FUBAR
Footballguy
Might be wrong to do so, but I generally downgrade guys who don't take these types of opportunities and risks. At least it's a reason to wonder how much they care about improving.
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QB Brett Hundley, IND (1 Viewer)
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cstu
Footballguy
Petty, Mannion, and Grayson already getting negative reviews. Hundley can be the #3 QB taken by doing nothing.
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I've been pretty critical of Hundley, but I think the Senior Bowl thing is being blown out of proportion. He was very dinged up at the end of the season, which is supposedly why he turned down the invite. He's not right physically at the moment.
Regardless, while he had some moments where he found second, third and fourth options, he's still a guy who needs to learn to see the field and move to space to pass rather than scramble.
Regardless, while he had some moments where he found second, third and fourth options, he's still a guy who needs to learn to see the field and move to space to pass rather than scramble.
Faust
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Faust
MVP
Brett Hundley out to prove this QB draft class is better than perceived:
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/19/brett-hundley-2015-nfl-combine-quarterbacks-jameis-winston-marcus-mariota
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/19/brett-hundley-2015-nfl-combine-quarterbacks-jameis-winston-marcus-mariota
FUBAR
Footballguy
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
cstu
Footballguy
Not even in the 2nd?
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
lod01
Footballguy
He's capable of dropping back, staring down his primary WR, seeing that he is not wide open, he can take off and run. Exactly what the bottomfeeder franchises are looking for.
lod01
Footballguy
Only as a backup. More likely he is gone is 3-5 years after riding the bench when the last team finally says 'why are we paying this guy'?.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Day 3 project.Not even in the 2nd?
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
cstu
Footballguy
He does have those flaws but don't think he's nearly as bad as you're making him out to be. He was better in college than Tannehill and look how he developed (granted not all the way there yet but he's at least a decent QB now).
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I don't think this assessment is accurate. Hundley does have issues with dropping his eyes too often when he scrambles, but you can clearly see him go through his reads. He navigates pressure in the pocket pretty well, is willing to stand in and throw with guys in his face/around him, and did a pretty good job resetting his feet to throw when under pressure. His problem, is that once he does take off running, he stops looking downfield more often than not.But what's not being accounts for, is that Hundley was blitzed on 41% of his drop backs. That's way higher than any of the other top guys. UCLA's offensive line sucked, and Hundley didn't have much choice but to run a lot of the time. Put Mariota or Winston under that kind of pressure and I bet their performance looks different.
And the talent around Hundley sucked. In the Virginia game, his WRs dropped 7 passes. One of them wasn't well placed, but the other 6 should have been easy catches.
I think he is more of a 2nd round pick than a 1st, but he has enough upside to warrant a 2nd round pick.
The idea that he has problems with pocket presence is nonsense. There was constant pressure on him and he did a very good job sliding away from pressure. His pocket presence is much better than Mariota's and as good as Winston's. Hundley slides away from pressure and does a great job stepping up to avoid pressure when his center or guards weren't getting shoved right into his face.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Fun.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Maybe late 2nd, but not 2.01Not even in the 2nd?
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
I'd rather they take a late round flier on Sean Mannion, Chris Bonner or Taylor Heinicke while giving Mett another year.
cstu
Footballguy
Hundley has much more upside than those guys. I looked at the progression he's made all three years and if he can keep working to fix his flaws he can be a good QB in the NFL. And despite those flaws he put up impressive numbers - career 67.6% completion and 8.0 YPA, averaged 700 yards rushing, and brought his INT's down to 5 last year.Maybe late 2nd, but not 2.01Not even in the 2nd?
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
I'd rather they take a late round flier on Sean Mannion, Chris Bonner or Taylor Heinicke while giving Mett another year.
He's very similar to Kaepernick coming out and like Kaepernick he's worth an early 2nd based on his potential.
MAC_32
Footballguy
He has more upside, but it'll never be realized until he learns how to manage a collapsing pocket without going into panic mode.Hundley has much more upside than those guys. I looked at the progression he's made all three years and if he can keep working to fix his flaws he can be a good QB in the NFL. And despite those flaws he put up impressive numbers - career 67.6% completion and 8.0 YPA, averaged 700 yards rushing, and brought his INT's down to 5 last year.Maybe late 2nd, but not 2.01Not even in the 2nd?
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
I'd rather they take a late round flier on Sean Mannion, Chris Bonner or Taylor Heinicke while giving Mett another year.
He's very similar to Kaepernick coming out and like Kaepernick he's worth an early 2nd based on his potential.
FUBAR
Footballguy
if you say so. But I wouldn't take him over a good interior OL, corner, or pass rusher.Hundley has much more upside than those guys. I looked at the progression he's made all three years and if he can keep working to fix his flaws he can be a good QB in the NFL. And despite those flaws he put up impressive numbers - career 67.6% completion and 8.0 YPA, averaged 700 yards rushing, and brought his INT's down to 5 last year.Maybe late 2nd, but not 2.01Not even in the 2nd?
Honestly, if the Bills drafted him he might win a few games. But I'm hoping the Titans stay away.
I'd rather they take a late round flier on Sean Mannion, Chris Bonner or Taylor Heinicke while giving Mett another year.
He's very similar to Kaepernick coming out and like Kaepernick he's worth an early 2nd based on his potential.
Don't forget opportunity cost. I'll take Erving/Matias/Kouandijo and one of the QBs I listed over Hundley and a 6th round guard.
Guessing he'd go somewhere between 49-52, KC, Buffalo, Houston or Philly would be alright landing spots if those teams like his potential. He's not a top 40 player.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
okay and I don't expect him to be a good NFL QB.
However, ~15% of the current NFL starters were taken after pick 40 including three of the league's biggest stars and 100% of those starting Super Bowl XLIX
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