, quick passes, something.
And he needs more snaps in better situations.
Starting to dislike Maronne or whatever his name is.
And he needs more snaps in better situations.
Starting to dislike Maronne or whatever his name is.
theothervcruz
Footballguy
Down 13 with less than 2 minutes left..... and it's Jackson out there and not the guy with big play potential in Spiller. Unbelievable.
WilsonTheVolleyball
Footballguy
Spiller got a TD tonight. Find someone who you hoped didn't watch the game and sell, sell, sell.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
FJax is much better at pass protection hence he is always in there on passing downs. You Spiller owners are just delusional. The guy is over-rated .... Keep drafting him in the 1st round
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Spiller owners like myself just have to face the reality that FJax is still a damn good ballplayer and deserves to be in there a lot.
Hard not to root for a guy like Fred even if it's costing my fantasy team. I'm just kicking myself for not handcuffing Spiller with him when I had the chance.
Hard not to root for a guy like Fred even if it's costing my fantasy team. I'm just kicking myself for not handcuffing Spiller with him when I had the chance.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
agree with this...F Jax was dirt cheap in my league where I have Spiller, no clue why I didn't get him.
Really though, I am still not overly bothered by F Jax's usage other than at the goal line - what appealed to me about Spiller was that even if he didn't get "run til he threw up", we had already seen him put up top ten numbers on ~250 touches. He is getting 20+ touches every game he doesn't get hurt, it's the efficiency that is ruining it.
I noticed them running read option a couple times last night - does Manuel ever keep when they run that? I don't recall him keeping it any last night. It's not gonna help Spiller any if Manuel never runs.
Ned Ryerson
Footballguy
Watching that game, I think spiller might be chris Johnson, but with a smaller workload.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
BaBastage
Footballguy
Same here. I rolled with McGahee over Jackson and Spiller.
Jackson would have been the optimal start, but at least I got 13 out of McGahee. Jackson and / or Spiller could have equally ended up with nothing. The whole thing was a crapshoot without hindsight.
One thing from Watching McGahee... he sure looks slow and is headed back to the wire now that Spiller / Jackson have shown themselves to be mostly healthy.
theothervcruz
Footballguy
If that were their intention, then why have Fred Jackson out there? Last I checked, he was banged up too. If they wanted to throw in the towel, just have Choice out there and call it a day. That they had Jackson out there at least shows they wanted to try and if they wanted to try, then the big play ability of Spiller made far more sense in that scenario.
Tong Po
Footballguy
My guess is that Spiller was gimpy after that long TD run and maybe the coach thought it was too risky to put him out there in pass protection with the young 2nd string QB out there trying to mount a comeback. Hopefully the extra couple days will help him heal up and back on track for 20 touches a game. Still a lot of football to be played and I was actually encouraged in what I saw during that TD run. The dude is obviously a special talent to rip that run off with a bad ankle... and hopefully the coach will figure out how to use him... sooner rather than later.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
I unloaded Spiller right before last night's game, packaged him, Julius Thomas and Miles Austin for Vick, Jordy Nelson and Garrett Graham (I also have Jimmy). It is a TD-heavy league and needed QB help as Russell Wilson had been a dud.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
I don't like Spiller as much as most but think you got hosed bad.Baloney Sandwich said:
skinsrule05
Footballguy
This is the perfect time to trade Jackson. He had a good game. He had more carries then spiller and if people don't look into it they won't realize it was because spiller wasn't 100%. Also, he hasn't played a full season the last two years. That isn't something that usually corrects itself when you are a 32 year old RB. So it is only a matter of time before he goes down.
I am fully shopping him now to see what I can get. Also the turnover in QB has me worried that they could go back to the spiller dump offs that worked so well last year.
I am fully shopping him now to see what I can get. Also the turnover in QB has me worried that they could go back to the spiller dump offs that worked so well last year.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Perhaps but I upgraded myself at two positions (QB&WR) while making myself weaker at one (RB). It comes down to Vick staying healthy and being productive. Perhaps Spilker decides to go off but unless Jackson gets hurt I don't see the TDs coming to him and in my league that is all that really matters. Thomas is a good player but I'm not starting him over Jimmy Graham.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Benched him for Wilson and Edelman. Glad to see he broke a lot one off but he really needs to get healthy before Im comfortable putting him back in my lineup.
