Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
This is the 3rd or 4th time I read this today. If he's better than Stanton why has Stanton been starting?
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Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah I love Fitz (traded for him then Palmer got injured that week) the matchup is tasty and Fitz is the passing game (I would argue he is the entire offense) but...Blaine Gabbert? :XThis is the 3rd or 4th time I read this today. If he's better than Stanton why has Stanton been starting?
He's tentatively on my bench.
kutta
Footballguy
Arians has a serious man-crush on Stanton for some reason. It blows my mind that every year the cards still do nothing about their backup/future QB situation. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Gabbert is better than Stanton.This is the 3rd or 4th time I read this today. If he's better than Stanton why has Stanton been starting?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This isn't a compliment, but Gabbert is probably the best 3rd string QB in the league. He's definitely better at the short stuff though, Fitz could get peppered for short gains.
Agreed.
Last week it was Drew Stanton vs. SEA defense on TNF.
That worked out just fine.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Congratulations, Larry. Keep moving up the list. Incredible player and person. One of my favorites of all time.
grateful zed
Footballguy
he plays one more year he will be
#2 all time in yards behind jerry.
#2 all time in yards behind jerry.
Whenever I watch the Cardinals, no matter how many targets Fitz gets, I always go away thinking they should have thrown him the ball more. He's just that good.
He got 10 targets yesterday and had 9 catches. If I was Ariens, I would have told Gabbert he would be benched if Fitz didn't have 15 targets minimum. I would rather target a well covered Fitz than an open John Brown with a guy like Gabbert or Stanton at QB. Fitz catches 9 of 10 while the other 3 WRs (Brown, Brown, Nelson) are 5 of 12. Even with Palmer in there, they don't throw enough to Fitz. Long stretches of games he doesn't see the ball while the offense bogs down. Just don't get it.
He got 10 targets yesterday and had 9 catches. If I was Ariens, I would have told Gabbert he would be benched if Fitz didn't have 15 targets minimum. I would rather target a well covered Fitz than an open John Brown with a guy like Gabbert or Stanton at QB. Fitz catches 9 of 10 while the other 3 WRs (Brown, Brown, Nelson) are 5 of 12. Even with Palmer in there, they don't throw enough to Fitz. Long stretches of games he doesn't see the ball while the offense bogs down. Just don't get it.
need2know
Footballguy
Elevencents
Footballguy
I won’t bench Fitz even if Manziel is throwing to him and they are playing the 85 Bears.
Reminds of the old Bears sketches on SNL. OK, let's say you're playing in a monsoon, you have Peterman at QB, the Seattle o-line (with Chazz Green replacing Duane Brown), the '85 Bears are allowed to sub in Earl Thomas and Deion, and the other defenders all have AR-15s aimed at Fitz's head.
(Thinks)
"Da Fitz!"
Cenobite
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
i tried benching fitz once.
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:(
Chaka
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
fair enough. still opens things up a bit more and makes it more likely they can move the ball.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Correct it shifts the defensive back rotation somewhat and improves the match ups across the board because of it. Without Ramsey Bouye becomes their best corner and easier to call plays that avoid him now, whereas before teams would be picking their poison more between him and Ramsey.Tool said:
Its not like Fitzgerald is exclusively a slot WR anyways, although that may be where he is lining up most of the time.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Rams slot CB dinged, no ADP possibly. Starting for me over Watkins
Elevencents
Footballguy
If all kids coming up to the NFL would just follow his lead. Shuts his mouth and gets the job done. One of my favorite all time players.
bigupsetter
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
He's an auto-start every week. Doesn't matter who is throwing to him or who is covering him. He is the passing game in Arizona and Arians has schemed incredibly well to give him frequent, high percentage opportunities. He has been mostly unstoppable this year.
Very few guys I would start over him.
Very few guys I would start over him.
BroncosFan07
Footballguy
What do we make of Fitz at this point for 2018?
Will the coaching change affect him?
Is Sam Bradford good or bad for him? (I know Sam Bradford is not good, but Fitz put up great numbers with Carson Palmer at QB...basically is Bradford a wash compared to Carson?)
Will the coaching change affect him?
Is Sam Bradford good or bad for him? (I know Sam Bradford is not good, but Fitz put up great numbers with Carson Palmer at QB...basically is Bradford a wash compared to Carson?)
Bradford will help him, super accurate, perfect for Fitz. Problem is Mike Glennon will prob be his QB for at least half the season.
need2know
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Bradford is a good QB, its not his talent that is the problem, its his paper knees
Chaka
Footballguy
I haven't seen anything from Bradford to suggest he is anything other than eminently average.
Mark Football
Footballguy
Fitz owners, what would it take for you to move this guy in dynasty(ppr)? I've made a few fair offers I think in a few leagues that have all been rejected with no counters.
Chaka
Footballguy
Mark Football
Footballguy
I've tried to pair a young guy with potential and a 19 second rounder. Guys like Goodwin, Doctson, Corey Coleman, D. Parker.
Chaka
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I guess it depends on what kind of average that you mean.
Bradford can make some great throws at times. Couldn't have thrown it any better than that, and some difficult throws at times too.
He is pretty smart as well. Good at reading coverage. He can get the ball out quicker because of generally good pre snap reads.He does check down too much and isn't aggressive enough with giving covered receivers a chance to make a play on the ball. This isn't that bad if the overall offensive is good and has players who are good at generating YAC but it was a major complaint of Vikings fans in 2016 when the offensive line was soooo bad of course Bradford is trying to get the ball out right away and that usually means a shorter read.
I suppose people consider Eli Manning a bunch of other QBs average. The thing about Manning and Bradford though is when they are on they are playing pretty much perfect football. They can make some great throws that some QB in the league can't.
Mark Football
Footballguy
Looking to aquire. Do I need to give more? His trade value ranking on most sites is pretty low, including on this site. I would guess that's because there is no certainty he plays another year after this one.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I suppose you could use this as justification to lowball like crazy.
Not sure the Fitzgerald owner will want to move him anyways. You would have to offer me something really good to pry him away from my team.
He is going to be 35 years old this August. A year when historically most WR have a steep decline. So use that to talk him down too.
Fitzgerald passed Randy Moss in career receiving yards last season. Yeah Randy Moss. He will pass Terrell Owens this season and be 2nd all time in receiving yards
ZWK
Footballguy
I have also been going after Fitz, but at that price I'd let you have him.
Maybe you should try trading for Edelman instead.
