Keenum went to UH and Major is likely a Coog. That is probably the source of his optimism.Any specific reason? Keenum have a stronger arm, more accurate, etc? Don't know much about him.
See Chase Daniels, Joey Harrington, David Carr, and just about every Texas Tech QB in recent memory.He put up big numbers in college because of the system. Usually does not translate well to the NFL.
I'll let 3rd sources do the talking for me, but here you go.Other than his height, I've still had trouble finding somebody to explain to me what Keenum's weaknesses are. He's mobile, has a laser, and is accurate as hell.
People use his collegiate system as way too unfair of a strike against him.
solid reasoning there, guy.....from Houston and NYC but could give a f about UH or the Cougs. Case gives you upside. Looked great in camp and has the testicular fortitude that Schaubie lacks. His arm is precise, stronger post surgery and the team loves him. Could be the next BradyKeenum went to UH and Major is likely a Coog. That is probably the source of his optimism.Any specific reason? Keenum have a stronger arm, more accurate, etc? Don't know much about him.
all good points Greg. I'm just stashing him in keeper/dynasty leagues and wanted to let my Shark Pool contingent his potential value long term. It's still a gamble but long shots normally are.Keenum looked about as good as Yates did in the preseason. The Texans had the #1 in offense in the preseason in large part because of how well those two played while alternating 2nd and 3rd string.
Though preseason is preseason and we have to take that for what it's worth, but they played equal against basically the same competition. But we can at least say definitively that Kubiak and Rick Smith saw enough from Keenum that though they prefer to only have 2 QBs on the active roster, they kept Keenum rather than trying to practice squad him and risk losing him to another team.
Kubiak picked Yates to be the #2 however. He obviously has more actual NFL game experience, and since Keenum and Yates were so even in preseason, I think that's entirely what it made sense to expect there.
Part of the preseason commentary was that Keenum had the leadership factor that you look for in a QB, more than Schaub or Yates. Does that mean anything? Who can say... it sure meant something with Russell Wilson. Vince Young, not so much. It definitely doesn't hurt Keenum's chances though.
I'd say deep dynasty leagues, especially 2 QB leagues, he's worth a stash based on potential and Schaub's current situation. I don't expect him to see the field though barring injuries ahead of him. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ended up better than Yates, though it isn't something I'd predict with confidence either. We haven't seen Keenum against regular defeness that are not preseason vanilla. And though we've seen Yates against real NFL defenses, most of his starts the offense was kept pretty limited, and he didn't exactly fare well against the Ravens. A definite edge to evaluating Yates, but we don't know where he's at now with 2 years of experience in practices.
A lot of question marks for both. And given Kubiak's penchant for sticking with what he's familiar and comfortable with, if anyone goes in I'd heavily expect it to be Yates. Thus my not expecting to see Keenum unless there are injuries, so I'd consider him a fairly long shot in the short term.
That long distance dedication of "Start Me Up" must have worked.Announced as starter.
Never underestimate the heart of a championI'd be more excited if he wasn't going up against the Chiefs defense in Arrowhead for his first ever NFL game.
I'd be worried if Kubiak opens up the playbook. Case has that chutzpah. I have him stashed in all my keeper/dynastys. He killed it in camp/preseason. And they only reason he wasn't the #2 is b/c of Kubiak's loyal to a fault approach to handling personell.This move actually worries me more than if they started Yates or Schaub.
A lot of it is just instinct and what I see being a pseudo scout. His arm is a helluvalot stronger than Schaub's. Remember he was hurt his senior year at UH. His arm has healed wonderfully and stronger than ever. Most of the scouting on him is done pre injury UH before he really developed. Just my 2 pence. Worthy gamble in dynasty/keeper leagues and brings hope to Texans fans.I know rotoworld is often full of bs, but they describe Keenum as having a "third stringers arm" and not having "NFL size or arm strength". I find it interesting to see such contradicting information here. I mean, some are saying he has a laser for an arm. I wouldn't be as surprised if people were saying he has a decent or even good arm, but to go from "3rd stringer arm" to laser arm seems like quite the disparity.
Major, sell me on rotoworld being wrong, you're doing a pretty good job so far.
It might be a good thing in PPR for Foster and/or Tate, considering how younger QBs tend to like dump offs more.How does this affect AJ/Hopkins/Foster/Tate going forward?
Have a trade offer out for AJ, thinking about taking it back because man, this can't be good short term.
Kubiak is trying to save his job. Schaub won't do that. You fantasy guys with your stats distort reality. Romo and Schaub serviceable fantasy/stat guys but that's about it.Wonder if Schaub is done or will he get his job back when healthy. I guess we will know after Sunday.
Yes. Until this season, they were both the same QB - softer than wet cake with a pony tail for a heart. Schaub has regressed, Romo still chokes. Ain't a damn ting changed, son.Did you just put Romo and Schaub in the same sentence??
I think this is a tough situation to read - having Keenum make his first start on the road against a tough defensive team, is almost setting him up to fail.Wonder if Schaub is done or will he get his job back when healthy. I guess we will know after Sunday.
If Keenum plays well this week, the job is his.I think this is a tough situation to read - having Keenum make his first start on the road againstWonder if Schaub is done or will he get his job back when healthy. I guess we will know after Sunday.a toughthe best defensive team in the NFL, is almost setting him up to fail.
If Keenum plays well, he could Tebow himself into the starting gig the rest of the year. If he struggles, as expected, I would think Schaub gets his job back.
For the season?I'd be worried if Kubiak opens up the playbook. Case has that chutzpah. I have him stashed in all my keeper/dynastys. He killed it in camp/preseason. And they only reason he wasn't the #2 is b/c of Kubiak's loyal to a fault approach to handling personell.This move actually worries me more than if they started Yates or Schaub.
Major will go on the record saying 280 yds passing, 32 Rushing and 3 TDs.
[SIZE=medium]All of your credibility just flew out the window. [/SIZE]I'd be worried if Kubiak opens up the playbook. Case has that chutzpah. I have him stashed in all my keeper/dynastys. He killed it in camp/preseason. And they only reason he wasn't the #2 is b/c of Kubiak's loyal to a fault approach to handling personell.This move actually worries me more than if they started Yates or Schaub.
Major will go on the record saying 280 yds passing, 32 Rushing and 3 TDs.
Yeah, Kubiak loyal to a fault and could be a pressure/I told you he wasn't that good move to prove us Schaub haters wrong. That being said, I think HOU can upset the Chiefs w/ the rook. I'm going to be betting on this game with the high spread....Is Keenum being setup to fail? Playing the #1 defense in their home turf is not how you want your rookie QB to start his first NFL game. Maybe the coaching staff is unhappy with the fans reaction to Schaub and want to shut them up for good.
I do own Keenum and think this is not the ideal start for him. I hope I am wrong.
You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).
Good luck kid.
LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).
Good luck kid.
this guy is like Rudy mixed with Brady. Never underestimate the heart of a champion #htownLOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).
Good luck kid.
The season-ending injury his senior year was to his ACL.A lot of it is just instinct and what I see being a pseudo scout. His arm is a helluvalot stronger than Schaub's. Remember he was hurt his senior year at UH. His arm has healed wonderfully and stronger than ever. Most of the scouting on him is done pre injury UH before he really developed. Just my 2 pence. Worthy gamble in dynasty/keeper leagues and brings hope to Texans fans.