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skinsrule05
Footballguy
1) Besides Vick staying healthy you need to worry about him getting benched. His turnovers and slow decision times are starting the grumbling in philly already.
2) "Unless Jackson gets hurt", take a look at what happened the last two years.
I agree I don't like this trade.
ragnarok628
Footballguy
started Spiller AND FJax.... AND cleveleand DST. had no right to expect what i got (which is a cool 50pt lead going into the weekend) but HALLELUJAH!
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Manuel out 6 weeks, loving my trade now
dboysrock94
Footballguy
Anyone on think Tuel can help Cj in ppr?
JustinHawkins
Footballguy
Unloaded Spiller and Stafford for Morris, Newton, and a 2nd in a PPR dynasty league before the game. Still hope and believe Spiller will bounce back but trust Morris and Cam more.
OC Zed
Footballguy
Probably not - but with one big caveat: the Bills have been using Spiller and Jackson differently. Spiller has been getting pretty much all of the read-option plays which have not worked at all for a couple reasons - Manuel doesn't like running to keep defenses honest and the blocking has been subpar. Now that Manuel is injured, I bet that they will stop calling the read-option and thereby giving Spiller better running plays to work from.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Yeah, I didn't get to see the game but I saw people saying he looked great in game, but was clearly hobbled on the sideline, etc?
I am with you - if he didn't get better with 10 days off I am not sure he gets back to 100% (as 100% as an NFL RB is in season) any time soon.
Yeah I'm just rolling him out there with very low expectations. It sucks that you can't even count on your first round pick for solid flex production necessarily but it is what it is. Apparntly he only played 19 snaps yesterday so we were lucky to get the production we did. I do wish he would just rest a week or two, but it doesn't look like that will happen.
wormburner
Footballguy
I didn't get to see the game. The SportsCenter highlights appeared to show most/all of his running plays designed for between the tackles. Also, only two catches (on how many targets?) for 11 yards. Reminds me of how Turner misused Sproles in San Diego. How much of Spiller's woes this year are due to poor game planning?
danielmclark
Footballguy
A lot. I lay 75% of Spiller's slump on the poor game planning and play calling. It's been atrocious.
smapdi
Footballguy
^ agreed
They have not put him in a position to succeed. At least with the Manuel injury, they will stop the bogus "read option esqe" handoffs to him from shotgun right into the LG. I don't know how many times that okay needs to be shutdown for them to cut it out.
The majority of Spiller's problems have been on the play calling. He was at his deadliest in the screen game last year & I think they've run a grand total of one so far.
With the QB situation up in the air, I think the staff will reevaluate and goes back to what works. Spiller is still one of the most talented backs in the league.. Just look at his long TD against CLE while he was hobbled by injury.
Im desperately trying to make a move for him. Present owners will be frustrated with their 1st round pick by now & I think this a great opportunity to buy low. I'm trying my damndest to get him in my money league.
They have not put him in a position to succeed. At least with the Manuel injury, they will stop the bogus "read option esqe" handoffs to him from shotgun right into the LG. I don't know how many times that okay needs to be shutdown for them to cut it out.
The majority of Spiller's problems have been on the play calling. He was at his deadliest in the screen game last year & I think they've run a grand total of one so far.
With the QB situation up in the air, I think the staff will reevaluate and goes back to what works. Spiller is still one of the most talented backs in the league.. Just look at his long TD against CLE while he was hobbled by injury.
Im desperately trying to make a move for him. Present owners will be frustrated with their 1st round pick by now & I think this a great opportunity to buy low. I'm trying my damndest to get him in my money league.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Interested to see where he is going in August.
Warpig
Footballguy
I won't be touching him unless it is late and he is a bargain. He is one of the overhyped guys that never pans out since Fred Jackson is the prettiest girl in that backfield. He's basically a gimmick guy that now has injury issues. Gonna be a nasty 3 way with Fred Jackson getting about 50% of touches, Spiller with 40%, and maybe Dixon with 10%. I'll let the next guy over pay.
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Avoid at your own peril, as Spiller will most certainly have a nice bounce back year. I'm not worried at all about FJax, and Dixon is nothing more than a short yardage back. A healthy Spiller will carve out a nice role in that O, and I'm predicting he vaults back into the top 10. I fully expect his ADP to creep higher and higher as we get closer to the actual season.
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